On bail Justin Monfries named as driver in Canberra hospital horror smash

By 4 May, 2012 196

The Canberra Times reports that the man being very grudgingly treated at Canberra hospital after yesterday’s fatal collision on Yamba Drive is one Justin Monfries:

The 24-year-old, who has an extensive criminal history, was on bail for assault occasioning actual bodily harm and possessing an offensive weapon, specifically a machete.

He had entered pleas of not guilty to the allegations.

Monfries has been diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, and at a bail application earlier this year told the court through his lawyer he was terrified of being returned to prison.

On Facebook there is a Justin Monfries revelling in the userid of “evilkid666″.

UPDATE 04/05/12 14:38: Google gives a hefty list of court appearances.

Also the Chief Police Officer has tweeted the charges:

UPDATE 04/05/12 15:12: The police media release is now up:

ACT Policing has charged a 24-year-old Kambah man following a fatal collision yesterday (Thursday, May 3) afternoon.

Around 4.45pm a 38-year-old woman was killed and another suffered serious injuries after being hit by a vehicle while crossing the road outside The Canberra Hospital.

Police will allege the vehicle was stolen when it ran a red light and hit the pedestrians who were crossing the intersection at Bateson Road.

The man was discharged from The Canberra Hospital early this afternoon (Friday, May 4), and transported to the ACT Watch House, where he was charged with manslaughter, culpable driving causing death, culpable driving causing grievous bodily harm and other traffic related offences.

He will face the ACT Magistrates Court this afternoon.

UPDATE 04/05/12 18:53: The ABC has named the victims as the “killed Linda Cox, 38, who worked in the hospital’s cardiology department and seriously injured Ashlee Bumpus, 25″

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196 Responses to On bail Justin Monfries named as driver in Canberra hospital horror smash
#151
buzz8198:46 am, 08 May 12

Deref said :

Proboscus said :

As for alternatives for getting off for killing his mother – I’ll spell it out for you…..J. A. I. L.

What – he should be sent to an American prison?

Not such a bad idea.

Isn’t it G.A.O.L?

#152
Lookout Smithers9:09 am, 08 May 12

Proboscus said :

Lookout Smithers said :

Proboscus said :

Ben_Dover said :

Monfries has been diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, and at a bail application earlier this year told the court through his lawyer he was terrified of being returned to prison.

Better let him go then, oh, and get him a new social worker for goodness sake!

+1

There was a young bloke a few years ago who murdered his mum (stabbed her 57 times or something) who got off because he had Ashbergers (apolgies for spelling) Syndrome.

This arse hat will definitely get off…

So what would you suggest as the alternative if he “got off” killing his MOTHER. I know the family. His sister is actually a prosecutor too. He has the full support of the remaining family members. Count for anything? Perhaps you need all the facts to the case.

Sorry, this should’ve been in my earlier reply. Forgive me for my premature submission.

I’m confused by the “His sister is a prosecutor too” so that must make it OK argument – what does that mean?

As for alternatives for getting off for killing his mother – I’ll spell it out for you…..J. A. I. L.

Last I heard he was still in a secure facility until well enough to be released, for the safety of others and himself. The family are anything but “cool with it” but rather know the case and all the facts around it. And Henry I hope you are joking with that link to theage? That is probably the least informed a person could get to. But reading the post underneath just takes the cake. What would it take to inform people accurately without boring them senseless, as everyone is aware the real story is just not that interesting.

#153
Lookout Smithers9:37 am, 08 May 12

Deref said :

Proboscus said :

As for alternatives for getting off for killing his mother – I’ll spell it out for you…..J. A. I. L.

What – he should be sent to an American prison?

Not such a bad idea.

It is only spelled that way in government documents but the media and most Australians have adopted the new spelling.

#154
bundah9:50 am, 08 May 12

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

#155
Dilandach11:10 am, 08 May 12

bundah said :

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

If his immediate family are on benefits, they should be cut. No questions, no appeals. Just straight away cut.

