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On 21 August 2010 my senate vote will go to…

By 12 August, 2010 57

[First filed: Aug 11, 2010 @ 10:14]

If the Greens can make news with a poll of 400 people then why not have a look at how the RiotACT readership is feeling about the crucial Senate race?

On 21 August in the Senate I will give the higher preference to

  • Lin Hatfield Dodds (Greens) (52%, 366 Votes)
  • Gary Humphries (Liberals) (29%, 204 Votes)
  • Kate Lundy (ALP) (19%, 138 Votes)

Total Voters: 708

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(Bear in mind internet polls should not be taken too seriously)

UPDATE Just bumping this back up the page to shoot for the magical 450+ which apparently makes it a proper sample ;-) (Sadly our fraud prevention systems exclude a lot of potential pollsters)

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57 Responses to On 21 August 2010 my senate vote will go to…
#1
JessicaNumber11:10 am, 11 Aug 10

I’m not surprised to see Lin Hatfield Dodds looking so popular. I spent 3 years working in the not for profit sector (health area) and I’ve always heard Lin described as a successful manager with a good grasp of policy.

It’s great to see the Greens finding a candidate with experience in running a successful organisation and a genuine passion for doing what’s right.

It also probably helps the Greens that Canberra voters are politically aware and understand that they can give first preference to Greens (or even the silly party) without “throwing away their vote” as preferences have equal weight. I’ve also heard Canberra people tell me that they will vote Green knowing that there will never be a Greens majority in Parliament because they see the value in having just a few Greens in Parliament to represent the human interest (even if they don’t necessarily trust a Greens Government).

#2
caf11:40 am, 11 Aug 10

Aye, the problem with internet polls is that they’re self-selecting and not demographically weighted.

#3
Holden Caulfield11:47 am, 11 Aug 10

I’ll vote for the one that’s gonna stop them boat people stealing all our jobs.

#4
Eyl12:00 pm, 11 Aug 10

Its kinda sad that there is no real good candidates this election….

#5
p112:02 pm, 11 Aug 10

Holden Caulfield said :

I’ll vote for the one that’s gonna stop them boat people stealing all our jobs.

The Taliban?

#6
kagey12:13 pm, 11 Aug 10

I do not take this poll seriously.
Seriously.

#7
Thumper12:18 pm, 11 Aug 10

I’m all the way with LBJ, or hitting the tar with Obama, or wax and polishing as I clean with Mr Sheen.

Hang on…

#8
Primal12:22 pm, 11 Aug 10

Greens. How the heck else are we going to get the ACT in on the pork?

#9
switch12:35 pm, 11 Aug 10

Eyl said :

Its kinda sad that there is no real good candidates this election….

Or even a few genuine loonies to liven things up.

#10
Monster of the Deep12:53 pm, 11 Aug 10

Why isn’t there an option in the poll for “I’ll draw a penis on the ballot paper”?

#11
Holden Caulfield1:24 pm, 11 Aug 10

p1 said :

Holden Caulfield said :

I’ll vote for the one that’s gonna stop them boat people stealing all our jobs.

The Taliban?

Haha, good response. They’ll do!

#12
DBCooper2:19 pm, 11 Aug 10

I’m tired of Aborigines taking everybody’s jobs!

No doubt the Nanny State ,Ban everything and piss on Australians ‘Implied?” rights crew will get in regardless of who wins. Pretty soon helmets will be compulsory for pedestrians.

F**k that shit I’m voting for Norris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkudKzFo7zs

#13
icantbelieveitsnotbu3:04 pm, 11 Aug 10

JessicaNumber said :

I’m not surprised to see Lin Hatfield Dodds looking so popular. I spent 3 years working in the not for profit sector (health area) and I’ve always heard Lin described as a successful manager with a good grasp of policy.

It’s great to see the Greens finding a candidate with experience in running a successful organisation and a genuine passion for doing what’s right.

