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Parking, Parents with Prams Style

By gentoopenguin - 12 November 2012 156

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More often than not when I go to park in the Parents with Pram spots they are taken by people with no baby seat/capsule attachments on the back seat. I am used to seeing this disregard with legally designated parking like disabled spots so I don’t even blink when it comes to Parents with Prams. Yet this car today made me do a double take. The owners can’t even pretend to passing cars that there could possibly be a baby seat in it (unlike the equally guilty Hyandai Elantra that was parked in the other occupied spot).

Before I am called all sorts of charming names by trolls, in this particular instance we are talking about three modest Parents with Pram spots on the top level of the Canberra Centre carpark near Dendy. It is hardly a takeover from fascist NIMBY breeders.

And there is a purpose to these spots – they are wider than the standard spot so you can open the door enough to get a baby capsule out or an unwieldy toddler into a pram. I have learnt from experience that if all that is left are narrow spots with poles in them then its best to just drive out, as that capsule ain’t moving anywhere.

So to all those people out there who park in Parents with Prams and think they aren’t inconveniencing anyone, think again. It’s not nice manners!

What’s Your opinion?


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Parking, Parents with Prams Style
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devils_advocate 12:37 pm
12 Nov 12
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Watson said :

… being a parent was not a disability last time I checked.

Dear Lord. It is probably sad to admit it, but – you can’t believe how gratifying it is to hear a parent say (read a parent type) this.

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sepi 12:51 pm
12 Nov 12
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People with prams are doing well to get out of the house some days. They need all the help they can get. And they do tend to also hang around malls spending money.

Person without pram: park at the back and stroll to shops and back. Noice.

Person with pram/kids/babies trying to get back to car with couple of small bags of shopping:
Move at snail’s pace thru carpark with screaming toddler trying to sit on the ground and preschooler pushing the pram – mostly not towards other people or fast moving cars. Drop some shopping – leave it there – no hands to pick it up. Open door and shove screaming toddler in without trapping flailing body parts, go around to other passenger door, find you can’t open it wide enough as too close to next car. Instruct preschooler to mind baby in pram, while traffic streams by – no room next to car for pram. Reef toddler out of car again, put him in front seat as can’t be trusted near cars, reach across length of back seat to dump yelling baby in to capsule. Get big one in telling her to get in her seat and put on her straps, shut door, go back around to see pram rolling gently towards row of car, retrieve and put in boot. Strap/buckle oldest in, realise toddler is still in front, grab him and put in third car seat. I’ve forgotten to do up big strap on little one’s rear facing seat, put back out reaching from front seat to tighten that, go back to big one to give her the drink she’s dropped/thrown on the floor and is yelling about, confiscate drink from toddler who is feeding it to dolly (all over car) go back to boot, go back to drivers seat, get in put own seatbelt on, start car, realise parking exit ticket is in boot, get out, go back to boot, give dirty look to twit waiting impatiently for car spot, pray we get out of carpark within designated time period after paying prior to exit. Vow never to shop again.

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esp 12:59 pm
12 Nov 12
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Pitchka said :

esp said :

So all I need is a pram in my vehicle ? I don’t actually need a kid with me, maybe just proof that I own a kid, like car registration papers perhaps. Then I can park there.

Pitchka ….. you should read this ……http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/disability-support-pension, while you walk from your carspace 4 km’s away because you would never stoop so low as to use a parents with pram carspace and because you are clearly concerned about the terrible impact obesity has on our medical / social welfare system…..

I do use parents with pram parking spaces, i am a parent with a pram. Learn how to read.

Sorry, I got stuck on the

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

Anything you said before or after that became obsolete…. or obese because it got to park so close to fast food outlets

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Charlie57 1:19 pm
12 Nov 12
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Pitchka said :

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

Most people will probably miss your sarcasm as that is exactly what they think the PWP parks are for (your point exactly I guess). Let me make it clear: PWP parks are not about convenience, they are about SAFETY. These parks are about providing a safe place to load/unload your children, and then about getting them off the road as soon as possible. Clearly though, convenience is a biproduct.

