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Pogos turning the tide in the war upon the Zeddites

By johnboy - 2 March 2013 30

The Canberra Times has a confused account of where the pre-selection War in Heaven (apparently conducted in the afterlife) for the Liberals Senate spot is up to.

Many Pogo* members excluded from voting by Zeddite manipulation (including Big Bob Winnel) have now got themselves some voting rights and it appears there will be another pre-selection vote.

Meanwhile the Beard Himself says he’s only fighting on because he loves democracy.

The ugly prospect now faces the Legislative Assembly Liberals of what to do with a Zed Defeated sulking on the back bench.

One also has to wonder how long the Zeddites can maintain their lock on party offices in the face of rank and file hostility such has been stirred up?

* Pogonophile: One who loves or studies beards.

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Pogos turning the tide in the war upon the Zeddites
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LSWCHP 6:40 pm
02 Mar 13
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There’s a huge amount of plainly evident animosity within the local libs, combined with self serving ambition and cynicism. The entire crew seems dysfunctional. I like Jeremy Hanson, but the rabble surrounding and supporting him don’t make me want to vote for him.

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

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Pork Hunt 8:23 pm
02 Mar 13
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I see what you mean LSWCHP (perhaps one day you will reveal all regarding your user name).
Hitler, on the other hand, was surrounded by brilliant Generals but was a tosser himself.

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Aeek 8:33 pm
02 Mar 13
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Which is the most fun, Zed gets dumped and has to reset to the Assembly,
or Zed gets up and gets rolled by Humpries ?

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Dilandach 8:57 pm
02 Mar 13
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LSWCHP said :

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

Not too long ago, politicians were people who were nearing the end of their working life. They had accumulated experience with knowledge and with that were moving into politics so that the community/country could benefit from their many years in the real world, dealing with real people.

Now we’ve got people that have never worked a job outside of the political system. It goes from University with young libs/labor, local council, adviser to a sitting member then a sitting member themselves.

The professional politician. A foot never placed in the real world, making decisions on what is best for the party first and the rest of us second.

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Alderney 8:57 pm
02 Mar 13
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LSWCHP said :

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

You don’t know many politicians do you. All the talk of altruism and idealism is just that.

Think of that kid in school who always knew the right thing to say no matter what. Now picture him/her on the public teat.

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cadbary 9:21 pm
02 Mar 13
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It would appear that Zed’s control of the ACT Liberals is already slipping
away. His preferred candidate for the Presidency of the Southern Electorate
Branch (SEB), another Assembly staffer, was defeated at Thursday’s Southern
Electorate Branch meeting by a quality, independent candidate, who will
bring some professionalism to a Management Committee comprised of MLAs,
their staff and factional flunkies who have united to rocket Zed into the
Senate.

Johnboy is right. The vast bulk of party members, now known as the
disaffected rump, are ready to rise up. I predict that the first to be
targeted will be the Chair of the Women’s Council, an Alistair Coe staffer,
followed closely behind by President Tio Faulkner himself (also a staffer),
Vice President John Cziesla and Treasurer Jimmy Kiplox. Robert Gunning,
Chair of the Northern Electorate Branch is also in for the chop, given
perceptions of his role in resisting calls for a fair preselection.

The fact that Zed and Brendan Smyth have lost control of the SEB is
astonishing. If Zed’s own branch has lost interest in him, he will have no
hope in convincing the older, more conservative members of the CEB and NEB
that he is hot stuff.

The amazing story out of this current brouhaha is the comeback of former
party President Gary Kent. Kent has blitzed the party and the media with a
relentless campaign exposing the dodgy doings in head office. Described
several years ago by Alistair Coe as a spent force, Kent has bounced back
as possibly the most powerful player in the Division. Coe and the other
Liberal MLAs are being besieged by angry party members for their role in the
Zed coup and they seem genuinely bewildered by their complete misreading of
the party rank and file.

Now speculation swirls about the identity of the new general secretary of
the Canberra Liberals. At last weekend’s preselection, Faulkner announced
that former Federal MP and High Commissioner to South Africa David Connolly
would start in this role last Monday. Since then, Faulkner has written to
members on behalf of an unnamed general secretary on several matters but
calls and emails to this individual are neither acknowledged nor returned.
This shadowy individual, if indeed the Connolly appointment ever proceeded,
will be responsible for conducting the Liberal’s special meeting on 15 March
and any ensuing preselection. Hopefully he will take human form before then
to enable him to do his job!

Zed must be beside himself. His tilt at the Senate is turning to crap
faster than it takes to say ‘Young Liberal’.

