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NBN rollout. To 2014 we wait (unless we live in Gungahlin)

By johnboy - 29 March 2012 48

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Labor MLA Chris Bourke has tweeted the planned NBN rollout.

Coming up in Canberra is Belconnen, Crace, Civic, Deakin, Kambah, Manuka, Monash and Scullin.

Julia Gillard has announced she intends 135,000 homes, businesses, schools and hospitals to be connected in Canberra by mid 2014.

NBNco has an interactive map.

It appears outside of Gungahlin and Mitchell we’re all going to be waiting until [after] 2014.

UPDATE 29/03/12 15:44: Chief Minister Gallagher has expressed her joy at not being left out.

[Photo by rpongsaj CC BY 2.0]

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NBN rollout. To 2014 we wait (unless we live in Gungahlin)
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Dilandach 12:32 pm
29 Mar 12
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Terribly frustrating to have a government that is as terribad as this but doing something as good as the NBN. The coalition really do need to support the NBN instead of being against it “just cos” or spruiking ridiculous notions that wireless is just as good as fiber/fibre everywhere.

The NBN is this generations POTS rollout, it makes me wonder if they were rolling out the phone system these days if the coalition would be against that and insist that people would be able to make do with telegrams.

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aidan 12:51 pm
29 Mar 12
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Dilandach said :

Terribly frustrating to have a government that is as terribad as this but doing something as good as the NBN.

Cognitive dissonance much?

Anyway JB, the map is “within 3 years”, and that pdf says work will commence between April this year and 2015. Looks to me like it will definitely be starting soon.

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dpm 12:53 pm
29 Mar 12
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I’m pretty naive, but it’s a pity they don’t just buy TransACT which is already in place for almost everyone? Or they could at least ‘rent’ some of it’s bandwidth for a couple of years while they got their cables put in place.
Instead, it just sits there basically doing nothing……

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Keijidosha 12:59 pm
29 Mar 12
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Dilandach said :

The coalition really do need to support the NBN instead of being against it “just cos” or spruiking ridiculous notions that wireless is just as good as fiber/fibre everywhere.

I don’t remember the Libs claiming wireless was ‘just as good as fibre’. Far as I can tell their position was about balancing fibre and wireless, and that we don’t need the expense of fibre rolled out to every home. I tend to agree given the rate at which people have dumped fixed line services in favor of wireless technology, and the relatively low NBN uptake in the first areas connected.

That being said I am looking forward to having fibre at my doorstep, however living in an area with underground services I highly doubt it will reach me by 2014.

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Dilandach 1:02 pm
29 Mar 12
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aidan said :

Dilandach said :

Terribly frustrating to have a government that is as terribad as this but doing something as good as the NBN.

Cognitive dissonance much?

Both sides are overall bad, but you’ve gotta choose one.

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johnboy 1:03 pm
29 Mar 12
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aidan said :

Anyway JB, the map is “within 3 years”, and that pdf says work will commence between April this year and 2015. Looks to me like it will definitely be starting soon.

Pretty sure they stuff marked for “within 1 year” and “within 2 years” will be going first.

As to the network, as a monolithic government owned infrastructure for communication it’s pretty much at odds with everything the internet is supposed to be.

Because it’s not like we don’t have:

a goddawful history of censorship in this country, or

plans to regulate even the smallest of blogs, or

a recent example of media restrictions being used to allow the Government to crush resistance to its policies oppressing some of the most vulnerable people in the world, or

plans to filter the internet based on secret lists of banned content.

So yeah, government owned internet provision for Australia. We can’t say it’s not part of the same old story, but it’s not as much of a forward step as you’d hope.

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Tony 1:03 pm
29 Mar 12
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Does anyone know what will happen with Casey? It does not seem to fall within any of the shaded/planned areas. I’m aware that Ford and Bonner have Transact fibre, which might be why they’re also not in any of the plans, but Casey does not have Transact Fibre. Will I be stuck with Telstra copper for the next 10 years?

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Dilandach 1:03 pm
29 Mar 12
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dpm said :

I’m pretty naive, but it’s a pity they don’t just buy TransACT which is already in place for almost everyone? Or they could at least ‘rent’ some of it’s bandwidth for a couple of years while they got their cables put in place.
Instead, it just sits there basically doing nothing……

Last I heard was iinet snapping up transact and its network.

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Jungle Jim 1:05 pm
29 Mar 12
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dpm – iiNet just bought TransACT. Also, I’m not sure the fibre being rolled out for NBN is the same as the TransACT cabling in place already.

Also, even though there are only 7 primary suburb listings, they seem to encompass ALL surrounding suburbs too. The interactive map has Wanniassa listed for March 2014.

we will commence work in your area from Mar 2014 in phases with last work scheduled to commence in Dec 2014*

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Chop71 1:10 pm
29 Mar 12
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“It appears outside of Gungahlin and Mitchell we’re all going to be waiting until 2014.”

Sorry JB it’s 2015+ if you add in the 12 month completion times

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Dilandach 1:10 pm
29 Mar 12
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johnboy said :

So yeah, government owned internet provision for Australia. We can’t say it’s not part of the same old story, but it’s not as much of a forward step as you’d hope.

I don’t have a fear of a big brother operation running on the NBN infrastructure (not much more than already exists in major ISPs and content providers) but I don’t like the proposed censorship list or any ability for government to cut off or restrict access. Their responsibility should end with the deployment of infrastructure.

It is the impossible choice, take the NBN, have a world class network and the risk that censorship is just around the corner. Don’t take the NBN and assume that censorship isn’t on the table but suffer from falling behind in the tech stakes.

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johnboy 1:14 pm
29 Mar 12
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At the moment it will take legislation to implement filtering. Once the government owns the network it can happen with a nod and a wink.

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thatsnotme 1:18 pm
29 Mar 12
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johnboy said :

At the moment it will take legislation to implement filtering. Once the government owns the network it can happen with a nod and a wink.

The Government will not be pushing data to end users. NBN is not a service provider. Unless the Government decides to implement a system that works the same as the Chinese one does, it’ll take a lot more than a nod and a wink to filter traffic to end users – it’s the ISPs who need to implement filtering mechanisms. Not the NBN.

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dpm 1:23 pm
29 Mar 12
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Jungle Jim said :

dpm – iiNet just bought TransACT.

Yep, I was aware of that. I suppose my question is: why did iiNet buy it, if in ~3 years there will be a full NBN cable rollout? What will it then be used for? I suppose the same as now – zip?

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johnboy 1:27 pm
29 Mar 12
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Just watch for the terms and conditions of connecting to the NBN.

ownership is control, and the history of censorship in this country does us no credit.

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