I would like Canberrans assistance in tracking down a particular motor vehicle. The four occupants of this vehicle attacked my wife and young child in a road rage attack a few weeks ago on the Monaro Highway.
At approximately 10:30pm on a Saturday evening, my wife was travelling eastbound along Hindmarsh Drive when in her rear view mirror she saw a late model silver Holden Commodore SS approaching at extremely high speed. The vehicle passed her and then swerved quickly in front of her into the lane she was occupying in order to pass a car in the other lane almost causing her to run off the road. The silver Commodore then continued along Hindmarsh Drive at high speed, driving erratically and dangerously around other vehicles.
At the intersection of Hindmarsh Drive and the Monaro Highway, the Commodore was stopped at a red arrow waiting to turn right and southbound toward Tuggeranong. As my wife’s car drew alongside their vehicle, her only mistake was to glance across at the occupants of the vehicle. Upon doing this, two of the passengers wound down the windows and started abusing her, yelling out “what the f*** are you looking at b****” and making other sexually explicit threats toward her. My wife ignored their taunts and when the arrow turned green she turned right to head down the Monaro Highway toward Tuggeranong.
The Commodore and its occupants then proceeded to tailgate her with their high beam lights on. After a few kilometres, they passed her at high speed and pulled in front of her, forcing her car off the road. Upon coming to a stop the four occupants of the Commodore got out of the vehicle, with two of them armed with what appeared to be a small bat and a small crowbar, and began hitting my wife’s vehicle with these objects and their fists with considerable force. The verbal threats continued, telling her to get out of the car while trying to gain access through the doors which were thankfully locked.
One of the occupants then struck the rear quarter window with one of their weapons with such force that it shattered showering glass all over our 4 month old baby, who was in a baby capsule in the back seat. At this time another vehicle was approaching the scene and upon seeing this the occupants of the Commodore all returned to their vehicle and left at high speed.
My wife called the police to report the incident immediately. The police attended the scene and took details.
In following this matter up, we have unfortunately been advised by the police that the registered owner of the vehicle is no longer at the address listed on his registration and license. As a result, the police can do very little until they catch up with the car and driver.
As a result, I would like to see whether this community can help in identifying the car and driver. The car was a silver late model Holden Commodore SS with ACT registration ***-***. It had red P-Plates displayed in the top right hand corner of the rear window. The four occupants were all males and aged between approximately 17 to 19 years of age.
If by any remote chance anyone knows of this vehicle or where it is garaged, see this vehicle on Canberra’s roads, or know the owner and where he lives, could you please pass this information onto me. There is considerable damage to my wife’s vehicle plus the police are very keen to catch up with these youths considering the nature of their attack on my wife and 4 month old child.
I know that this is a long shot, but I do not want to see these youths get away with such an unprovoked attack on an innocent woman and infant and have it potentially happen to someone else.
UPDATE: The highest levels of ACT Policing are now following this up and gmckay424 should check his email and get in touch with them. We’ve decided to suppress the rego details until the bottom has been got to.
FURTHER UPDATE: This statement from ACT Policing:
A comprehensive search of ACT Policing indices has yielded nil results for the incident as described.
Police would urge the original complainant in this matter to contact ACT Policing Operations on 131-444.”
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I think it’s obvious that the police need to do something here, before members of the public do.
Jimzed said :
I’d prefer they Mully themselves out of existence, as long as they do not take out anyone else first.
dpm said :
My sarcasm radar didn’t detect any. I would have certainly embraced it otherwise. Anyway, now that we’ve cleared that up…let’s find these punks and hang them in the Town Square!
I bet she had it coming. People don’t get road rage at random vehicles. They get road rage at incompetent and inconsiderate drivers.
The story posted here is likely highly biased towards this bloke’s wife. I’m guessing she was driving slowly in the right hand lane, and her “mistake” was probably giving the guys in the car the finger, not a mere “glance”. Perhaps gmckay424′s wife should consider following the road rules, and “keep left unless overtaking”, before throwing stones.
LeatherJen said :
why ask the police? they are far too busy….
i drive a truck around this lovely city and i’ll happily run them off the road if i find them. p plater vs 40ton truck.. i like fixing problems
Noted. We will keep a look out. We hope your family are OK.
The Federal police don’t care about incidents of violence on a public road. I was assaulted on my motorcycle near on two years ago on Hindmarsh drive at a set of traffic lights. I never heard anything more about it, in spite of giving the AFP a perfect vehicle description, agreeing to prosecute to the full extent and two independent witnesses coming forward and making statements. Tell me that couldn’t be brought to court and prosecuted????
But hey, if I travel more than 5km/h over the speed limit, I will be fined and taught the lesson I deserve for being such a hardened, reckless criminal……
Frankly, as individuals, AFP officers only care about their careers and doing the bare minimum to get to the next level without causing problems.
It’s a sad indictment on police forces when people join for a career, rather than to serve the community, which is what it should be all about.
