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Making life harder for paedos

By johnboy - 16 February 2012 34

Simon Corbell has announced he’s legislating today for more court powers when dealing with child sex offenders:

“Under these tough new measures, the bill proposes to increase maximum penalties, tighten reporting requirements and introduce new prohibition orders that will limit circumstances in which registered child sex offenders can be near children,” Mr Corbell said.

“Courts will have the power to ban offenders from being within a certain distance of a school or child care centre, engaging in some types of employment, or taking photographs of children.

“ACT Policing will be able to intervene in circumstances where there is evidence that the registered offender poses a risk to a child or children through breaching of this order without a reasonable excuse.”

The Magistrates Court will decide what behaviour will be prohibited after considering the behaviour and circumstances of the registered offender’s conduct.

“This intervention is aimed at protecting those children identified as at risk, and at addressing the rates of reoffending child sex offenders,” he said.

Mr Corbell announced that these amendments will also require registered offenders to report electronic communication identifiers not previously required, including email addresses and chat room usernames.

Penalties for offences are also being increased.

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Making life harder for paedos
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Lookout Smithers 2:12 pm
16 Feb 12
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The_TaxMan said :

Lookout Smithers said :

I would be willing to assume life might be already hard for perpetrators and victims. One versus the other in observation is not helpful for anyone.

Sorry but the fact that perpetrators are allowed to keep breathing is enough to make me ill. So ‘hard for perpetrators” who gives a rats arse about the perpetrators :(

Well if it matters that much to you then we will assume that you are hard at work looking for better ways to deal with this very confronting issue. I could not care less about perpetrators or victims myself. But I have no bright ideas on how to best tackle the issue. So I will just comment on the article the way it is written, rather than shout out on how much I pretend to give a shit.

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qbngeek 2:53 pm
16 Feb 12
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Proboscus said :

Alderney said :

Last Saturday, as I accompanied my 3 year old boy to gymnastics, it did cross my mind that if I took out the iphone to take a pics that I might be viewed with suspicion by the many other parents.

I therefore have no pics of my boy doing his first gym.

Not saying I don’t agree that our children deserve the best protection the State can offer from rock spiders, but in my situation is this what the world has come to?

As a parent I would have issues if you took photos of my children without my permission. I can’t understand why you wouldn’t take photos of your own child?

If it is a case of other kids getting in the shots then too bad. I have always taken pics of my son at soccer adn I am not subtle about it with a DSLR and nice big lens. Never had anyone say ‘boo’ about it. There is no law to stop you from taking pictures of people, kids included, in public. If you are tking pics of your own kid and their kids are in the shot just tell them where they can jump.

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colourful sydney rac 3:05 pm
16 Feb 12
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Lookout Smithers said :

The_TaxMan said :

Lookout Smithers said :

I would be willing to assume life might be already hard for perpetrators and victims. One versus the other in observation is not helpful for anyone.

Sorry but the fact that perpetrators are allowed to keep breathing is enough to make me ill. So ‘hard for perpetrators” who gives a rats arse about the perpetrators :(

Well if it matters that much to you then we will assume that you are hard at work looking for better ways to deal with this very confronting issue. I could not care less about perpetrators or victims myself. But I have no bright ideas on how to best tackle the issue. So I will just comment on the article the way it is written, rather than shout out on how much I pretend to give a shit.

You ‘could not care less’ about children who are victims of sexual abuse? You are not fit to be a member of our society.

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Deref 3:06 pm
16 Feb 12
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Skidd Marx said :

I, like Simon Corbell think we should blindly follow the US model of law-enforcement. After all it’s worked so well for them.

+1

Also, it saves us having to think about things that might actually work.

This could cause a lot of problems for the Catholic Church, of course.