After word gets around that if you’ve got a deadbeat relative who’s dead set on committing crimes and that they’re putting your benefits at risk, the problem will be sorted out ‘in house’. Breaking the generational welfare dependence is a large part of these increasing and repetitive issues.

#156
Lazy I12:10 pm, 08 May 12

Dilandach said :

bundah said :

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

If his immediate family are on benefits, they should be cut. No questions, no appeals. Just straight away cut.

After word gets around that if you’ve got a deadbeat relative who’s dead set on committing crimes and that they’re putting your benefits at risk, the problem will be sorted out ‘in house’. Breaking the generational welfare dependence is a large part of these increasing and repetitive issues.

It is a pretty huge assumption to make that his immediate family is on benefits, and ever if they were I have no idea how it is even relevant.

This guy is 24 years old, he is an adult, what his parents / family say to him would likely have no impact on his decisions, they don’t control him.I don’t understand how punishing them would make a scrap of difference.

#157
Lookout Smithers12:23 pm, 08 May 12

Dilandach said :

bundah said :

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

If his immediate family are on benefits, they should be cut. No questions, no appeals. Just straight away cut.

After word gets around that if you’ve got a deadbeat relative who’s dead set on committing crimes and that they’re putting your benefits at risk, the problem will be sorted out ‘in house’. Breaking the generational welfare dependence is a large part of these increasing and repetitive issues.

None of his immediate family are on benefits but for the compensation they received from VOC. They are all mostly well educated middle class people. Breaking welfare dependance comes down many factors. Poverty being one of them. So if you took it away you can count on crime rates hitting record levels. That is all but just short of a mathematical certainty .

#158
johnboy12:26 pm, 08 May 12

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

#159
GardeningGirl12:30 pm, 08 May 12

Dilandach said :

bundah said :

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

If his immediate family are on benefits, they should be cut. No questions, no appeals. Just straight away cut.

After word gets around that if you’ve got a deadbeat relative who’s dead set on committing crimes and that they’re putting your benefits at risk, the problem will be sorted out ‘in house’. Breaking the generational welfare dependence is a large part of these increasing and repetitive issues.

To a certain extent I agree. If the under-age persons you are responsible for are showing signs of going down the wrong path and (recognising that sometimes otherwise good parents can have a particularly challenging child) you cannot demonstrate that you have made genuine attempts to deal with it and to seek outside help if necessary, then there should be consequences. Just what would be appropriate and effective I’m not sure.

#160
Jim Jones12:41 pm, 08 May 12

bundah said :

Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase

It’s not.

#161
Jim Jones12:46 pm, 08 May 12

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

How, precisely, is LS excusing an atrocity?

By discussing welfare dependency rationally?

By failing to take up a pitchfork and snarl for blood with the rest of the lynch mob?

#162
Postalgeek1:33 pm, 08 May 12

Jim Jones said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

How, precisely, is LS excusing an atrocity?

By discussing welfare dependency rationally?

By failing to take up a pitchfork and snarl for blood with the rest of the lynch mob?

I looked for a pitchfork in Bunnings but they don’t have any, so I had to settle for one of those plastic grass rakes. And the only torches they sold were bamboo beach ones or LED. I went with the LED because they last longer and its easier to see when you’re running around in the dark.

#163
Brianna1:54 pm, 08 May 12

Lazy I said :

Dilandach said :

bundah said :

The simple reality is that while ever there is little or no fear of consequence of one’s actions anti-social behaviour will continue to be commonplace.Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase governments need to get serious about tackling these issues before more law abiding citizens become victims.Unfortunately it is clear that maintaining the status quo at present is the preferred option!

If his immediate family are on benefits, they should be cut. No questions, no appeals. Just straight away cut.

After word gets around that if you’ve got a deadbeat relative who’s dead set on committing crimes and that they’re putting your benefits at risk, the problem will be sorted out ‘in house’. Breaking the generational welfare dependence is a large part of these increasing and repetitive issues.

It is a pretty huge assumption to make that his immediate family is on benefits, and ever if they were I have no idea how it is even relevant.