How do I get in contact with the person who posted this? I was on the receiving end of WAY over the top road rage from a late model silver Commodore on Thursday night…
Typhoon said :
I’m interested in hearing more about this, how did the assault occur? By vehicle description I assume you gave them a registration plate?
What was the outcome that Police gave you? They found the car, couldn’t find the car, an interstate person, couldn’t identify an offender, or your version of assault is not their version, etc? Give me something more then they are lazy or don’t care.
Pommy bastard said :
If you’re going to troll, at least get an interesting or amusing line of patter.
nemesisrocks said :
Dear God!!! Who let this guy out?
NOTHING justifies road rage… you need to learn to keep your emotions in check on the road…
CanberraChristina said :
Spend your time providing a statement to the police instead – more evidence can’t hurt.
Maybe check out the carpark at the Woden college. I had a commodore, can’t recall if it being silver, was definately a light coloured commodore cut me off at speed and head into the carpark at the school.
rbw said :
It seems they like targeting vulnerable looking folks put a small female in a car with 3 or 4 big blokes in another car watching closely from a distance drive around tuggers area and get the female to glare at any silver ss Holdens with P plates and see what happens they will eventually show there true colours, when she gets pushed off the road and these scum get out and start swing bats the 3-4 big blokes give them what they deserve then hand them to police. Hell if there are so many cases of this happening maybe the police should do this before some poor innocent person gets seriously hurt or even worse case killed.
Tooks said :
But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.
Rollersk8r said :
I would do exactly the same thing especially with my kids in the car!!
Rawhide Kid Part3 said :
No, there is no such thing. There is (common) assault, assault causing actual bodily harm and assault causing grievous bodily harm.
KeenGolfer said :
There is assault with intent to commit another offence, but that is pretty rare, and wouldn’t be applicable in this incident.
Rawhide Kid Part3 said :
Assault with intent to commit other offence…. I guess at a stretch you could say the assault happened as a result of them intending to cause property damage?
Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.
Golden-Alpine said :
An HSV is pretty obvious – “run o’ the mill” Commodore it ain’t… wings and trim everywhere…
Was the car lowered, with a body kit and sounded pretty low… If yes then I saw 4 guys in the car doing some dodgy deals out the back of where I work… Most likely drugs… I’ll try and find out more
Chief Ten Beers said :
So if someone is renting, moves house with no forwarding address and hasn’t changed, rego, or electoral roll and moves into a group house, the Police can still find them? What miracle way would you use to find them?
What do they do, knock on every door in Canberra until they find them?
buzz819 said :
Assault is assault. Simple charge. You then have degrees of assault (OABH, etc). In this case, charge with assault. Seperate charge for the property damage. Through in other misc. charges such as armed with a weapon, etc and there you have it. Also consider any intent – for example, did they intend to sexually assault the victim (complicated but if two of them were of the same mind then you may have a conspiracy to committ).
Anyway, I think you get the idea.
Road Rage happens all the time unfortunately, I had an incident recently. I reacted to the situation at the time- I would advise that EVERYONE should have the police assistance number in their phones, 131 444. They checked up the rego whilst I was on the phone to them, told me where to drive to, called the cops… they were fantastic! The situation was resolved at the police station where I was tailed to- she was informed that she didnt know the road rules. Idiots are everywhere. I dont understand the extreeme over reactions though, there is no need for it… why do people care so much?!
This may not be of any assistance, but I saw a late model silver v6 commodore in Queanbeyan about 3.30pm this afternoon (21.05.2011) with p plates. I didn’t note the rego as I hadn’t yet read this. The reason I remember them as they were “trying” to drag with another commodore (who clearly did not know them as they went another way afterwards). They were heading from Fyshwick into the Queanbeyan CBD. I hope your wife and baby are ok, this is a disgusting thing to have happen to them.
Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.
However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.
We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.
KB1971 said :
Before anyone tries stupid manoeuvres such as the PIT Manoeuvre, please be aware that (a) law enforcement are trained to use it properly, (b) the vehicles are modified to perform the manoeuvre, (c) it probably counts as assault with intent to harm if you do it without training and authority, and (d) you will likely end up dead if you mess it up.
Vigilante justice is another form of gang warfare. Don’t participate in it. If you see the car, just call the police and let them know where it is. Don’t follow it, don’t interact with it, don’t try to be a hero.
Yes, it’s pathetic behaviour and these guys need to be held to account for their actions. Trying to impart your own form of Chuck Norris/James Bond/Rambo justice on them is more than likely going to get you hurt.
Tooks said :
Okay, champ. Ignore the points I made and make a childish anti-police comment, ignoring the obvious fact that police put people before court every day for assault. If you’re going to behave like an obnoxious, mouth-breathing cretin in response to a reasonable comment (in which I was trying to be constructive), then do me a favour and don’t bother replying at all.
I assume you are just another example of AFP’s finest.
CC1234 said :
Is your father’s car a silver Holden Commodore SS as reported? Seems a big coincidence to get both plate and vehicle make correct if it wasn’t that vehicle.