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damien haas 11:04 am
03 Mar 13
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Shakespeare provides advice on matters of this nature:

If it were done when ’tis done, then ’twere well. It were done quickly

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LiberalTruth 6:22 pm
03 Mar 13
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cadbary said :

It would appear that Zed’s control of the ACT Liberals is already slipping
away. His preferred candidate for the Presidency of the Southern Electorate
Branch (SEB), another Assembly staffer, was defeated at Thursday’s Southern
Electorate Branch meeting by a quality, independent candidate, who will
bring some professionalism to a Management Committee comprised of MLAs,
their staff and factional flunkies who have united to rocket Zed into the
Senate.

Johnboy is right. The vast bulk of party members, now known as the
disaffected rump, are ready to rise up. I predict that the first to be
targeted will be the Chair of the Women’s Council, an Alistair Coe staffer,
followed closely behind by President Tio Faulkner himself (also a staffer),
Vice President John Cziesla and Treasurer Jimmy Kiplox. Robert Gunning,
Chair of the Northern Electorate Branch is also in for the chop, given
perceptions of his role in resisting calls for a fair preselection.

The fact that Zed and Brendan Smyth have lost control of the SEB is
astonishing. If Zed’s own branch has lost interest in him, he will have no
hope in convincing the older, more conservative members of the CEB and NEB
that he is hot stuff.

The amazing story out of this current brouhaha is the comeback of former
party President Gary Kent. Kent has blitzed the party and the media with a
relentless campaign exposing the dodgy doings in head office. Described
several years ago by Alistair Coe as a spent force, Kent has bounced back
as possibly the most powerful player in the Division. Coe and the other
Liberal MLAs are being besieged by angry party members for their role in the
Zed coup and they seem genuinely bewildered by their complete misreading of
the party rank and file.

Now speculation swirls about the identity of the new general secretary of
the Canberra Liberals. At last weekend’s preselection, Faulkner announced
that former Federal MP and High Commissioner to South Africa David Connolly
would start in this role last Monday. Since then, Faulkner has written to
members on behalf of an unnamed general secretary on several matters but
calls and emails to this individual are neither acknowledged nor returned.
This shadowy individual, if indeed the Connolly appointment ever proceeded,
will be responsible for conducting the Liberal’s special meeting on 15 March
and any ensuing preselection. Hopefully he will take human form before then
to enable him to do his job!

Zed must be beside himself. His tilt at the Senate is turning to crap
faster than it takes to say ‘Young Liberal’.

This is one of the most accurate posts i have ever read on the whole saga

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LSWCHP 9:03 pm
03 Mar 13
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Alderney said :

LSWCHP said :

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

You don’t know many politicians do you. All the talk of altruism and idealism is just that.

Think of that kid in school who always knew the right thing to say no matter what. Now picture him/her on the public teat.

Hmmm…One of my uncles was a minister in the Howard Government, I’ve shaken hands with JW Howard himself, one of my old mates was a one-time Liberal candidate for the House of Reps in the ACT and then senior ministerial staffer, another mate was a mover and shaker in the ACT Young Libs back in the ’80s and I’ve met Fitzgibbon, Clare and a swag of other Defence related politicians. I’ve even met Gary Humphries.

I could go on and on, but I won’t belabor the point that I’ve known quite a few politicians of all stripes over the years, and very little wool has been pulled over my eyes in that time.

Anyway, I think we’re singing the same song. They may have forgotten it, or maybe they never even knew it in the first place, but their job is supposed to be looking after the members of the community, not looking after themselves. This doesn’t seem to how their thoughts and actions are operating at the moment.

Zed strongly reminds me of that Italian cruise boat skipper who drove his great ship onto the rocks while showing off to the crowd ashore. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and all that…:-)

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LSWCHP 9:19 pm
03 Mar 13
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Pork Hunt said :

I see what you mean LSWCHP (perhaps one day you will reveal all regarding your user name).

Ahhh…if I did that, the ACT Liberal Party wet work crew would be tooled up and on my trail before you could say “Termination With Extreme Prejudice”. It’s not that I’m afraid of them. It just seems to me that if their termination teams are as competent as the rest of the party machinery, they’d all be walking around town shooting themselves in the feet and legs, or shooting each other, or tripping over banana skins and stuff like that, and innocent people might get hurt while bent over laughing at them.

If they really want to find me, I’ll be the large smiling bloke at the beer festival next Saturday.

:-)

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Pork Hunt 9:57 pm
03 Mar 13
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LSWCHP said :

Pork Hunt said :

I see what you mean LSWCHP (perhaps one day you will reveal all regarding your user name).