This guy is 24 years old, he is an adult, what his parents / family say to him would likely have no impact on his decisions, they don’t control him.I don’t understand how punishing them would make a scrap of difference.

Exactly. His family should not be punished for his choices and actions. He is an adult and made his choices. Lock him up and throw away the key but leave his family out of it. He was raised the same as his siblings and they are all good.

#164
HenryBG2:10 pm, 08 May 12

Jim Jones said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

How, precisely, is LS excusing an atrocity?

By discussing welfare dependency rationally?

He is not discussing welfare rationally, he is merely regurgitating the Left’s ideological beliefs about it, beliefs which have led to failure and to a vast increase in aboriginal welfare dependence and aboriginal imprisonment.

You would think the Left would be hiding its head in shame following the obvious failure of their approach to public education, the failure of their turfing all the loons out onto the streets from where a large proportion have ended up in gaol, and of course the total failure of their racist and patronising approach to aboriginal Australians.

#165
HenryBG2:13 pm, 08 May 12

Lazy I said :

This guy is 24 years old, he is an adult, what his parents / family say to him would likely have no impact on his decisions, they don’t control him.I don’t understand how punishing them would make a scrap of difference.

Hang on, you might be using the Wrong Kind of Logic, remember what Refshauge told us as he released Monfries back into the community:
the logic of Australian white society is not always a sure sign of the approach that should be adopted in the assessment of evidence from those of Aboriginal descent.

#166
Jim Jones2:30 pm, 08 May 12

HenryBG said :

Jim Jones said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

How, precisely, is LS excusing an atrocity?

By discussing welfare dependency rationally?

He is not discussing welfare rationally, he is merely regurgitating the Left’s ideological beliefs about it, beliefs which have led to failure and to a vast increase in aboriginal welfare dependence and aboriginal imprisonment.

You would think the Left would be hiding its head in shame following the obvious failure of their approach to public education, the failure of their turfing all the loons out onto the streets from where a large proportion have ended up in gaol, and of course the total failure of their racist and patronising approach to aboriginal Australians.

Whateverdude. The statements he’s made about cutting welfare leading to increased crime levels has been proven by similar actions in similar countries (most noticeably the US). If you have any evidence that cutting welfare will decrease crime levels, I’d be reeeeeally keen to see it.

#167
robcrisp2:55 pm, 08 May 12

If he is so scared of jail he is going the wrong way about avoiding it. He is a lying c*#t of a “man” who deserves nothing more than to rot in a jail cell and then hell, tormented by inmates, guards and Satan alike “evilkid666” what an idiot.

#168
OpenYourMind5:44 pm, 08 May 12

I joked about using the $50million jackpot from last week’s OzLotto to resurrect Mully. If Ozlotto hadn’t jackpotted again this week, I’d be thinking that someone took me up on the suggestion. Even if Monfries isn’t Mully, this thread is going the right way about winning a Mully award.

#169
bundah6:23 pm, 08 May 12

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase

It’s not.

It’s not?? is that the best you can do,how lame.It is an undeniable fact that violent crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase.Look at the statistics or spend some time on the streets and you might just have an epiphany!

#170
grunge_hippy6:54 pm, 08 May 12

OpenYourMind said :

I joked about using the $50million jackpot from last week’s OzLotto to resurrect Mully. If Ozlotto hadn’t jackpotted again this week, I’d be thinking that someone took me up on the suggestion. Even if Monfries isn’t Mully, this thread is going the right way about winning a Mully award.

What’s the bet if you connect the dots, they knew each other.

#171
Lookout Smithers8:23 pm, 08 May 12

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

I haven’t ever tried to excuse any atrocity? Not even my own wrap sheet. I only try and point out that crime reporting is never accurate and people should approach with an open mind. No one likes horrific crimes in their community JB. I can’t judge anyone for their actions, what gives me the right? Or anyone else for that matter. JB you did not even have to courage to fess up to a recent error you made in reporting someone’s name . I know it happens and no reasonable person would have hung you for it at all. Yet you didn’t say a word on this site. I think maybe because you write so one sided on the issue of crimes and related events there is no way you can be seen as credible. No one is when it comes to judgement of others but for others themselves. Though it is very annoying having things published about you that are false and misleading. Particularly if you have yet to publicly comment on the matter. I won’t excuse anyone for bad deeds, mate the same goes for slandering someone else with only a blog to go on. Its a dogshit effort and the person with sound character will make the effort. I am a fan JB, don’t get me wrong. All things on this site a great.Even the obvious cops!!