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SnapperJack 4:10 pm
16 Feb 12
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Uh, oh. Looks like I’ll have to lock up all those Polaroids I took of myself in the nude when I was a young teenager in the 1970s. My cousin – a professional photographer – who took pics of his newly born son without clothes on back then would also be under the gun. And its a good thing I grew up in the 1970s before all this hysteria about pedophilia started. All those sex partners in their 20s and 30s I had as a teenager would

qbngeek said :

Proboscus said :

Alderney said :

Last Saturday, as I accompanied my 3 year old boy to gymnastics, it did cross my mind that if I took out the iphone to take a pics that I might be viewed with suspicion by the many other parents.

I therefore have no pics of my boy doing his first gym.

Not saying I don’t agree that our children deserve the best protection the State can offer from rock spiders, but in my situation is this what the world has come to?

As a parent I would have issues if you took photos of my children without my permission. I can’t understand why you wouldn’t take photos of your own child?

If it is a case of other kids getting in the shots then too bad. I have always taken pics of my son at soccer adn I am not subtle about it with a DSLR and nice big lens. Never had anyone say ‘boo’ about it. There is no law to stop you from taking pictures of people, kids included, in public. If you are tking pics of your own kid and their kids are in the shot just tell them where they can jump.

I took pics of a Kings Cross bouncer at Heffron Pool Maroubra in 1992. Randwick City Council banned all photography at the pool in 2003 regardless of the age of the person being photographed. As Joe Jackson sang in 1982: “We think it’s getting better but nobody’s really sure”.

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Pandamony 4:12 pm
16 Feb 12
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The sentencing model doesn’t offer a lot of protection for the community when the offender is eventually released. How about a model where if someone is assessed that they are likely to re-offend then they are not released, with an ongoing periodic reassessment process? That way the community will be protected until they are truly reformed.

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Roadrage77 5:06 pm
16 Feb 12
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Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

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RaTTyRaTT 5:16 pm
16 Feb 12
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Ironically the issue always that is skirted around in this is “why does the incidence of this continue” along with “what happens behind closed doors across canberra” is more worrying.
The simple and sad fact is that this kind of thing is usually a symptom of the family life at home disintegrating, from either internal or external issues, such as money problems, marital issues, external influence (supposed friends, etc!)
Because of that, to be blunt, we’re always going to have this group of criminals in society. The worst thing is that the amount of unreported abuse that goes on is (personal figure) roughly between 2 to 6 times as high.

I think while the abuse is wrong, other ways of approaching this need to be considered. Just labelling and discarding people, combined with making their lives miserable will further drive them down the path that they may have (in some cases) inadvertently stepped on. Especially as more and more the feeling of disempowerment by people (parents, fathers, grandparents, etc) is being felt through ‘benelovent legislation!’ Never mind fiscal pressures.

Note also, there are many ‘forms’ of child abuse, and in some cases (well publicised) children can be ‘accused’ of child abuse, and put on a sex offenders list for life. Explain how that will ‘help’ them to be ‘cured’ or protect the community from them? This issue is contentious, yet I agree with JonahBologna – we can’t just create an underclass of citizens.

I’m not a bleeding heart about this, seen too much myself to not get angry, but if we can’t approach this rationally – we’re not going to make a dent in it. Emotional response (egged on by media) will create a worse world for us all. I know the feeling where I can’t take pictures of my kids in public, because I had someone yell at me once – ‘he’ was standing off to one side, and thought I was taking pictures of ‘him’ – go figure. Had others say the same, so my amateur photography sticks to scenery from now on – people are too stupid to deal with.

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Proboscus 5:17 pm
16 Feb 12
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Pandamony said :

The sentencing model doesn’t offer a lot of protection for the community when the offender is eventually released. How about a model where if someone is assessed that they are likely to re-offend then they are not released, with an ongoing periodic reassessment process? That way the community will be protected until they are truly reformed.

You’re model has some merit for your normal, everyday, run of the mill criminal – unfortunately paedophiles cannot be reformed.

And because we’re in the ACT, the un-silent minority would predictably bang on about the lack of Human Rights, Privacy, etc, that they believe these scum bags deserve.

