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Quick to condemn Palmer after the fact but not during the rant

By 20 August 2014 18

I found Clive Palmer’s outburst on Q&A on Monday night pretty awful and something we shouldn’t see from a Member of Parliament.

I do however wonder why Tony Jones or Penny Wong didn’t step in to disagree?

I find it a very ‘Australian’ thing to do. To stand by and smile while someone spews vile statements that they disagree with, not wanting to have the awkward or uncomfortable conversation, not wanting to rock the boat.

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18 Responses to Quick to condemn Palmer after the fact but not during the rant
#1
HenryBG12:22 pm, 20 Aug 14

Yes, it is a very “Australian” thing to allow just about anybody to voice their views and opinions.

Vlad Putin wouldn’t like it, that’s for sure.

#2
Mysteryman12:50 pm, 20 Aug 14

NEWS FLASH: Other people have a right to express their opinions even if you don’t like it.

HenryBG said :

Yes, it is a very “Australian” thing to allow just about anybody to voice their views and opinions.

Vlad Putin wouldn’t like it, that’s for sure.

Exactly. Clive has every right to express his viewpoint. I don’t really care if he does or doesn’t like the Chinese. That’s his prerogative. He should choose his words more carefully, but frankly, I think he probably has good reason to feel the way he does considering his recent dealing with Chinese companies and the disputes they’ve had. Does that make him racist? I don’t think it does. It makes him short tempered and inarticulate.

#3
justin heywood1:10 pm, 20 Aug 14

Tony Jones and Palmer seem to have a weird relationship. Palmer has been said to have something of a ‘man-crush’ on Jones – he is certainly gushing in his praise of him as a journalist. As for Jones’ attitude to Palmer, I think it’s pretty much ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’.

That Palmer is not regularly crucified in the media is a measure of the visceral hatred many journalists have towards Abbott. Abbott certainly has his faults, but Palmer deserves a lot harsher scrutiny than he receives. While he promises to make life difficult for the Libs he seems to get fairly gentle treatment, although surely he’s pushed his luck this time.

Penny Wong just looked shocked. When you’re sitting next to an idiot making a public disgrace of himself, what can you say?

#4
dungfungus1:20 pm, 20 Aug 14

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.
I thought that “independent” RBA board member Heather Riddout’s political comments were more offensive that what Palmer said and there have been plenty of potty mouthed panellists that are never challenged. Then there was the disturbed man that threw a sand shoe at John Howard.
I think you will find that Jones deliberately baited Palmer as revenge for Palmer walking out on his last interview with Jone’s wife, Sarah Ferguson on ABC TV’s 7.30.

#5
watto232:27 pm, 20 Aug 14

I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the opposition hang themselves. Both the libs and PUP are seemingly do a good job of it lately. Then again they had 6 years to learn as well.

#6
dungfungus2:42 pm, 20 Aug 14

watto23 said :

I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the opposition hang themselves. Both the libs and PUP are seemingly do a good job of it lately. Then again they had 6 years to learn as well.

In what way are the opposition hanging themselves? According to the polls, Labor would win an election comfortably. This would indicate Penny Wong at least is doing a good job.
Mind you, I think Labor is about to implode again as the Abbott government powers on to win another term.

#7
John Moulis3:36 pm, 20 Aug 14

watto23 said :

I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the opposition hang themselves. Both the libs and PUP are seemingly do a good job of it lately. Then again they had 6 years to learn as well.

I think you meant to say “I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the *government* hang themselves”. Makes more sense.

#8
astrojax5:05 pm, 20 Aug 14

John Moulis said :

watto23 said :

I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the opposition hang themselves. Both the libs and PUP are seemingly do a good job of it lately. Then again they had 6 years to learn as well.

I think you meant to say “I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the *government* hang themselves”. Makes more sense.

yes, i took watto’s comment to mean ‘her’ opposition…

#9
HenryBG5:37 pm, 20 Aug 14

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.

That’s because “progressives” share information and honest analysis.

If “conservatives” could participate without feeling the need to repeat non-fact-based slogans, maybe they wouldn’t get interrupted.

#10
HiddenDragon5:53 pm, 20 Aug 14

There’s the “miss me yet?” photo of Julia – after this, Pauline might be tempted to do something similar.

Still on the subject of regrets, I wonder whether Tony Jones regrets the first few chummy interviews he did with Clive, prior to last year’s election?

#11
dungfungus7:05 pm, 20 Aug 14

John Moulis said :

watto23 said :

I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the opposition hang themselves. Both the libs and PUP are seemingly do a good job of it lately. Then again they had 6 years to learn as well.

I think you meant to say “I think Penny Wong and Labor in general are letting the *government* hang themselves”. Makes more sense.

It was a classic Freudian slip.
Watto23, like lots of other Labor supporters are still in denial that the coalition won the last federal election and won it well.