Ahhh…if I did that, the ACT Liberal Party wet work crew would be tooled up and on my trail before you could say “Termination With Extreme Prejudice”. It’s not that I’m afraid of them. It just seems to me that if their termination teams are as competent as the rest of the party machinery, they’d all be walking around town shooting themselves in the feet and legs, or shooting each other, or tripping over banana skins and stuff like that, and innocent people might get hurt while bent over laughing at them.

If they really want to find me, I’ll be the large smiling bloke at the beer festival next Saturday.

:-)

I’ve been trying to come up with various military acronyms for LSWCHP without success…
Having said that, the phone rang at 34 Squadron VIP Transport one day and I answered “34 Sqn, Corporal Pork Hunt, we put the pee in VIP”. One of the engineering officers heard it and indeed peed himself laughing…

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Thumper 9:21 am
04 Mar 13
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LSWCHP said :

Alderney said :

LSWCHP said :

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

You don’t know many politicians do you. All the talk of altruism and idealism is just that.

Think of that kid in school who always knew the right thing to say no matter what. Now picture him/her on the public teat.

Hmmm…One of my uncles was a minister in the Howard Government, I’ve shaken hands with JW Howard himself, one of my old mates was a one-time Liberal candidate for the House of Reps in the ACT and then senior ministerial staffer, another mate was a mover and shaker in the ACT Young Libs back in the ’80s and I’ve met Fitzgibbon, Clare and a swag of other Defence related politicians. I’ve even met Gary Humphries.

I could go on and on, but I won’t belabor the point that I’ve known quite a few politicians of all stripes over the years, and very little wool has been pulled over my eyes in that time.

Anyway, I think we’re singing the same song. They may have forgotten it, or maybe they never even knew it in the first place, but their job is supposed to be looking after the members of the community, not looking after themselves. This doesn’t seem to how their thoughts and actions are operating at the moment.

Zed strongly reminds me of that Italian cruise boat skipper who drove his great ship onto the rocks while showing off to the crowd ashore. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and all that…:-)

Dirty, selfish politics by Seselja.

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DisaffectedRump 9:36 am
04 Mar 13
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Thumper said :

LSWCHP said :

Alderney said :

LSWCHP said :

They all (or most) seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the activity is the benefit of civil society, not advancing their careers and lining their pockets while exercising power over people.

You don’t know many politicians do you. All the talk of altruism and idealism is just that.

Think of that kid in school who always knew the right thing to say no matter what. Now picture him/her on the public teat.

Hmmm…One of my uncles was a minister in the Howard Government, I’ve shaken hands with JW Howard himself, one of my old mates was a one-time Liberal candidate for the House of Reps in the ACT and then senior ministerial staffer, another mate was a mover and shaker in the ACT Young Libs back in the ’80s and I’ve met Fitzgibbon, Clare and a swag of other Defence related politicians. I’ve even met Gary Humphries.

I could go on and on, but I won’t belabor the point that I’ve known quite a few politicians of all stripes over the years, and very little wool has been pulled over my eyes in that time.

Anyway, I think we’re singing the same song. They may have forgotten it, or maybe they never even knew it in the first place, but their job is supposed to be looking after the members of the community, not looking after themselves. This doesn’t seem to how their thoughts and actions are operating at the moment.

Zed strongly reminds me of that Italian cruise boat skipper who drove his great ship onto the rocks while showing off to the crowd ashore. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and all that…:-)

Dirty, selfish politics by Seselja.

Too true. And he’s going to get his comeuppance very soon.

I hear word that the loser of the SEB election (a Zed supporter and Young Liberal) is desperately trying to get the entire meeting declared invalid – disenfranchising nearly 170 electors in one fell swoop. Further, several Young Liberals received an SMS on the day of their meeting, advising them to not attend their own meeting, so as to force a failed quorum and an invalid meeting – disenfranchising Margaret Reid, amongst others.

I hear word that Margaret was utterly filthy about the YLs performance and it was plain to all and sundry what was going on.

Let me say that again for clarity – the Young Liberals deliberately threw quorum so as to disenfranchise a number of electors in the upcoming Divisional Council Meeting. These kids are a disgrace to the Party and bring nothing but shame on themselves.

Dear YLs – you are not master tacticians.

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Kim F 9:53 am
04 Mar 13
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LSWCHP = Leading Sea Woman California Highway Patrol ??????

I really do wonder if Zed gets rolled, will he expect the leadership back of the ACT Libs?

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DisaffectedRump 10:30 am
04 Mar 13
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Kim F said :

LSWCHP = Leading Sea Woman California Highway Patrol ??????

I really do wonder if Zed gets rolled, will he expect the leadership back of the ACT Libs?

Extremely unlikely. And I doubt that the Party room would allow it.

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