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Petrol rip-off continues….

By Mr Gillespie - 23 June 2012 38

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Sydney is enjoying falling petrol prices while Canberrans continue to be slugged 30¢/litre extra? How is it that they pay just $1.20 a litre while we still have to pay $1.50 every time we have to fill up?

If anyone else has noticed this rather large difference, why isn’t anyone rising up in protest against this disgrace?

Has anyone ever asked the petrol station attendant or store manager why they have to pay this much while Sydneysiders enjoy their weeks in the sun in lower fuel prices? If so, please report to us how they explain to you the price difference in Canberra compared to Sydney.

What’s Your opinion?


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38 Responses to
Petrol rip-off continues….
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Rawhide Kid Part3 2:47 pm
23 Jun 12
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Simple….. No Competition here.

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Deref 3:33 pm
23 Jun 12
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It’s no good asking the people at the servo. They’re just charging what they’re told to charge.

The problem’s not lack of competition – it’s collusion.

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eq2 3:37 pm
23 Jun 12
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Completely exaggerating the price differences doesn’t help encourage constructive discussion around this emotive issue. Today the average price in Sydney is $1.30 and in Canberra it’s $1.45 (motormouth.com.au). That is half the difference 30 cent represented in your original post.

The current 15 cent premium in Canberra could be attributed to a range of different factors including:
Local retail competition
Wholesale competition
Sales volume
Supply/Demand cycles
Freight costs
See the ACCC website for more info: http://www.accc.gov.au/fuel

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Pork Hunt 5:32 pm
23 Jun 12
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Further to Mr Gillespie’s excellent question, why is petrol the only consumer (?) product sold the way that it is?
The price of piss at the grog shop doesn’t wax and wane (specials aside).
The price of Kleenex date rolls doesn’t swing wildly?
Moo juice is the same price day in day out.
Pedigree (in case there are pensioners reading this), was the same price last week as it is this week and will be next week.

WTF is it with petrol?

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curlylocks 6:22 pm
23 Jun 12
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Yes please do not ask the poor console operator. Mr curlylocks is a console operator and half the time they are actually paying more for it than what you are purchasing it for. And no we do not get a discount we pay the same as you.

Its horrible that we pay more for the petrol but as someone else has mentioned, there is no competition here sucks really!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Growling Ferret 6:43 pm
23 Jun 12
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Mr Gillespie doesn’t deal in facts or truth. 2CC is all MG needs

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steveu 9:15 pm
23 Jun 12
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Priced at what the market is willing to bear. Like most things.

Excuses like ‘priced so we will value the resource’ may also be inserted here by the oil companies and government.

OPEC and the middle east have us by the balls. They refuse to let us join despite the fact we produce a fair bit of oil here in and around AU ourselves.

I will be very happy when the day comes that we are not dependant on the refined product of the black stuff. Who knows we may even find ourselves not being dragged into war with the US as much as well?

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Slumlord 9:59 pm
23 Jun 12
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As a bit of a side comment, Canberra has to be the most apathetic town in the world.

We put up with every project being undertaken by the ACT government turning into a complete fark up while barely raising an eyebrow. And we put up with this petrol rort. What is it with people in this place? As Mark Gasnier once put it – FIRE UP!

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:53 pm
23 Jun 12
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Mr Gillespie lol

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arescarti42 12:54 am
24 Jun 12
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Growling Ferret said :

Mr Gillespie doesn’t deal in facts or truth. 2CC is all MG needs

I’d say he’s probably a big fan of the quality journalism provided by the likes of A Current Affair and Today Tonight as well.

Pork Hunt said :

Further to Mr Gillespie’s excellent question, why is petrol the only consumer (?) product sold the way that it is?
The price of piss at the grog shop doesn’t wax and wane (specials aside).
The price of Kleenex date rolls doesn’t swing wildly?
Moo juice is the same price day in day out.
Pedigree (in case there are pensioners reading this), was the same price last week as it is this week and will be next week.

WTF is it with petrol?

Petrol is made from oil, and oil is an internationally traded commodity for which there is highly variable demand, and supply that is not very responsive to price changes. Also most of it comes from places with lots of conflict and unstable governments which don’t like us very much, which doesn’t help the stability and reliability of supply.

None of those points apply to things like Kleenex shit tickets or the like.

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DanielK 2:54 am
24 Jun 12
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Of course my fellow posters have dawned on the Cba/Sydney/-regional NSW petrol price differences now, when Cba is paying at least5cmore per litre. Where were you when the price was at least 5c per litre in Cbas favour during April/may??