#172
basketofcat8:42 pm, 08 May 12

What a terrible set of circumstances. I hope everyone gets past this and that it never happens again. Bad, bad luck.

#173
bundah9:03 pm, 08 May 12

Lookout Smithers said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

. I can’t judge anyone for their actions, what gives me the right? Or anyone else for that matter.

Are you serious?? Humans are constantly making judgements re others behaviour,actions,appearance etc. I believe it’s hard wired in ones psyche!

#174
screaming banshee11:35 pm, 08 May 12

Lookout Smithers said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

I haven’t ever tried to excuse any atrocity? Not even my own wrap sheet. I only try and point out that crime reporting is never accurate and people should approach with an open mind. No one likes horrific crimes in their community JB. I can’t judge anyone for their actions, what gives me the right? Or anyone else for that matter. JB you did not even have to courage to fess up to a recent error you made in reporting someone’s name . I know it happens and no reasonable person would have hung you for it at all. Yet you didn’t say a word on this site. I think maybe because you write so one sided on the issue of crimes and related events there is no way you can be seen as credible. No one is when it comes to judgement of others but for others themselves. Though it is very annoying having things published about you that are false and misleading. Particularly if you have yet to publicly comment on the matter. I won’t excuse anyone for bad deeds, mate the same goes for slandering someone else with only a blog to go on. Its a dogshit effort and the person with sound character will make the effort. I am a fan JB, don’t get me wrong. All things on this site a great.Even the obvious cops!!

My reading of those events is that ‘someone’ got his or her knickers in a twist over it and made a mountain out of a mole hill. I suspect that lack of the apology that you were clearly logging in every day to check for has more to do with the proceedings around the matter.

#175
Jim Jones9:05 am, 09 May 12

bundah said :

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase

It’s not.

It’s not?? is that the best you can do,how lame.It is an undeniable fact that violent crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase.Look at the statistics or spend some time on the streets and you might just have an epiphany!

What statistics? You mean ‘Today Tonight’ and talkback radio?

I look at the statistics regularly. Crime rates have been relatively stable (if anything, dropping) in Australia for a long time (there was a significant drop in the 1980s). There’s been a trend towards reduction in property theft and a slight rise in reported assault (firearm assault is down – pub brawls are up). Murder is down and manslaughter is steady.

The ABS is here: http://www.abs.gov.au/
The AIC is here: http://www.aic.gov.au

How about you read some facts instead of being an alarmist know-nothing?

#176
bigfeet9:33 am, 09 May 12

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase

It’s not.

It’s not?? is that the best you can do,how lame.It is an undeniable fact that violent crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase.Look at the statistics or spend some time on the streets and you might just have an epiphany!

What statistics? You mean ‘Today Tonight’ and talkback radio?

I look at the statistics regularly. Crime rates have been relatively stable (if anything, dropping) in Australia for a long time (there was a significant drop in the 1980s). There’s been a trend towards reduction in property theft and a slight rise in reported assault (firearm assault is down – pub brawls are up). Murder is down and manslaughter is steady.

The ABS is here: http://www.abs.gov.au/
The AIC is here: http://www.aic.gov.au

How about you read some facts instead of being an alarmist know-nothing?

Almost all reputable studies show that you are less likely to be a victim of a crime now than at any other time in Australia’s history.

The two things that have increased are people’s ill-founded belief that there is rampant lawlessness going on out there, and tabloid gutter style media scare campaigns.

#177
Lookout Smithers10:40 am, 09 May 12

screaming banshee said :

Lookout Smithers said :

johnboy said :

There’s no atrocity you won’t try and find an excuse for is there LS?

