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Riot Post – New Local Tip

By 25 April 2014 14

Message from one of our Rioters:

Emu Bank Belconnen has become the new tip. There is a trolley cemetery in the water. Heaps of plastic bottles, glass bottles – garbage upon garbage heaping up. The poor water birds! Is anyone doing anything? Broken glass on paths – from beer bottles. Does anyone care? Have we all given up? Great for our visitors!

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14 Responses to Riot Post – New Local Tip
#1
patrick_keogh2:38 pm, 25 Apr 14
#2
CutSnake4:38 pm, 25 Apr 14

If only Civic could be as vibrant as this! If only our rates and taxes could be spent where most of us actually live instead of to benefit inner north voters only. (And if only some people weren’t pigs).

#3
screaming banshee4:41 pm, 25 Apr 14

Do you have to drive through and offload different waste at different points, I hate that about the Mitchell facility and would much rather dump somewhere that I can just pull up and push it all off the trailer in one go.

#4
CutSnake5:13 pm, 25 Apr 14

A long time ago I was learning about landscape design, playgrounds actually, and the lecturer said something I’ll never forget. “Intensive use requires intensive maintenance.” So the more people are jammed into higher density living the more it costs to maintain the environment around them. Let’s just hope the ACT government will actually do this.

#5
bigfeet11:43 pm, 25 Apr 14

An artificial reef made of trolleys?

Sounds like a great breeding area for our native fishes and crustaceans.

Keep up the good work!

#6
in_the_taratory2:31 pm, 26 Apr 14

I care. I’m a Belconnen Town Centre resident and trolleys really bug me – largely for the reasons you mentioned. The rubbish is also a huge problem but I do regularly see plenty of TAMS rangers (is that what they’re called?) out and about picking up the rubbish and clearing away the bins. A few weekends ago I saw one ranger having to clean up after a party at one of the John Knight Memorial Park bbq areas – *everything* had been left behind, from bottles to meat to rubbish. Sad.

I’ve been campaigning on social media re trolleys for a few months now, and it’s getting a reasonable amount of attention – to the point that Coles put me in touch with their Trolley National Compliance Manager (yes, it’s a real position). They’re listening, and the more people that raise this as an issue, the better.

There are a lot of reasons why trolleys are a problem in the Belco Town Centre (which I detail on my blog), but I reckon it’s time we start thinking about creative solutions to either stop people taking them out of centres, or get them returning the trolleys. (There might be a similar logic re getting people to put rubbish in bins!)

There’s a fairly lively discussion on my blog – feel free to join in: http://inthetaratory.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/the-shopping-trolley/

#7
gooterz3:50 pm, 26 Apr 14

Trolleys used to be fairly expensive $2000 each, i think recently they’ve come down to a few hundred per pop so shops are always topping up and neglecting them.
The worst ones are the ones where people walk home 2km with the trolley then dump it.

Sadly its all because the people than the issue of trollies. Not sure how you can get someone to respect social rules when they have everything happened to them no matter what they do.

#8
rommeldog561:21 pm, 27 Apr 14

True, gooterz, it is about “people”.

But, I have noticed that trolley dumping has got much, much worse since the ACT Government banned those plastic bags u used to get at Woolies/Coles. Maybe there is a connection?

There are 3 Coles Trolleys in a laneway near me. Over the last 2 months, I’ve sent 2 advices to the Coles Trolly retrieval eMail address and called into Coles @ Chisholm twice to advise them so that they can be retrieved by Coles. No action to date.

#9
in_the_taratory1:44 pm, 27 Apr 14

rommeldog56 said :

True, gooterz, it is about “people”.

But, I have noticed that trolley dumping has got much, much worse since the ACT Government banned those plastic bags u used to get at Woolies/Coles. Maybe there is a connection?

There are 3 Coles Trolleys in a laneway near me. Over the last 2 months, I’ve sent 2 advices to the Coles Trolly retrieval eMail address and called into Coles @ Chisholm twice to advise them so that they can be retrieved by Coles. No action to date.

I don’t think there’s any link between bags and trolley dumping. If you’ve got more than two bags and you’re walking you’re probably going to use a trolley.

From (a lot of) experience, Coles is most responsive when you post a photo to Twitter and tag them with the street of the Trolley, or when you call 1800TROLLEY. They need as much detail as possible – from what I’ve seen they aren’t experts on the areas they’re looking in and struggle for anything not on a street.

#10
wildturkeycanoe3:28 pm, 27 Apr 14

in_the_taratory said :

rommeldog56 said :

True, gooterz, it is about “people”.