Children are still learning about the world including road safety. Some of them don’t have the presence of mind not to wander in front of a passing car. Maybe they dropped a ball and are just trying to pick it up.

Now, parenting is important and hopefully all parents do their utmost to protect and teach their children to be safe, but giving them a helping hand is a good thing for society to do. This is what society is for. I understand if some people out there choose not to have children, but you are part of a society that NEEDS to have children. Your part in that society is parking 20m further away from the door.

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Pitchka 1:40 pm
12 Nov 12
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Charlie57 said :

Pitchka said :

chewy14 said :

Suck it up.

It’s not like your legs stop working when you have kids – use them.

+1.. Totally agree. I for one see no issue with having to carry a newborn half the length of a carpark with vehicles moving all around you, people driving like dicks becasue they just saw someone pulling out of a car spot.. Its not as thoe it is poses any safety issues, hence why the PWP parking spots are about 5 minutes from the entrance, adjacent to a padestrian crossing..
PWP parking is about convenience, not about being considerate for those who have a genuine need for that car park, yes?

Most people will probably miss your sarcasm as that is exactly what they think the PWP parks are for (your point exactly I guess). Let me make it clear: PWP parks are not about convenience, they are about SAFETY. These parks are about providing a safe place to load/unload your children, and then about getting them off the road as soon as possible. Clearly though, convenience is a biproduct.

Children are still learning about the world including road safety. Some of them don’t have the presence of mind not to wander in front of a passing car. Maybe they dropped a ball and are just trying to pick it up.

Now, parenting is important and hopefully all parents do their utmost to protect and teach their children to be safe, but giving them a helping hand is a good thing for society to do. This is what society is for. I understand if some people out there choose not to have children, but you are part of a society that NEEDS to have children. Your part in that society is parking 20m further away from the door.

STOP IT, YOUR MAKING SENSE!!!!

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TheDancingDjinn 1:56 pm
12 Nov 12
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Pitchka said :

DrKoresh said :

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

I know fat people with Disabled Parking Permits.. No other issues.

Maybe you don’t now about those “other issues” because you really don’t seem like a decent person to know – from what you exhibit here anyways, I wouldn’t suggest people share anything with someone like you.

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Pitchka 2:09 pm
12 Nov 12
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TheDancingDjinn said :

Pitchka said :

DrKoresh said :

Pitchka said :

Id like to know why fat people are entitled to disabled parking permits?

I doubt people get them just for being fat, I’ll think you’ll find that disabled people tend to be fat more often than not because, funnily enough, being disabled makes it difficult to exercise. What exactly is your problem with fat people?

I know fat people with Disabled Parking Permits.. No other issues.

Maybe you don’t now about those “other issues” because you really don’t seem like a decent person to know – from what you exhibit here anyways, I wouldn’t suggest people share anything with someone like you.

Sharing is caring, open up to me, and ill tell you what i really think…

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esp 2:14 pm
12 Nov 12
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Pitchka said :

………………….

Did someone say something ?

It’s amazing anyone pre 1990 is still alive…. like all those safety issues …… dropping balls, running through the house with scissors, eating lead paint ….. OMFG ……

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Pitchka 2:33 pm
12 Nov 12
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esp said :

Pitchka said :

………………….

Did someone say something ?

It’s amazing anyone pre 1990 is still alive…. like all those safety issues …… dropping balls, running through the house with scissors, eating lead paint ….. OMFG ……

Plenty of typing, not much TALKING. Derrrrrr.

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Pork Hunt 2:34 pm
12 Nov 12
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sepi said :

People with prams are doing well to get out of the house some days. They need all the help they can get. And they do tend to also hang around malls spending money.

Person without pram: park at the back and stroll to shops and back. Noice.