The petrol price game played by the majors is designed to keep punters concerned with the day to day price of petrol and not with the fact that it differs greatly with any measure it should be compared with eg Singapore TAPIS etc. This Game is statistical game ala Monte Carlo Simulation to obscure the real relationship between oil cost and petrol price to allow companiestiprice gouge without having to consider true prices.

soMrGilespie and his kindred spirits continue to bark up the tree the companies want us to, thereby postulating easily discountable bullshit,when we should beasking why thepricecycle?

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aevans 9:19 am
24 Jun 12
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Pork Hunt said :

Further to Mr Gillespie’s excellent question, why is petrol the only consumer (?) product sold the way that it is?
The price of piss at the grog shop doesn’t wax and wane (specials aside).
The price of Kleenex date rolls doesn’t swing wildly?
Moo juice is the same price day in day out.
Pedigree (in case there are pensioners reading this), was the same price last week as it is this week and will be next week.

WTF is it with petrol?

Petrol is made from oil, and oil is an internationally traded commodity for which there is highly variable demand, and supply that is not very responsive to price changes. Also most of it comes from places with lots of conflict and unstable governments which don’t like us very much, which doesn’t help the stability and reliability of supply.

None of those points apply to things like Kleenex shit tickets or the like.

The cost differences in Petrol related to international crude supply do not wax and wane on a weekly basis. The original point about why does it do this in Australia is a valid point; your response it totally irrelevant. Australian supply is affected by the fact that we have a very limited number of refineries and petrol retail outlets (and limited supply lines, trucks, which possibly could cause the price to vary weekly). Having said that, there is more evidence to support the idea of collusion within this market, than there is that strife in Iran is causing Canberra’s petrol to be pricer than Sydney’s.

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aevans 9:21 am
24 Jun 12
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aevans said :

Pork Hunt said :

Pork Hunt said :

Further to Mr Gillespie’s excellent question, why is petrol the only consumer (?) product sold the way that it is?
The price of piss at the grog shop doesn’t wax and wane (specials aside).
The price of Kleenex date rolls doesn’t swing wildly?
Moo juice is the same price day in day out.
Pedigree (in case there are pensioners reading this), was the same price last week as it is this week and will be next week.

WTF is it with petrol?

Petrol is made from oil, and oil is an internationally traded commodity for which there is highly variable demand, and supply that is not very responsive to price changes. Also most of it comes from places with lots of conflict and unstable governments which don’t like us very much, which doesn’t help the stability and reliability of supply.

None of those points apply to things like Kleenex shit tickets or the like.

The cost differences in Petrol related to international crude supply do not wax and wane on a weekly basis. The original point about why does it do this in Australia is a valid point; your response it totally irrelevant. Australian supply is affected by the fact that we have a very limited number of refineries and petrol retail outlets (and limited supply lines, trucks, which possibly could cause the price to vary weekly). Having said that, there is more evidence to support the idea of collusion within this market, than there is that strife in Iran is causing Canberra’s petrol to be pricer than Sydney’s.

aevans said :

Pork Hunt said :

Pork Hunt said :

Further to Mr Gillespie’s excellent question, why is petrol the only consumer (?) product sold the way that it is?
The price of piss at the grog shop doesn’t wax and wane (specials aside).
The price of Kleenex date rolls doesn’t swing wildly?
Moo juice is the same price day in day out.
Pedigree (in case there are pensioners reading this), was the same price last week as it is this week and will be next week.

WTF is it with petrol?

Petrol is made from oil, and oil is an internationally traded commodity for which there is highly variable demand, and supply that is not very responsive to price changes. Also most of it comes from places with lots of conflict and unstable governments which don’t like us very much, which doesn’t help the stability and reliability of supply.

None of those points apply to things like Kleenex shit tickets or the like.

The cost differences in Petrol related to international crude supply do not wax and wane on a weekly basis. The original point about why does it do this in Australia is a valid point; your response it totally irrelevant. Australian supply is affected by the fact that we have a very limited number of refineries and petrol retail outlets (and limited supply lines, trucks, which possibly could cause the price to vary weekly). Having said that, there is more evidence to support the idea of collusion within this market, than there is that strife in Iran is causing Canberra’s petrol to be pricer than Sydney’s.

The last paragraph is my comment to arescarti42’s comment … not sure why the quote’s on arescarti42’s words did not come through.

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patrick_keogh 12:08 pm
24 Jun 12
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Slumlord said :

As a bit of a side comment, Canberra has to be the most apathetic town in the world.

Who cares if we are apathetic? At least we are good at something.

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wildturkeycanoe 1:12 pm
24 Jun 12
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I got ripped off yesterday. Pressed the $20 limit on the bowser, sat back and waited for it to finish. It went over by 11 cents!!! I tried to explain I only wanted $20 and the machine stuffed up, he wouldn’t listen. What would have happened if it went $5 over, or $30 over? I’m glad I had 10c in my back pocket or I’d have had to walk 30km home to get some change.

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