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Roadside drug testing comes ever closer

By johnboy - 5 May 2010 158

The Liberal’s Jeremy Hanson is celebrating in principle support in the Legislative Assembly for his Random Roadside Drug Testing bill.

Apparently this is going to build on the “success” of the Victorian legislation in this area.

So what other random searches shall we start up in ever more panicked fear of ourselves?

What’s Your opinion?


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158 Responses to
Roadside drug testing comes ever closer
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Jim Jones 1:16 pm
06 May 10
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jasere said :

the way I see it MOST of the sheep that are against it are low life junkies.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a ‘low life junkie’? You really are a tool.

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Katietonia 1:33 pm
06 May 10
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I think this is verging on ridiculous. They may as well just test the entire population if they are going to test drivers.

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fgzk 1:40 pm
06 May 10
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jasere Grown ups use punctuation. Even low life junkies have mastered the full stop.

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Holden Caulfield 1:42 pm
06 May 10
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dvaey said :

vg said :

I’d love to see you justify that comment to the families of people killed in motor vehicles accidents where drug affectation was a major factor.

Exactly how many is this? You seem to know the figures involved, and since they arent being published would you care to share your information? Or do you just like using the emotive arguments…

Does it matter what the number is? Isn’t one road death that could be attributed, in part or in full, to illegal drug use one death too many?

Or do you have a number of deaths attributable to illegal drug use that should be “achieved” on our roads before you agree the issue should be addressed with measures such as roadside testing?

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p1 1:46 pm
06 May 10
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One said :

Court awards assetts of dead person to Government for covering cost of disposal

Medical tests, etc = your IP is also given away without your consent

and

So will the police remove Drug affected Drivers from the roads – Answer is NO.

Are you on any medication?

RICH PEOPLE ALWAYS ANSWER NO OFFICER I AM NOT ON ANY MEDICATION

So how come Police do NOT look at Medicare Cards for medications that affect a drivers ability?

So how come the Intoxicated Government lets Drug affected Government workers destroy peoples lives?

Can someone translate for me?

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p1 1:59 pm
06 May 10
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Does it matter what the number is? Isn’t one road death that could be attributed, in part or in full, to illegal drug use one death too many?

While one is “one to many” in a philosophical sense, the simple truth is there are a lot of things which can be done to subtly adjust the behaviour and thus safety of people on the road. The cost (dollar, time, social, environmental) of these actions, verses the benefits (reduction in injuries, death, dollar value of damage) is what controls which of these actions are taken.

Max speed limit reduced to 10km/h = reduction in deaths, but a little inconvenient

All of the speed limits, BAC, etc are values which have been determined to reduce unacceptable dangers to acceptable ones while not making the world to inconvenient.

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Clown Killer 2:25 pm
06 May 10
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“So what other random searches shall we start up in ever more panicked fear of ourselves?”

I’d love to see you justify that comment to the families of people killed in motor vehicles accidents where drug affectation was a major factor.

If there was a plethora of people dying on our roads aty the hands of drug-addled drivers one might imagine that there might be a Coroners report confirming that.

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mutley 2:30 pm
06 May 10
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Jim Jones said :

jasere said :

the way I see it MOST of the sheep that are against it are low life junkies.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a ‘low life junkie’? You really are a tool.

To be honest Jim, he did say MOST of those who disagree. Stop misrepresenting the facts man.

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Jim Jones 2:57 pm
06 May 10
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mutley said :

Jim Jones said :

jasere said :

the way I see it MOST of the sheep that are against it are low life junkies.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a ‘low life junkie’? You really are a tool.

To be honest Jim, he did say MOST of those who disagree. Stop misrepresenting the facts man.

My apologies – MOST of those who disagree with him are low life druggies. That’s a much more reasonable thing to say, isn’t it.

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One 3:14 pm
06 May 10
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P1 heres the bonus

Then after a week off go back to work as a judge, minister, or other public official and screw up peoples lives while taking boxes of perscribed drugs that affect your work

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dtc 3:15 pm
06 May 10
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Is ‘voice of reason’s’ post the longest post ever on this site? And it also manages to achieve internal consistency, oft lacking in much shorter postings.

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sloppery 3:27 pm
06 May 10
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Jim Jones said :

For a start, what are the stats on confirmed links between fatal vehicle accidents and drug affectation (other than alcohol)?

Same question I asked above. It would be nice if we could take a more pragmatic view of other road rules in the same way, and adjust things to be more aligned with actual, measurable results. I curious as to whether there is any information (from anywhere) that establishes a clear link between drug use and road trauma, and the nature of the results. There’s probably a link, but what it actually means may not be so clear.

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Jim Jones 3:45 pm
06 May 10
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sloppery said :

Jim Jones said :

For a start, what are the stats on confirmed links between fatal vehicle accidents and drug affectation (other than alcohol)?

Same question I asked above. It would be nice if we could take a more pragmatic view of other road rules in the same way, and adjust things to be more aligned with actual, measurable results. I curious as to whether there is any information (from anywhere) that establishes a clear link between drug use and road trauma, and the nature of the results. There’s probably a link, but what it actually means may not be so clear.

Agreed.

Not likely to originate from the Liberal Party though, is it?

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Beserk Keyboard Warr 4:34 pm
06 May 10
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I assume pot is exempt from this roadside testing? I drive my ’84 Accord so slowly after a spliff I’d struggle to squash a grape if I collided with it.

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sloppery 4:36 pm
06 May 10
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Jim Jones said :

sloppery said :

Jim Jones said :

For a start, what are the stats on confirmed links between fatal vehicle accidents and drug affectation (other than alcohol)?

Same question I asked above. It would be nice if we could take a more pragmatic view of other road rules in the same way, and adjust things to be more aligned with actual, measurable results. I curious as to whether there is any information (from anywhere) that establishes a clear link between drug use and road trauma, and the nature of the results. There’s probably a link, but what it actually means may not be so clear.

Agreed.

Not likely to originate from the Liberal Party though, is it?

Frankly, it’s not likely to originate from government. Political correctness versus pragmatism, hmmm.

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