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Magistrate Doogan snowed under with pernicious drink drivers

By johnboy - 23 April 2009 42

The Canberra Times (briefly) explains Magistrate Maria Doogan’s dismay at having to deal with 35 drink drivers yesterday (32 men, three women).

One wonders if the accused got together for a party afterwards?

Apparently this indicated “the Canberra community was failing to get the drink-driving message”.

Personally I think improved enforcement and detection’s got something to do with it, keep taking licences away and we’ll probably figure it out.

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Magistrate Doogan snowed under with pernicious drink drivers
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FC 9:22 am
23 Apr 09
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More and more people I know are losing their licenses for drink driving, and seem to be SLOWLY getting the message. Unfortunatly it took for them to suffer the consequences to begin to learn. What I had trouble getting was that these people (who led fairly responsibly lives for the most part) didn’t think much of driving home drunk.

when I used to drink I guess my motivation was fairly strong.
Drink drive= loose my licence= loose my job= unable to pay mortgage= loose my house = don’t drink drive.

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Tooks 9:26 am
23 Apr 09
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Wonder how many of those 35 were repeat offenders. Maybe if magistrates started handing out tough sentences, then people would be less inclined to take the risk of drink driving.

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Blingerific 9:54 am
23 Apr 09
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Pity losing your license doesn’t mean you loose your license. Suspended for a period of time then party on is all it means. Once you lose the privilege you should begin at the begining, maybe applying for their L’s and having to go through all the hassle again would make these people think *before* they commit a crime?

Then again, they’re Canberra drivers. So probably not…

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chewy14 9:58 am
23 Apr 09
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Maybe if the excuse of “I have an unblemished driving record for 30 years” didn’t allow older offenders to get off with a slap on the wrist, something might change.
You can’t go into court and say “look i haven’t murdered anyone in 30 years, i should be let off.” Well maybe anywhere other than Canberra that is.

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Deckard 10:01 am
23 Apr 09
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The ones you have to worry about are the ones that don’t care that they’ve lost their licence and are back in the car the next day.

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VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 10:02 am
23 Apr 09
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It’s simple really. If we gave people a big fine and a slap the first time, then took their license away for 2 years the second time (no exceptions), people would take it a bit more seriously.

Catch them driving without a license the first time and it’s a big fine and a slap again. Second time, start applying custodial sentences.

Be interesting to try it and see what happens. I’m also surprised at people who think drink driving is ok. Personally, getting caught isn’t what scares me – having to live with knowing I killed someone would be enough.

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G-Fresh 10:25 am
23 Apr 09
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I reckon this’ll all blow over.

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Pommy bastard 10:44 am
23 Apr 09
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Deckard said :

The ones you have to worry about are the ones that don’t care that they’ve lost their licence and are back in the car the next day.

A mandatory custodial sentence would start addressing that.

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BerraBoy68 10:55 am
23 Apr 09
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I went DUI (.062) six years ago and it is an expereince I will never repeat. While I was in an a nasty accident on the way home (that wrote off two cars, including mine and Porsche, and saw my wife, child and the driver of teh other car taken to hospital in an Ambulance) the police advised the accident was caused by the other driver not me. However, i asked to be btreath tested and showed a red light.

The resulting day in court was an eye-opener and was the icing on the cake as far as bad experiences go. I was the only that person that day to get off without loss of points, conviction, or even a fine but it taught me a very, very big lesson. Oh, and there would have been about 20 people being seen for DUI that day as well.

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rottweiler 11:28 am
23 Apr 09
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My partner is one week off getting his lic back after it was suspened for 7 months for DUI(.059), as a labourer he works for himself and with no work permit granted this was almost the end of his bussiness and our main income so i’ve had to drive him to and from work every day this has been a major stress on our family, his work and our life in general. losing his right to drive has hurt him emotionly and in the hippocket and will not be repeated again.

BUT what got me was the day we were in court a 20yr kid before him had DUI(.065)and with that also failed to stop for police, ran a red light,then mounted a gutter then fled the tarago he was driving to be chased over a fence where police finally captured him. He’s excuse he was scared he’d get in trouble from his parents and was very sorry. he walked out of court with 4months and was granted a work permit allowing him to drive between 6am and 7pm. What lesson did this kid learn it’s ok to drink drive ok to run red lights and run from the police.

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chewy14 11:32 am
23 Apr 09
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rottweiler said :

My partner is one week off getting his lic back after it was suspened for 7 months for DUI(.059), as a labourer he works for himself and with no work permit granted this was almost the end of his bussiness and our main income so i’ve had to drive him to and from work every day this has been a major stress on our family, his work and our life in general. losing his right to drive has hurt him emotionly and in the hippocket and will not be repeated again.

BUT what got me was the day we were in court a 20yr kid before him had DUI(.065)and with that also failed to stop for police, ran a red light,then mounted a gutter then fled the tarago he was driving to be chased over a fence where police finally captured him. He’s excuse he was scared he’d get in trouble from his parents and was very sorry. he walked out of court with 4months and was granted a work permit allowing him to drive between 6am and 7pm. What lesson did this kid learn it’s ok to drink drive ok to run red lights and run from the police.

Can’t be the full story.

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BerraBoy68 11:36 am
23 Apr 09
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@Rottweiler – sounds a bit odd to me. What circumstance are there behind your husband losing his licence for .059? The penalty seem very excessive for a low end reading which they seem to take into account when sentencing, at least they did in my case.

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Spectra 11:38 am
23 Apr 09
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Spectra said :

More and more people I know are losing their licenses for drink driving, and seem to be SLOWLY getting the message. Unfortunatly it took for them to suffer the consequences to begin to learn.

I would suggest that losing your license is one of the more preferable consequences of drink driving…

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dvaey 11:51 am
23 Apr 09
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chewy14 said :

Can’t be the full story.

She must have neglected to say her partner couldnt afford a lawyer as good as the kid who got off.

On a side note, a mate of mine used to smoke dope on a semi-regular basis partly because he was under 18 and didnt want to drink. He attempted going for a job which required he be drug tested, so he subsequently gave up the grass. The unfortunate side-effect to this was that he slowly took up drinking instead, as he now had spare time and money, was now over 18, and could drink in confidence knowing it wouldnt affect his job drug test. Within about a month of this, he was caught DUI (0.020 on Ps) and was charged. We had been out for the evening, he hadnt driven for 4 hours after 2 drinks, to be safe, then finally went home and got nicked on the way home.

He learnt his lesson the hard way, just because alcohol is legal and ‘safe’, it cost him his chances at the job anyway. He quit drinking, went back to smoking, and is now leading a much happier life without fear of ever losing his license for DUI again.

(Having said this story, within weeks of swapping the weed for the drink, he was involved in a few punchups in civic too, thus making the decision even easier).

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FC 11:54 am
23 Apr 09
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Or how about not regularly using any mind altering substance.
Problem solved (except for whatever the underlying need to use is anyway!)

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