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No sunscreen, please, we’re Canberran.

By 26 November 2012 21

My wife was telling me that our prospective pre-school won’t apply sunscreen on children.  The reason is that if they did, they would be required to wash their hands after each child (so it’s not about allergies).  I didn’t find out why they have to wash their hands after each child,  kid cooties being the primary suspect, yet I can’t imagine sunscreen abstinence will protect preschoolers from each other.  They are prepared, however, to lower the drawbridge to roll-ons if one is provided by the parents.

Not outraged, just bemused.  We’ll just try not to forget to dip our kid in all-day sunscreen before dropping them off, or teach them to be creative with a zinc-stick.  But is this policy common among pre-schools in Canberra?  I know our day-care centre slaps it on from the communal barrel whenever they think of it so this is all new to me.

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21 Responses to No sunscreen, please, we’re Canberran.
#1
Madam Cholet9:42 am, 26 Nov 12

That’s a bit bizarre. Our little chap is off to Guvvie pre-school next year and I haven’t read anything like that in their literature. Unless they have extensive shade that children cannot stray from I’d say this is irresponsible and does not meet the Sunsmart guidelines.

My son has a reaction to most sunscreens so we have to provide our own for him at daycare which I will continue to do at pre-school. I now that they are encouraged to put on their own – perhaps that is what they were getting at? That the teachers won’t but your child can. OK if they supervise it.

#2
BBQNinja9:55 am, 26 Nov 12

I believe all preschools have the same policy, at least public ones.

I’m not certain of the reason, but there’d be a pretty huge practical implication to trying to apply sunscreen to 25 kids. It’d take oven an hour…

#3
Rollersk8r11:29 am, 26 Nov 12

Don’t see any reason for bemusement. If applying sunscreen is their responsibility it also becomes their fault if your kid gets burned. Plus it’s not practical to line the kids up several times a day. I agree there are lots of rules these days – but the sunscreen one is fine by me.

#4
Madam Cholet11:52 am, 26 Nov 12

I know that our day care applies the cream with cotton wool – a clean one for each child. Political correctness gone mad to advise parents that you aren’t doing it at all. If the kid tries their best to apply it in the face of refusal by the teachers, and the kid gets burnt, then whose at fault? I know who I’ll be blaming.

Got a pre-school meeting this arvo. I’ll raise this issue.

#5
Alderney12:15 pm, 26 Nov 12

BBQNinja said :

I believe all preschools have the same policy, at least public ones.

I’m not certain of the reason, but there’d be a pretty huge practical implication to trying to apply sunscreen to 25 kids. It’d take oven an hour…

So the pre-schools now have a policy of assuaging their duty of care? Interesting.

It’ll make an interesting test case when my fair skinned English complexion son is burnt to a crisp next year. Oh, and the law suit against the ACT government in 40 years time when he develops skin cancers.

So what if it takes over an hour to apply the kids sunscreen? One would think it’s part of the job. I don’t tell the gov I’m not writing that brief because it’ll take me 2 days to research it. Sorry Gov, that MoU you want with (insert name of country here). It’s going to take too long, so sod it.

If as you state is true, it’s pathetic.

#6
MERC6001:30 pm, 26 Nov 12

Couldn’t they just line em up and hit em with a spray gun; like the bloke used to do on the beach at the Gold Coast. or was it Bondi ? I remember thinkin what a hell of a job.

#7
Henry821:58 pm, 26 Nov 12

I agree, we need sunscreen that can be loaded into an air gun – Like car painting.

#8
Sandman2:18 pm, 26 Nov 12

It’s pre-school, not public funded au-pairs? Stop shirking parental responsibilities and apply your own sunscreen.
As for post 5, good luck with your lawsuit considering the school has said they won’t apply the sunscreen. Not sure what your main argument will be but might I recommend a lawyer? Your first choice shout be Dennis Denuto but if he’s too busy then Lionel Hutz would be a good second option for you.

#9
How_Canberran2:34 pm, 26 Nov 12

Now I am humming the ‘Banana Boat’ commercial!

How Canberran

#10
Alderney2:41 pm, 26 Nov 12

Sandman said :

It’s pre-school, not public funded au-pairs? Stop shirking parental responsibilities and apply your own sunscreen.
As for post 5, good luck with your lawsuit considering the school has said they won’t apply the sunscreen. Not sure what your main argument will be but might I recommend a lawyer? Your first choice shout be Dennis Denuto but if he’s too busy then Lionel Hutz would be a good second option for you.

What part of ‘must be reapplied every 2 hours’ don’t you understand. What past of ‘duty of care’ do you not understand? What am I talking to a moron like he has intelligence?

I’ve always found it best not to shout at my lawyer or, as we call them in this country, solicitors.

#11
Postalgeek3:07 pm, 26 Nov 12

Sandman said :

It’s pre-school, not public funded au-pairs? Stop shirking parental responsibilities and apply your own sunscreen.

Slapping sunscreen on at the start of the day isn’t the issue. Shirking parental responsibilities is to think sunscreen doesn’t need to be re-applied for the rest of the day.

Peak UV lasts from 10am-3pm. You’ve covered your kid at 8am. Now go find a cancer council site that doesn’t recommend reapplication after two hours and then you can come back here all smug.

Anyway, Sunsmart initiatives cover a number of bases with hats, clothing, and shadeclothes, so it’s not the end of the world if little Geeklet doesn’t get a second coating before the end of the day.