Person with pram/kids/babies trying to get back to car with couple of small bags of shopping:
Move at snail’s pace thru carpark with screaming toddler trying to sit on the ground and preschooler pushing the pram – mostly not towards other people or fast moving cars. Drop some shopping – leave it there – no hands to pick it up. Open door and shove screaming toddler in without trapping flailing body parts, go around to other passenger door, find you can’t open it wide enough as too close to next car. Instruct preschooler to mind baby in pram, while traffic streams by – no room next to car for pram. Reef toddler out of car again, put him in front seat as can’t be trusted near cars, reach across length of back seat to dump yelling baby in to capsule. Get big one in telling her to get in her seat and put on her straps, shut door, go back around to see pram rolling gently towards row of car, retrieve and put in boot. Strap/buckle oldest in, realise toddler is still in front, grab him and put in third car seat. I’ve forgotten to do up big strap on little one’s rear facing seat, put back out reaching from front seat to tighten that, go back to big one to give her the drink she’s dropped/thrown on the floor and is yelling about, confiscate drink from toddler who is feeding it to dolly (all over car) go back to boot, go back to drivers seat, get in put own seatbelt on, start car, realise parking exit ticket is in boot, get out, go back to boot, give dirty look to twit waiting impatiently for car spot, pray we get out of carpark within designated time period after paying prior to exit. Vow never to shop again.

If it’s that hard, don’t breed.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 2:40 pm
12 Nov 12
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You should be greatful for parents with pram spaces. The wider parks mean I don’t have to open my door into yours and scratch or dent your car when you park to close and I need to get my kids in(this happens a lot)

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esp 2:52 pm
12 Nov 12
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Pitchka said :

esp said :

Pitchka said :

………………….

Did someone say something ?

It’s amazing anyone pre 1990 is still alive…. like all those safety issues …… dropping balls, running through the house with scissors, eating lead paint ….. OMFG ……

Plenty of typing, not much TALKING. Derrrrrr.

Read….. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1370.0~2010~Chapter~Road%20safety%20%284.9.2%29

My bad. It’s for the greater good, is that too much talking for you ?

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poetix 3:14 pm
12 Nov 12
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It’s just the shops pandering to their main shopping market, you know. During the day, this is often bored mothers with babies, some of whom will buy more if they have less distance to transport it. (This comment brought to you by Middle Class Marxists R Us.)

I wouldn’t park in such a space because it is hard work putting up or collapsing a pram, and in case some feral in a pink track suit unleashed her vocab at me. This happened once when I was picking my daughter up from Mr Poetix at the shops. She didn’t seem to understand that I would soon be in possession of a pram with a baby in it. I still shudder at the memory.

I didn’t specifically look for such spaces in general, but I only had one child, which is a lot easier.

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devils_advocate 3:29 pm
12 Nov 12
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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

You should be greatful for parents with pram spaces. The wider parks mean I don’t have to open my door into yours and scratch or dent your car when you park to close and I need to get my kids in(this happens a lot)

Translation: Because I have children I am more than willing to intentionally vandalise your car, or negligently allow those under my care to do so. Accordingly, you should afford me special privileges, and be happy about doing so, even at the expense of your own convenience, so as to prevent me from engaging in vandalism.

With the quality of that logic you could be an ACT magistrate.

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devils_advocate 3:37 pm
12 Nov 12
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esp said :

Pitchka said :

esp said :

Pitchka said :

………………….

Did someone say something ?

It’s amazing anyone pre 1990 is still alive…. like all those safety issues …… dropping balls, running through the house with scissors, eating lead paint ….. OMFG ……

Plenty of typing, not much TALKING. Derrrrrr.

Read….. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1370.0~2010~Chapter~Road%20safety%20%284.9.2%29

My bad. It’s for the greater good, is that too much talking for you ?

It’s not for the greater good.

Firstly I don’t accept the premise that these new spaces are required for safety, what is required is the same common sense by everybody that allowed previous generations to survive without “PWP” spaces.

Secondly, even if it is a safety issue, don’t for a second pretend it is society’s problem. Breeding creates purely private benefits for parents, and externalises costs (of which this is just one more) on the rest of the population. We don’t really need children from any societal perspective. It is far more efficient to import fully grown, and healthy, labour units from overseas and have then turn up ready to work and pay taxes.

So speaking for myself, feel free not to do me any favours.

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