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Parking, Parents with Prams Style

By 12 November 2012 156

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More often than not when I go to park in the Parents with Pram spots they are taken by people with no baby seat/capsule attachments on the back seat. I am used to seeing this disregard with legally designated parking like disabled spots so I don’t even blink when it comes to Parents with Prams. Yet this car today made me do a double take. The owners can’t even pretend to passing cars that there could possibly be a baby seat in it (unlike the equally guilty Hyandai Elantra that was parked in the other occupied spot).

Before I am called all sorts of charming names by trolls, in this particular instance we are talking about three modest Parents with Pram spots on the top level of the Canberra Centre carpark near Dendy. It is hardly a takeover from fascist NIMBY breeders.

And there is a purpose to these spots – they are wider than the standard spot so you can open the door enough to get a baby capsule out or an unwieldy toddler into a pram. I have learnt from experience that if all that is left are narrow spots with poles in them then its best to just drive out, as that capsule ain’t moving anywhere.

So to all those people out there who park in Parents with Prams and think they aren’t inconveniencing anyone, think again. It’s not nice manners!

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156 Responses to Parking, Parents with Prams Style
#1
NellyBean9:04 am, 12 Nov 12

Alfa Romeo GTV’s have a child seat anchor behind the headrest. one trim option had the option of having no passenger airbag. and there are strollers that perform second duty as car seats.

unlikely, but possible that this person had a baby with them.

#2
Squidward9:06 am, 12 Nov 12

It’s not illegal to park in parents with prams if you don’t have kids. I wonder how people managed before this?

Fyi I have a child myself and it doesn’t bother me where I park.

#3
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd9:54 am, 12 Nov 12

It’s not illegal, but it still makes you a huge pos if you park there and have no little ones with you.

#4
gentoopenguin9:56 am, 12 Nov 12

NellyBean said :

Alfa Romeo GTV’s have a child seat anchor behind the headrest. one trim option had the option of having no passenger airbag. and there are strollers that perform second duty as car seats.

unlikely, but possible that this person had a baby with them.

I checked, there were no anchor points installed…

#5
Martlark10:24 am, 12 Nov 12

Squidward said :

It’s not illegal to park in parents with prams if you don’t have kids. I wonder how people managed before this?…

It’s not illegal to go through the 12 items or less with 200 items either. These facilities have been put in place to make life easier for people trying to juggle kids, shopping prams and such. Abuse by selfish people who have decided to game the system may well end up in such parking places becoming part of the traffic law scene. That’s what happens when people don’t play nice.

#6
chewy1410:47 am, 12 Nov 12

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

#7
Solidarity10:48 am, 12 Nov 12

It says parents with prams, nothing about having the children with you!

The pram might be in the boot…

#8
Pitchka10:50 am, 12 Nov 12

Before i was a parent with a pram, i never noticed how many dead s***s parked there purely for convenience, as these spots are very close to major entrances.

Im not know for being overly loud (insert sarcastic emotican here), and i have no issue telling anyone who has just parked their car in said spot, on the top of my lungs, so others in the area can hear just how inconsiderate these f**ks are. And if they are of the ‘larger size’, ill also advise them that parking away from the entrance may be of some benefit to them.

Its almost as bad as peope parking on surburban streets to save money on parking, slash their tyres i say!

#9
Pitchka10:55 am, 12 Nov 12

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

#10
DrKoresh10:57 am, 12 Nov 12

What about people with prams who aren’t parents? This is just shameless discrimination, IMO, parents are not the only ones with kids.

#11
Pitchka10:58 am, 12 Nov 12

Martlark said :

Squidward said :

It’s not illegal to park in parents with prams if you don’t have kids. I wonder how people managed before this?…

It’s not illegal to go through the 12 items or less with 200 items either. These facilities have been put in place to make life easier for people trying to juggle kids, shopping prams and such. Abuse by selfish people who have decided to game the system may well end up in such parking places becoming part of the traffic law scene. That’s what happens when people don’t play nice.