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Deref 5:23 pm
16 Feb 12
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Roadrage77 said :

Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

It’s interesting coming from a gubmint that believes that gaol is a last resort, reserved only for people who kill politicians – everyone else gets a finger-wagging.

But paedophilia has been so demonised that it, like “terrism”, is the perfect soft target for any pollie who wants an instant headline and easy votes.

I eagerly await the “won’t somebody think of the children” responses.

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Proboscus 5:52 pm
16 Feb 12
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Deref said :

Roadrage77 said :

Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

It’s interesting coming from a gubmint that believes that gaol is a last resort, reserved only for people who kill politicians – everyone else gets a finger-wagging.

But paedophilia has been so demonised that it, like “terrism”, is the perfect soft target for any pollie who wants an instant headline and easy votes.

I eagerly await the “won’t somebody think of the children” responses.

Paedophilia has been “demonised” because it is an atrocious act upon our most vulnerable.

But if you want to defend the scum who choose to conduct themselves in this way instead of applauding any legislation that protects kids – you’re a bigger tool than I gave you credit for.

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Deref 6:46 pm
16 Feb 12
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Proboscus said :

Deref said :

Roadrage77 said :

Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

It’s interesting coming from a gubmint that believes that gaol is a last resort, reserved only for people who kill politicians – everyone else gets a finger-wagging.

But paedophilia has been so demonised that it, like “terrism”, is the perfect soft target for any pollie who wants an instant headline and easy votes.

I eagerly await the “won’t somebody think of the children” responses.

Paedophilia has been “demonised” because it is an atrocious act upon our most vulnerable.

But if you want to defend the scum who choose to conduct themselves in this way instead of applauding any legislation that protects kids – you’re a bigger tool than I gave you credit for.

Wow – that was faster than I expected.

Perhaps you’d be kind enough to indicate that part where I defended paedophilia and/or paedophiles.

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Merle 7:25 pm
16 Feb 12
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Proboscus said :

Alderney said :

Last Saturday, as I accompanied my 3 year old boy to gymnastics, it did cross my mind that if I took out the iphone to take a pics that I might be viewed with suspicion by the many other parents.

I therefore have no pics of my boy doing his first gym.

Not saying I don’t agree that our children deserve the best protection the State can offer from rock spiders, but in my situation is this what the world has come to?

As a parent I would have issues if you took photos of my children without my permission. I can’t understand why you wouldn’t take photos of your own child?

Seriously? You would have a problem with another parent taking pictures of their kid if yours just happened to also be in the shot? That’s nuts.

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HenryBG 7:51 pm
16 Feb 12
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Proboscus said :

Deref said :

Roadrage77 said :

Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

It’s interesting coming from a gubmint that believes that gaol is a last resort, reserved only for people who kill politicians – everyone else gets a finger-wagging.

But paedophilia has been so demonised that it, like “terrism”, is the perfect soft target for any pollie who wants an instant headline and easy votes.

I eagerly await the “won’t somebody think of the children” responses.

Paedophilia has been “demonised” because it is an atrocious act upon our most vulnerable.

But if you want to defend the scum who choose to conduct themselves in this way instead of applauding any legislation that protects kids – you’re a bigger tool than I gave you credit for.

Thank you. Saved me the trouble.

You’ll find there is a certain section of the community which is (at best) ambivalent about protecting children from sexual predators, and Deref’s contribution contained more than just an echo of that attitude.

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Tooks 8:52 pm
16 Feb 12
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Deref said :

Roadrage77 said :

Yet another attention-grabbing stunt from Corbell who’s determined to leave his initials in the pavement or die trying.

Political stunts like this merely foster moral panic amongst paranoid parents.

It’s interesting coming from a gubmint that believes that gaol is a last resort, reserved only for people who kill politicians – everyone else gets a finger-wagging.

But paedophilia has been so demonised that it, like “terrism”, is the perfect soft target for any pollie who wants an instant headline and easy votes.

I eagerly await the “won’t somebody think of the children” responses.

Three paragraphs of rampant stupidity. Thanks for that.

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