It also probably helps the Greens that Canberra voters are politically aware and understand that they can give first preference to Greens (or even the silly party) without “throwing away their vote” as preferences have equal weight. I’ve also heard Canberra people tell me that they will vote Green knowing that there will never be a Greens majority in Parliament because they see the value in having just a few Greens in Parliament to represent the human interest (even if they don’t necessarily trust a Greens Government).

What about Kerrie Tucker, she was alright?

#14
zephyr96733:25 pm, 11 Aug 10

Wow, that was just like voting, and she won, wow if that happens in a big way through this election, I might never be called a dole bludger in my life, ever again :-)

Did I ever tell you fellow rioters, how much I love voting.

I had to pre pol, just to take my vote as far away from the right as my little ballot paper would carry me :-)

Greens 1, then, allllllllllllll the way down the bottom, liberal, so far past 1, well you know last, where if my vote counts, should retire the theives.

I’v been locked up, for protesting, by mistake so my daughter could be stolen, still, very very angry about that gary.

Toni, when you, as I hope you do, you know loose the election. I, unfortunately caught you drooling all over a little girl who said she would have voted for you, You perhaps should lower the voting age to, if you can fill out your name and address, you can vote :-)

I wanna make your wish come true toni, however, if that little girl wasn’t you know, one of yours, I think she only said that to get rid of you, I could be wrong, but if I were that little girl, and I knew what a lier you are, and what you are talking about doing to the dole.

You’ve obviously got connections toni, and wealth, why take power, why don’t you go somewhere where you aren’t gonna hurt anyone, you can afford it, me and everyone I know I thinking about $6000, that we don’t have to have a baby for, thinking, labors getting it, the have forgotten what it feels like to be poor, and are probably sick of being attacked from the right for trying to help the lumpenproletariat.

Don’t give up, I hope the Greens give you a mandate to clean up the scum on the right, I think I’m begining to enjoy politics in a hole new way :-)

#15
Jim Jones3:35 pm, 11 Aug 10

Holden Caulfield said :

I’ll vote for the one that’s gonna stop them boat people stealing all our jobs.

TERK ER JERBS!!!

#16
caf3:58 pm, 11 Aug 10

Roy Morgan have released a poll showing:

In ACT: ALP 41.5% (up 0.7%), L-NP 27% (down 7.2%), Greens 27% (up 5.5%) and Others 4.5% (up 1%). This would most likely result in one ACT ALP Senator and one Greens Senator.

(The sample size was 446, giving a margin of error of 4.1%, and the poll was conducted over February – July).

#17
Howler4:04 pm, 11 Aug 10

I reckon the greens have a good show of getting a seat in the senate this time. Kerrie Tucker was unlucky last election and wouldn’t it be ironic if Kate Lundy lost HER seat and not Gary Humphries as widely assumed.

The ALP might be in for a shock over what they did to Kevin Rudd!

#18
JessicaNumber4:23 pm, 11 Aug 10

icantbelieveitsnotbutter said :

What about Kerrie Tucker, she was alright?

Yes Lin’s definitely not the only example of the Greens picking up intelligent, organised and altruistic candidates. People dismiss the Greens as inexperienced but you can only examine the candidate and the policies.

#19
bd846:14 pm, 11 Aug 10

Do the greens actually have any policies? Other than the “stop the public service cuts” line? I haven’t seen them come out with anything realistic or sensible yet, so with a lack of normal political indicators you could try voting based on how good looking each candidate was. But that case the electoral commission would have to cut Lin off the ballot paper all together as she is morbidly obese, that can’t be a good role model for anyone in our community.

The Greens are going right down the bottom of the ballot paper where they belong, even below the labor candidate and any other random parties that will never get enough votes to have an impact.

#20
bd846:16 pm, 11 Aug 10

caf said :

Roy Morgan have released a poll showing:

In ACT: ALP 41.5% (up 0.7%), L-NP 27% (down 7.2%), Greens 27% (up 5.5%) and Others 4.5% (up 1%). This would most likely result in one ACT ALP Senator and one Greens Senator.