+1, well said mate… :oP

#12
devils_advocate10:59 am, 12 Nov 12

Have some sympathy, poor dude is driving an alfa.

Most plausible explanation is, the engine and/or transmission lunched itself and that was the nearest space he could push it into to await the tow truck driver (any tow truck driver), all of whom he is on a first-name basis with.

Just because you have pushed out some crotch-fruit, doesn’t mean you can’t have some sympathy for people in worse plight than yourselves. From the majesty of your reliable, comfortable and economical japanese SUV, spare a thought for those gullible people that paid money for an italian car.

#13
devils_advocate11:00 am, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

It’s a form of disability, apparently. Or, just for the LOLs.

#14
Pitchka11:02 am, 12 Nov 12

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

#15
Sandman11:05 am, 12 Nov 12

It’s an Alfa, are you sure it wasn’t just broken down?

#16
DrKoresh11:06 am, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

#17
NoAddedMSG11:09 am, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

Before i was a parent with a pram, i never noticed how many dead s***s parked there purely for convenience, as these spots are very close to major entrances.

Im not know for being overly loud (insert sarcastic emotican here), and i have no issue telling anyone who has just parked their car in said spot, on the top of my lungs, so others in the area can hear just how inconsiderate these f**ks are. And if they are of the ‘larger size’, ill also advise them that parking away from the entrance may be of some benefit to them.

Its almost as bad as peope parking on surburban streets to save money on parking, slash their tyres i say!

You publicly comment to strangers about their weight? That is far worse than parking in the parents with prams spots.

I work with someone who has an autoimmune disease who lives with chronic joint pain and inflammation. Unsurprisingly, given how difficult moving around is for her, she’s overweight. She also has a permit to park in the disabled spots, because many days just walking around is a major challenge.

People leave nasty notes on her car and it is very distressing for her. Next time you are getting worked up about “fat people”, have a think about the range of chronic illnesses which affect people’s mobility and health, take a deep breath, and refrain from saying or doing something which could potentially add just another layer of difficulty to the life of someone whose life is tough enough already.

#18
devils_advocate11:14 am, 12 Nov 12

Sandman said :

It’s an Alfa, are you sure it wasn’t just broken down?

Too late champ, see comment 12 above :)

#19
Pitchka11:24 am, 12 Nov 12

DrKoresh said :

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

I know fat people with Disabled Parking Permits.. No other issues.

#20
devils_advocate11:24 am, 12 Nov 12

DrKoresh said :

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

1. can’t get past them on the escalators.
2. requires complex estimations of volume/mass to calculate whether it is safe to co-occupy elevators based on maximum load ratings
3. …

#21
devils_advocate11:40 am, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

So in summary, people with children face exactly the same types of inconvenience as those without children. Unless you think that getting run over by “people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot” is somehow less of a problem for childless individuals?

#22
Pitchka11:54 am, 12 Nov 12

devils_advocate said :

DrKoresh said :

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

1. can’t get past them on the escalators.
2. requires complex estimations of volume/mass to calculate whether it is safe to co-occupy elevators based on maximum load ratings
3. …

GOLD!

#23
esp12:08 pm, 12 Nov 12

So all I need is a pram in my vehicle ? I don’t actually need a kid with me, maybe just proof that I own a kid, like car registration papers perhaps. Then I can park there.

Pitchka ….. you should read this ……http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/disability-support-pension, while you walk from your carspace 4 km’s away because you would never stoop so low as to use a parents with pram carspace and because you are clearly concerned about the terrible impact obesity has on our medical / social welfare system…..

#24
Pitchka12:09 pm, 12 Nov 12

devils_advocate said :

Pitchka said :

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

So in summary, people with children face exactly the same types of inconvenience as those without children. Unless you think that getting run over by “people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot” is somehow less of a problem for childless individuals?

You make a great point, i digress. From now on, spots reserved for Senior Citizens are no longer for the elderly. Here i come!!!! And if anyone says anything, ill be sure to remind them that being old does not entitle you to special parking privelages, i should not be inconvenienced.