But, I have noticed that trolley dumping has got much, much worse since the ACT Government banned those plastic bags u used to get at Woolies/Coles. Maybe there is a connection?

There are 3 Coles Trolleys in a laneway near me. Over the last 2 months, I’ve sent 2 advices to the Coles Trolly retrieval eMail address and called into Coles @ Chisholm twice to advise them so that they can be retrieved by Coles. No action to date.

I don’t think there’s any link between bags and trolley dumping. If you’ve got more than two bags and you’re walking you’re probably going to use a trolley.

From (a lot of) experience, Coles is most responsive when you post a photo to Twitter and tag them with the street of the Trolley, or when you call 1800TROLLEY. They need as much detail as possible – from what I’ve seen they aren’t experts on the areas they’re looking in and struggle for anything not on a street.

Rather than going into a draw to win $1000 for the month for reporting stolen trolleys, if they gave you a puny reward [say $10], I’m sure there would be more trolleys returned to their rightful owners instead of being dumped. Even the culprits would chip in, knowing there’s an easy tenner to be made reporting their own violation.

#11
gooterz6:10 pm, 27 Apr 14

wildturkeycanoe said :

in_the_taratory said :

rommeldog56 said :

True, gooterz, it is about “people”.

But, I have noticed that trolley dumping has got much, much worse since the ACT Government banned those plastic bags u used to get at Woolies/Coles. Maybe there is a connection?

There are 3 Coles Trolleys in a laneway near me. Over the last 2 months, I’ve sent 2 advices to the Coles Trolly retrieval eMail address and called into Coles @ Chisholm twice to advise them so that they can be retrieved by Coles. No action to date.

I don’t think there’s any link between bags and trolley dumping. If you’ve got more than two bags and you’re walking you’re probably going to use a trolley.

From (a lot of) experience, Coles is most responsive when you post a photo to Twitter and tag them with the street of the Trolley, or when you call 1800TROLLEY. They need as much detail as possible – from what I’ve seen they aren’t experts on the areas they’re looking in and struggle for anything not on a street.

Rather than going into a draw to win $1000 for the month for reporting stolen trolleys, if they gave you a puny reward [say $10], I’m sure there would be more trolleys returned to their rightful owners instead of being dumped. Even the culprits would chip in, knowing there’s an easy tenner to be made reporting their own violation.

I’m sure a number of people would have an ‘inside source’ when it came to the location of the trollies. I doubt it would last a week before there we’re no trollies left.

In the states they have trollies with electric brakes that trigger when they get too far from the store. Those would work

#12
gazket12:39 am, 28 Apr 14

TAMS only cut the grass in Belconnen when it gets 3 to 4 feet high, Go to gunners and the grass doesn’t get to 10cm before they are cutting it again.

The street sweeper only comes around the suburbs once every 3 years if we are lucky and the gutters are left to fill up dirt and crap. Trees growing out of the storm water drains.

The road has sunken to near 100mm on side of the under pass on Alpen st been like that for over 2 years now . They fixed 1 in the area properly Baddely st. The other on Clancy st just had a repair, they resurfaced the road with the same dip again so it’s just like before it was so called repaired.

Gov/Tams don’t do sh$# for Belconnen and haven’t for a long time yet most all voted Labor still.
They clog the intersections and main thoroughfare with un timed traffic lights and speed cushions and took away most of the parking.

#13
Sandman5:46 pm, 28 Apr 14

wildturkeycanoe said :

Rather than going into a draw to win $1000 for the month for reporting stolen trolleys, if they gave you a puny reward [say $10], I’m sure there would be more trolleys returned to their rightful owners instead of being dumped. Even the culprits would chip in, knowing there’s an easy tenner to be made reporting their own violation.

Something tells me a lot more would get reported than were genuinely missing. I think they just need to limit the trolley movements, or put a larger deposit on the trolley use. If the tokens were $20 a piece I doubt there would be many people abandoning them, and they would definitely get returned by local kids when found.

#14
PoQ11:12 am, 29 Apr 14

CutSnake said :

If only Civic could be as vibrant as this! If only our rates and taxes could be spent where most of us actually live instead of to benefit inner north voters only. (And if only some people weren’t pigs).

When I moved to Canberra, I saw a note/article/thing along the lines “…Northsiders are feckless drunks. Southsiders are sanctimonious bores…” Obviously northside gets more because they buy TAMS drinks, rather than lecture them about fairness and responsibility.

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