But with the Sunsmart campaign aimed at schools and kids I just find the policy a little odd.

#12
grunge_hippy5:02 pm, 26 Nov 12

surely if you are all so concerned about this you would have taught them to do it themselves? It’s not hard. My kids can do it and have so since they were about 3.

Either that get them to wear light cotton long sleeves and long pants and a hat…. and stop complaining!

#13
Madam Cholet5:10 pm, 26 Nov 12

Fresh from meet the teacher at new pre-school in Isabella, and the word is that the teachers will offer help if your child needs it. Sounded sensible to me, but yes, did hear that they prefer roll on dispensers for obvious reasons. Did advise to have your child slathered before dropping off, but will of course re-apply later in the day.

#14
Woody Mann-Caruso6:25 pm, 26 Nov 12

What part of ‘must be reapplied every 2 hours’ don’t you understand. What past of ‘duty of care’ do you not understand? What am I talking to a moron like he has intelligence?

What part of “just buy a f*ckin’ roll-on and get it over with” didn’t you understand?

We did. It was a whopping three bucks at Aldi. Another first world problem solved. Maybe you could pick up a box of tissues while you’re there.

#15
Frustrated9:10 pm, 26 Nov 12

Lol, Parents want everything done for them these days dont they.

Little Johnny got a sore foot, time to send him home.

That’s why the recent Gens are soft cocks

#16
LSWCHP9:37 pm, 26 Nov 12

Speaking as a human being here, and looking around at some of the people with whom I share this fine burg, I don’t think I’d like to apply sunscreen by hand to 20 random grommets. Roll on or spray on would probably be OK, but not by hand.

And from a different perspective, what would you do as a parent if your little’un came home and told you how vigorously their carer had rubbed the sunscreen in today. All over the place, and with such a funny smile!!

#17
jayskette9:52 pm, 26 Nov 12

how often are the kids actually outside during their preschool day? I’d say twice?

#18
Sandman10:06 pm, 26 Nov 12

Alderney said :

Sandman said :

It’s pre-school, not public funded au-pairs? Stop shirking parental responsibilities and apply your own sunscreen.
As for post 5, good luck with your lawsuit considering the school has said they won’t apply the sunscreen. Not sure what your main argument will be but might I recommend a lawyer? Your first choice shout be Dennis Denuto but if he’s too busy then Lionel Hutz would be a good second option for you.

What part of ‘must be reapplied every 2 hours’ don’t you understand. What past of ‘duty of care’ do you not understand? What am I talking to a moron like he has intelligence?

I’ve always found it best not to shout at my lawyer or, as we call them in this country, solicitors.

http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/home
http://www.australianlawyersdirectory.com.au/
http://lawyersalliance.com.au/
http://www.lawyers.com.au/

The industry itself seems to throw the word lawyer around a lot, so I’m not sure that your complete dismissal of the word as though using it is some heinous crime is quite warranted. However, you do seem to be quite the legal expert with your threats of lawsuits. Those threats are quite possibly the reason this policy exists. 20 toddlers running around and it wouldn’t be too hard to miss a spot. No doubt the preschool teachers don’t appreciate being yelled at by parents such as yourself over every little thing. Your attitude and implied liability is why they do what they do.
My kids get sunscreened up before they go to school. They have a bottle each in their bag but I know that doesn’t get used during the day. Neither of them has ever come home with a sunburn and all the preschools in my area have either a lot of large shady deciduous trees or enough shade sails to hide a tank regiment. If your child Is that susceptible then there are plenty of other options you could pursue.

Thanks for this sentence in your reply too “What am I talking to a moron like he has intelligence?” . It made me LOL.

#19
54-1112:48 am, 27 Nov 12

grunge_hippy said :

surely if you are all so concerned about this you would have taught them to do it themselves? It’s not hard. My kids can do it and have so since they were about 3.

Either that get them to wear light cotton long sleeves and long pants and a hat…. and stop complaining!

My partner works at a childcare centre. She says that the staff all adhere to sound sun-smart policies, which means they help the littlies put on sunscreen.

But they expect that kids at pre-school level have been shown by their parents how to do it. However, they will help if needed.

A perfectly reasonable policy and one that seems to work.

Not sure what the problem is with the OP, and I can’t for the life of me understand why this thread, like so many on RA, descends into a slanging match. Talk about road rage online!

#20
steveu6:38 am, 27 Nov 12

OP you raise a valid point. And duty of care provisions would apply for sure IMHO.

I think child care centres try to encourage kids to do their own sunscreen when they are old enough.

#21
Madam Cholet8:45 am, 27 Nov 12

My son is fair haired and fair skinned. He would burn to a crisp without sunscreen being liberally and regularly applied to him. By putting him into pre-school, whether Gov or private, I hand over my duty of care. If you are not there, it’s hard to monitor.

My son does put on his own sunscreen, but he doesn’t get it quite right – often big white patches on some bits, and none on other bits. It’s not his fault – he’s only 4. But he’s learning.

It would be the same in any situation – not just pre-school, school or day-care. If you hand your child over to anyone as part of an agreed arrangement – i.e. babysitting, uncle, grandparent – you expect that they will be taken care of according to expecting norms.

Anyway, as I said, the pre-school seemed reasonable yesterday and I’m sure that if I explain that I prefer he is supervised whilst applying his own sunscreen for a while, I’m sure they will do it.

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