HardBallGets said :

simplechick said :

It was a pedophile who was assulted .. If you ask me he deserves everything he gets!

I assume you’re talking about compensation?

Regardless of the offences for which he is incarcerated, he’s entitled to safety. And for the neanderthals who believe that prison is the place where those who deserve it get assaulted, how does this help anyone’s rehabilitation? How does this make them better people when they return to our community?

And what about the perpetrators of prison violence? If you condone (or applaud) the assault of a person because of their offending, then surely you also turn a blind eye to those who are their assailants. How does perpetrating violence on “those who deserve it” whilst in prison affect a person’s likelihood of rehabilitation if that person has a history of violent offences? Will bashing an offender make the basher a better person when they return to the community?

And what about the costs to the community? Not only is it already very expensive to incarcerate an offender, but the community now has to stump up the costs of medical treatment (the bloke might lose an eye) and potentially also the costs of compensation.

Still think a prison bashing is a great idea for those who “deserve it”?

If the other prisoner had finished the job we’d have no issue with compensation and no worries about this scumbag getting out.

I think the person saying he looks Indian was being sarcastic.

Mr King was sentenced not very long ago, but had spent years on remand, so someone’s calculation of his parole eligibility is way off the mark.

Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

IP

Well it would appear he was King hit!

obamabinladen said :

This wouldnt be an issue if all rock spiders, sex offenders and violent criminals were punished by death!!!

So that would mean executing both of them? What about the people posting in this thread who condone this serious assault? That executioner is going to be busy.

IP

Comic, if you have to ask Mike Crowther’s source, you ain’t been posting here long! (FYI Mike has a long employment history in the corrections field and knows his stuff).

This whole issue of security and keeping protected prisoners separate has arisen before

http://the-riotact.com/sex-offenders-preying-on-the-vulnerable-in-the-prison-rehab/91137

DrKoresh said :

DUB said :

That is good to know. Plus, he looks too Indian to me. My biggest pet-hates.

You’re glad he was punched because he was Indian?

This is me wishing incurable bowel cancer on you, with all my heart.

DrKoresh, one thing you weren’t taught is to never wish bad to people.
So in this case, from your own heart, it will come back to you, tenfold.That’s for sure.
And where did you read that I was glad he was punched because of him looking Indian??

IrishPete said :

I think the person saying he looks Indian was being sarcastic.
Mr King was sentenced not very long ago, but had spent years on remand, so someone’s calculation of his parole eligibility is way off the mark.
Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

IP

Thank you IP, the only proper thinking person. Agree with the last line 100%.

thatsnotme said :

DUB said :

That is good to know. Plus, he looks too Indian to me. My biggest pet-hates.

Just for future reference, that Indian ‘pet-hate’ of yours is more commonly referred to as ‘racism’.

You and others alike- please drop this political correctness bs.:-)
It is long dead in real world. Also, learn a definition of racism/racist before you accuse someone.
You want to have a rant about racism? This is a link for you- trolls feeding on other idiots, look at other threads within Australia too-entertaining to read.LOL
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TUMO1CNII1MNT2FDB

About racism- who’s the racist the most? Link:
http://www.whiteindianhousewife.com/2012/04/the-other-side-of-racism-in-india/

King’s judgment from the Supreme Court website – http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/judgment/view/4894/title/r-v-king.

Made me sick.

DUB said :

Thank you IP, the only proper thinking person. Agree with the last line 100%.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

IP

miz said :

Comic, if you have to ask Mike Crowther’s source, you ain’t been posting here long! (FYI Mike has a long employment history in the corrections field and knows his stuff).

This whole issue of security and keeping protected prisoners separate has arisen before

http://the-riotact.com/sex-offenders-preying-on-the-vulnerable-in-the-prison-rehab/91137

Corrections field in NSW or other proper prisons……not the AMC

mareva said :

And yes I condone bashings of rock spiders in prisons, to the person who raised the “counter-arguments”.

God knows there is rarely justice elsewhere.

Should the bloke who king hit him without warning or provocation, inflicting an injury that will cost him an eye, be punished for that assault occasioning grievous bodily harm? Or by condoning the bashing, do you pardon his attacker?

What about when his attacker is released from prison? Do you then expect him to have learnt that violence is not acceptable? How?

IrishPete said :

Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

No, they got it right.

banco said :

HardBallGets said :

simplechick said :

It was a pedophile who was assulted .. If you ask me he deserves everything he gets!

I assume you’re talking about compensation?

Regardless of the offences for which he is incarcerated, he’s entitled to safety. And for the neanderthals who believe that prison is the place where those who deserve it get assaulted, how does this help anyone’s rehabilitation? How does this make them better people when they return to our community?

And what about the perpetrators of prison violence? If you condone (or applaud) the assault of a person because of their offending, then surely you also turn a blind eye to those who are their assailants. How does perpetrating violence on “those who deserve it” whilst in prison affect a person’s likelihood of rehabilitation if that person has a history of violent offences? Will bashing an offender make the basher a better person when they return to the community?

And what about the costs to the community? Not only is it already very expensive to incarcerate an offender, but the community now has to stump up the costs of medical treatment (the bloke might lose an eye) and potentially also the costs of compensation.

Still think a prison bashing is a great idea for those who “deserve it”?

If the other prisoner had finished the job we’d have no issue with compensation and no worries about this scumbag getting out.

But those who you’d have finishing the job would have to be released sooner or later. And what would they have learnt about society’s expectations of them?

Would they have learnt that it’s OK to break the law by committing acts of violence and murder if you think you have justification or if the law is an inconvenient obstacle to the outcome you think is best?

Is that the belief system you really what prisoners re-entering society with?

Good point vg – the ACT prison is a bit ‘special’.

(And, I refuse to call it a ‘centre’ without some kind of qualifying word, as that is weasel wording, like ‘resource management centre’ for what is commonly known as the tip.)

James_Ryan said :

IrishPete said :

Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

No, they got it right.

If you’re referring to the Minister’s comments as reported here http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/protected-prisoner-not-deliberately-in-same-area-as-alleged-attacker-20130130-2djq6.html no he doesn’t say that. And I heard the interview on radio yesterday morning. He certainly implied they shouldn’t have been in the same area, but there could be other reasons for that than that other than them being of different Protection categories. It also could just be a judgement made with the benefit of hindsight. Unfortunately the investigation has been handed over to the AFP so we may eventually find out, if they pursue a prosecution. If they don’t, then we may never know.

IP

I’m not referring to the minister’s comments.

It just proves that even in a Human Rights compliant environment, such as the world class facility at Hume, s***bags will always conduct themselves as s***bags – it’s in their DNA.

Proboscus said :

It just proves that even in a Human Rights compliant environment, such as the world class facility at Hume, s***bags will always conduct themselves as s***bags – it’s in their DNA.

That’s a somewhat broad statement. It’s mainly in their upbringing rather than their DNA. But your point stands – Human Rights compliance on its own isn’t going to change an offender’s behaviour.

IP

James_Ryan said :

I’m not referring to the minister’s comments.

Inside knowledge? Oh I love a good pun…

IP