#25
Pitchka12:12 pm, 12 Nov 12

esp said :

So all I need is a pram in my vehicle ? I don’t actually need a kid with me, maybe just proof that I own a kid, like car registration papers perhaps. Then I can park there.

Pitchka ….. you should read this ……http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/disability-support-pension, while you walk from your carspace 4 km’s away because you would never stoop so low as to use a parents with pram carspace and because you are clearly concerned about the terrible impact obesity has on our medical / social welfare system…..

I do use parents with pram parking spaces, i am a parent with a pram. Learn how to read.

#26
esp12:16 pm, 12 Nov 12
#27
Tymefor12:21 pm, 12 Nov 12

oh noh!! someone stole your car park. Better ask for even more privledges. Because I don’t think your baby bonus/ paid parental leave, thousands of dollars of public funding to schools and access to pensions for those that need them are enough. I NEED MA CAR PARK. Notice how publically funded car parks don’t have PWP places. I wonder if it has anything to do with not playing favorites/ discrimating. Opposed by disabled parks, without which, most people with disabilities would not be able to access services. This does not hold true for parents with prams!

PWP parks are in commercial car parks only! which actually doesn’t really even make sense commercially. As a professional without children, I would hazard to guess, my disposable income outweighs a new family’s. So where is my preferential car park! Lets ask retailers, whose rents pay for those car parks, which customers they think should be given preference.

#28
Watson12:21 pm, 12 Nov 12

devils_advocate said :

So in summary, people with children face exactly the same types of inconvenience as those without children. Unless you think that getting run over by “people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot” is somehow less of a problem for childless individuals?

That’s what those ‘baby on board’ stickers are based on too. Because no one cares if they smash into a car only carrying adults, but being told about the baby in the car makes them pay attention.

I found it way scarier to walk through Fyshwick markets on a Sunday arvo with a newborn, with all the knife wielding fruit sellers and people bumping into you. I did occasionally use the PWP parks because I could, but I always felt a bit silly because being a parent was not a disability last time I checked.

#29
chewy1412:26 pm, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

devils_advocate said :

Pitchka said :

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

So in summary, people with children face exactly the same types of inconvenience as those without children. Unless you think that getting run over by “people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot” is somehow less of a problem for childless individuals?

You make a great point, i digress. From now on, spots reserved for Senior Citizens are no longer for the elderly. Here i come!!!! And if anyone says anything, ill be sure to remind them that being old does not entitle you to special parking privelages, i should not be inconvenienced.

So you’re comparing a parent to seniors and disabled people that have mobility problems?

No actually you’re right, the reduced mental capacity that occurs to a lot of parents should definitely entitle you not to have to walk across a carpark just like everyone else.

You should never be inconvenienced oh mighty and entitled breeder.

#30
devils_advocate12:35 pm, 12 Nov 12

Pitchka said :

You make a great point, i digress. From now on, spots reserved for Senior Citizens are no longer for the elderly. Here i come!!!! And if anyone says anything, ill be sure to remind them that being old does not entitle you to special parking privelages, i should not be inconvenienced.

I wasn’t aware there were spots reserved for senior citizens per se. I was aware that being old often exposes people to conditions that render them disabled (i.e. many users of disabled spots happen to be elderly) but I wasn’t aware people were getting special spots based purely on their age. I was about to ask how such a thing could be policed, but suppose people like the OP, who were checking for anchor points on the alfa, would take it upon themselves to check the ID of anyone getting out of a car that didn’t bear the requisite physical hallmarks of such advanced aged (Given I didn’t know these spots existed, I obviously don’t know what that age is).

But in any case, if an elderly person had mobility issues, this would be covered under the disability scheme.

In that basis, since mobility challenged individuals are already catered for, I agree that there should not be parking reserved for seniors who are otherwise mobile, i.e. based purely on the fact they are seniors.

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