(The sample size was 446, giving a margin of error of 4.1%, and the poll was conducted over February – July).

Sampling 0.1 percent of the ACT’s population is always a good statistical indicator..

#21
shaneb6:52 pm, 11 Aug 10

If Lin Hatfield Dodds wins the second ACT seat (she won’t) she would be the least intelligent senator in a senate that also include Senator Conroy. That’s not easy to do.

I do support the Greens on their environmental and IT policies, which is good enough for me to ignore their abhorrent economic policies. So I think I will give my first preference to the Greens number two candidate (Hannah Parris) so that the Greens get my ~$2.50 and I don’t risk supporting Dodds.

Howler said :

The ALP might be in for a shock over what they did to Kevin Rudd!

No they wont.

#22
I-filed9:07 pm, 11 Aug 10

bd84 said :

Do the greens actually have any policies?

They published a hefty little policy booklet – on only 50 per cent recycled paper, imported from Europe … good enough apparently …

#23
arescarti429:41 pm, 11 Aug 10

Jim Jones said :

Holden Caulfield said :

I’ll vote for the one that’s gonna stop them boat people stealing all our jobs.

TERK ER JERBS!!!

THEY DERK OUR JERBS!!!

But then I remember how that episode finished.

#24
caf10:09 pm, 11 Aug 10

bd84: It’s not great, but it’s not as bad as it sounds. The statistics of sampling say that (as long as the sampling is random) there’s a 95% chance that the true result lies within +/- 4.1% of the 27% given for both Liberal and Green.

To get about a 2% margin of error requires a sample size of around 2000. The returns rapidly dimish the higher you go.

Interestingly, as long as you’re sampling less then about 5% of the population, the margin of error is pretty much independent of population size.

#25
JessicaNumber10:29 pm, 11 Aug 10

Sif the sampling is random! What time were they contacted? How were they contacted? How was the question asked? Do they screen their calls? Do they own a phone? Do they live in a house? Do they work in an office? Do they even OWN a BODY???

#26
Thumper8:11 am, 12 Aug 10

Of course all of you who vote for the Greens are quite happy with this little bit of policy?

http://www.vexnews.com/news/10315/death-tax-greens-party-plans-to-tax-the-dead/

#27
Erg09:32 am, 12 Aug 10

This result is probably more interesting for what it says about the RiotACT readership than anything else.

#28
Outta Control10:13 am, 12 Aug 10

bd84 said :

caf said :

Roy Morgan have released a poll showing:

In ACT: ALP 41.5% (up 0.7%), L-NP 27% (down 7.2%), Greens 27% (up 5.5%) and Others 4.5% (up 1%). This would most likely result in one ACT ALP Senator and one Greens Senator.

(The sample size was 446, giving a margin of error of 4.1%, and the poll was conducted over February – July).

Sampling 0.1 percent of the ACT’s population is always a good statistical indicator..

Roy Morgan Research was the outfit that did the polls prior to the 2001 election claiming the Labor party would sweep into power. That was, of course, the Tampa/Sept 11 election which saw John Howard and the Liberals sweep back into office with an increased majority.

#29
caf10:31 am, 12 Aug 10

JessicaNumber: This is true, which is why the reputable polling outfits demographically weight their responses. So if they find that, say, mid-twenties females are underrepresented in their sample, they’ll weight those responses higher.

(This weighting does increase the margin of error a little, too).

#30
Woody Mann-Caruso10:34 am, 12 Aug 10

Sampling 0.1 percent of the ACT’s population is always a good statistical indicator…

Statistics – you fail at it.

Confidence level: 95%
Confidence interval: +/- 5%
Population: 351,200 (ACT population June 2009 – can use number of voters if you like (~225,000), sample won’t size change)
Sample size required: 384

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