I haven’t ever tried to excuse any atrocity? Not even my own wrap sheet. I only try and point out that crime reporting is never accurate and people should approach with an open mind. No one likes horrific crimes in their community JB. I can’t judge anyone for their actions, what gives me the right? Or anyone else for that matter. JB you did not even have to courage to fess up to a recent error you made in reporting someone’s name . I know it happens and no reasonable person would have hung you for it at all. Yet you didn’t say a word on this site. I think maybe because you write so one sided on the issue of crimes and related events there is no way you can be seen as credible. No one is when it comes to judgement of others but for others themselves. Though it is very annoying having things published about you that are false and misleading. Particularly if you have yet to publicly comment on the matter. I won’t excuse anyone for bad deeds, mate the same goes for slandering someone else with only a blog to go on. Its a dogshit effort and the person with sound character will make the effort. I am a fan JB, don’t get me wrong. All things on this site a great.Even the obvious cops!!

My reading of those events is that ‘someone’ got his or her knickers in a twist over it and made a mountain out of a mole hill. I suspect that lack of the apology that you were clearly logging in every day to check for has more to do with the proceedings around the matter.

What were you reading ? Are you attacking my rambling? I do tend to go on.

#178
RaTTyRaTT11:04 am, 09 May 12

Worst thing about this sad affair, is that no one has actually learned from it. The evening following this, I was coming back from Queanbeyan down Hindmarsh, turning left onto Yamba (away from the hospital) and had to do an emergency brake, as I thought the coast was clear/relatively empty (enough space from oncoming cars.) Somehow a mysterious TOOL doing more than 100km/h past TCH who obviously didn’t want to miss the lights rotation decided he was more important. I ended up seeing him turning in Julia Flynn Ave, and then left into O’Malley entry.
The irony is that the front of his car was a most excellent Killing tool, as it was mostly covered up by one of the biggest RooBar’s (cattle bar anyone? whatever they call them.) Stretching from slightly outside the wheel flares and above the bonnet.

I think the only thing missing from this Tool was the nice bunch of aerials (CB, etc…) which I have seen decorate other such ute’s…

Where do these hick’s come from? I wouldn’t have been so pi$$ed if not less than 24 hours prior, some poor woman got killed in the place he was doing 100 in… (last I checked it was 60km/h in that zone…)

give me a freakin’ break… I think they put the damn point-point camera’s in the wrong place… should have put a fixed cam at 2 points along Yamba outside TCH. (start and 2/3 way through…)

#179
john87_no111:53 am, 09 May 12

Does anyone know if either women were covered under TCH current Collective Agreement for travel to and from work?

#180
bundah3:04 pm, 09 May 12

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Jim Jones said :

bundah said :

Given that crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase

It’s not.

It’s not?? is that the best you can do,how lame.It is an undeniable fact that violent crime and socially unacceptable behaviour is on the increase.Look at the statistics or spend some time on the streets and you might just have an epiphany!

What statistics? You mean ‘Today Tonight’ and talkback radio?

I look at the statistics regularly. Crime rates have been relatively stable (if anything, dropping) in Australia for a long time (there was a significant drop in the 1980s). There’s been a trend towards reduction in property theft and a slight rise in reported assault (firearm assault is down – pub brawls are up). Murder is down and manslaughter is steady.

The ABS is here: http://www.abs.gov.au/
The AIC is here: http://www.aic.gov.au

How about you read some facts instead of being an alarmist know-nothing?

Alarmist know-nothing?? well that was an ostentatious display of self- aggrandizement on your part.

http://www.aic.gov.au/en/statistics/violent%20crime/assault.aspx

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/alcohol-and-drugs-take-a-large-toll/story-fn5ftg6s-1226309473245

Ok while violent crime may have levelled out in the last year or two after having increased alarmingly over the preceding 15 years it is clearly obvious that socially unacceptable behaviour due predominantly to binge drinking has increased.I will take my cues from Giordian Fulde who is in the frontline and has a great deal of credibility unlike yourself!

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