#12
dungfungus7:08 pm, 20 Aug 14

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.

That’s because “progressives” share information and honest analysis.

If “conservatives” could participate without feeling the need to repeat non-fact-based slogans, maybe they wouldn’t get interrupted.

Wow!

#13
Masquara7:39 pm, 20 Aug 14

HiddenDragon said :

There’s the “miss me yet?” photo of Julia – after this, Pauline might be tempted to do something similar.

Still on the subject of regrets, I wonder whether Tony Jones regrets the first few chummy interviews he did with Clive, prior to last year’s election?

HenryBG said :

Yes, it is a very “Australian” thing to allow just about anybody to voice their views and opinions.

Vlad Putin wouldn’t like it, that’s for sure.

Nah – narcissists don’t experience regret!

#14
chewy148:31 pm, 20 Aug 14

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.
I thought that “independent” RBA board member Heather Riddout’s political comments were more offensive that what Palmer said and there have been plenty of potty mouthed panellists that are never challenged. Then there was the disturbed man that threw a sand shoe at John Howard.
I think you will find that Jones deliberately baited Palmer as revenge for Palmer walking out on his last interview with Jone’s wife, Sarah Ferguson on ABC TV’s 7.30.

Truss wasn’t interrupted, he was trying to sidestep the questions about the budget because he knows its an impossible sell due to some of the illogical and contradictory measures it contains. And anyone who’s seen Palmer’s antics before knows he needs no baiting.

#15
dungfungus9:40 pm, 20 Aug 14

chewy14 said :

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.
I thought that “independent” RBA board member Heather Riddout’s political comments were more offensive that what Palmer said and there have been plenty of potty mouthed panellists that are never challenged. Then there was the disturbed man that threw a sand shoe at John Howard.
I think you will find that Jones deliberately baited Palmer as revenge for Palmer walking out on his last interview with Jone’s wife, Sarah Ferguson on ABC TV’s 7.30.

Truss wasn’t interrupted, he was trying to sidestep the questions about the budget because he knows its an impossible sell due to some of the illogical and contradictory measures it contains. And anyone who’s seen Palmer’s antics before knows he needs no baiting.

Funny how Jones has never interrupted Swan or Wong as to why Labor failed to deliver 5 consecutive promised budget surpluses.

#16
chewy1410:46 pm, 20 Aug 14

dungfungus said :

chewy14 said :

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.
I thought that “independent” RBA board member Heather Riddout’s political comments were more offensive that what Palmer said and there have been plenty of potty mouthed panellists that are never challenged. Then there was the disturbed man that threw a sand shoe at John Howard.
I think you will find that Jones deliberately baited Palmer as revenge for Palmer walking out on his last interview with Jone’s wife, Sarah Ferguson on ABC TV’s 7.30.

Truss wasn’t interrupted, he was trying to sidestep the questions about the budget because he knows its an impossible sell due to some of the illogical and contradictory measures it contains. And anyone who’s seen Palmer’s antics before knows he needs no baiting.

Funny how Jones has never interrupted Swan or Wong as to why Labor failed to deliver 5 consecutive promised budget surpluses.

Really? I’ve seen him attack members of all parties fairly harshly.

Ive got a hint for you that might help. Next time you watch the show, remember to take your eyepatch off before it starts.

#17
dungfungus8:31 am, 21 Aug 14

chewy14 said :

dungfungus said :

chewy14 said :

dungfungus said :

Q & A is a joke.
It promotes itself as the show “where you ask the questions” but Tony Jones appears to ask more questions than anyone else. He constantly interrupts conservatives (like Warren Truss last Monday) but gives free rein to “progressives”.
I thought that “independent” RBA board member Heather Riddout’s political comments were more offensive that what Palmer said and there have been plenty of potty mouthed panellists that are never challenged. Then there was the disturbed man that threw a sand shoe at John Howard.
I think you will find that Jones deliberately baited Palmer as revenge for Palmer walking out on his last interview with Jone’s wife, Sarah Ferguson on ABC TV’s 7.30.

Truss wasn’t interrupted, he was trying to sidestep the questions about the budget because he knows its an impossible sell due to some of the illogical and contradictory measures it contains. And anyone who’s seen Palmer’s antics before knows he needs no baiting.

Funny how Jones has never interrupted Swan or Wong as to why Labor failed to deliver 5 consecutive promised budget surpluses.

Really? I’ve seen him attack members of all parties fairly harshly.

Ive got a hint for you that might help. Next time you watch the show, remember to take your eyepatch off before it starts.

“Really? I’ve seen him attack members of all parties fairly harshly.”
Links please.

#18
Grail9:30 am, 21 Aug 14

One person’s “harsh” is another’s “soft touch.” Most right-wing viewers would consider any treatment of Labor Party members short of being flayed alive, to be “soft touch”.

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