Hello,
I’m seeking any witnesses to a road rage incident on Flemington Rd Mitchell that happened yesterday the 18th of August 2010 at 11am.
It involved a blue motorcycle and a late 90s model white ford falcon.
I was the rider of the motorcycle who was almost pushed off the road multiple times then threatened at the lights on the corner of Flemington and Northbourne.
I am seeking the number plate of the ford falcon and anything else anyone has to offer as a witness.
My email address is belot(at)internode(dot)on(dot)net.
Cheers
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I hope you have some luck finding them.
As much as I suspect there may be two sides to this story, the idea that someone in a car would deliberately put a motorcyclists life at risk is pretty unforgivable.
Always 3 sides to a story arescarti. Theirs, yours and the truth
As a biker, this appalls me. Bikes are vulnerable enough as it is, mostly by car and 4WD idiots, but deliberate action against a bike is criminal.
Good luck!
Pretty scary experience for the motorcyclist.
If the Falcon had and was attempting to push the motorcycle off the road, what is the ‘correct’ thing for the motorcyclist to do?
I would say the motorcyclist has reasonable grounds to be in fear for their life, so is it acceptable from them to speed/flee (to the closest police station).
Good grief. I know you may be seeking witnesses first, but if you haven’t already called the police, I’d strongly advise you to do so promptly – if you don’t report these things early on, even without all the evidence, they may not pay much attention, and you can always pass on more information once you have a job number.
I’m with arescarti42; I’m not going to discount the possibility that there’s another side to this story (it’s nothing personal, that’s just how I roll), but as a general principle, people driving metal death boxes have no business menacing cyclists and motorcyclists when the consequences are so serious (moreso even that menacing other drivers).
Oh dear. Moreso THAN menacing other drivers.
Apparently, it’s also past time for my nap. Sorry.
I’ve had the same thing happen to me. Pretty scary when some loonie tradie in his ute decides that he wants to kill you.
You really have to wonder what is going through their minds.
Thumper said :
Nothing, that’s the problem.
There’s a turd lives around Gungahlin somewhere and drives a blue Lexus, did the same sort of thing to me after cutting me off – proceeded to jam on the brakes multiple times all the way up Flemington.
Thumper said :
This is the complaceny in motor vehicles I keep on raving about.
It most likely didn’t even cross the Falcon driver’s mind that if the slightest thing goes wrong, Belot would’ve been killed. He would’ve been thinking “this’ll teach him, I’ll give him a scare.” If the bloke is caught, he should have his licence cancelled for 10 years minimum. All the replies to Belot so far are in his favour, and rightfully so. I also ride a bike and have had road rage directed at me, it’s terrifying.
That said, the Falcon driver could’ve then made his way down Marcus Clarke street at 60km/h in peak hour with pedestrians everywhere… the slightest thing goes wrong, at 60km/h, a pedestrian has an 85% chance of being killed, and also blamed? Yet this is a legal and acceptable practice in our motor vehicle based society. Why?
Female P-platers and Tradies, the worst of Canberra drivers.
Times change, it used to be the male P-platers and the DCs.
Sgt.Bungers said :
Sgt.Bungers said :
Anyone who drives down Marcus Clarke street at 60 km/h at almost any time is going too fast, regardless of what the speed limit may be.
I think we will slowly see car drivers being held more accountable for any of their actions that result in death or severe injury – that’s the way they’re headed in Victoria, anyway.
ConanOfCooma said :
The female p-platers are getting better. The tradies are getting worse. If it’s tailgating, speeding, cutting people off, and being a generally obnoxious arsehole on the road, you can make a safe bet it’s a tradie.
Unfortunately many want to take the law into their own hands when they don’t know the law. Personally being a very active motorcyclist, don’t pick on anyone and never display your anger at some behaviour that you don’t like. The results could be fatal or worse.
Chalk this one up to experience and may Karma strike fear in the heart of the Falcon driver for very little else will.
Pete
PS a thick skin helps
Well maybe if the majority of you motorcycle riders didnt speed, weave in and out of traffic, almost take my side mirrors off every morning trying to get to the front of lights and think that its your right to use the bicycle lane then this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Belot, I know how you feel.
The tradies are the worst, especially the young ones. I have had cause to give it a boot-full (well hand-full actually) on the bike adn hightail it down Canberra Ave on my way to Queanbeyan police station. Luckily there a=was an ACT cop parked a bit further down the road, so I pulled up behind him and explained what happened, but the offender was long gone by the time I got the story out.
Best part was I never exceeded the speed limit. Stupid Commodore V8 had nothing off the line with a Monster 1100S tryin to get away from it. I had a 150m gap before he started to catch up.
I recommend being aware of the nearest police stations and just heading there. I have even had cause to pull into a fire station as it was the first thing I saw adn they were ready to dish out some old-fashioned lessons when I told them what happened.
Unfortunately being on a bike makes you a target and, as I found out, being on a big red Ducati makes you a bigger target to these morons.
Yes, because all motorcyclists are the same person 2.0.
2.0 said :
To be fair, at the latest Motorcycle Hooligans Conference (which every motorcyclist must attend; it’s compulsory) we all decided to do it only to you. Everybody else we leave alone.
2.0 said :
Time for an upgrade I think. Looks like your version doesn’t carry the common sense module.
I have often considered getting one of those little red emergency hammers and having it with me on the moto. Would be useful in situations like this.
Belot, i’d recommend you post this on the Canberra Riders forum located at canberrariders.org.au.
I’m glad I ride a bike that can go offroad, because it’s times like that where you have the benefit of being able to escape from an idiot.
2.0 said :
Don’t ever go driving in asia or india, because if this is the kind of stuff that worries you, your head will explode.
nhand42 said :
+1 for awesomeness.
johnboy said :
of course, just like all cyclists are the same and all “tradies in utes” are the same
Im not defending the driver at all, it sounds like a stupid way to act, all im saying is I very rarly see any motorcycle rider doing the speed limit and riding safely.
And honestly I cant beleive that someone tried to run you off the road without you doing even the slightest thing wrong…..
2.0 said :
But that’s the thing 2.0. All of us make mistakes in traffic, and all of us witness idiots in traffic every day. However, it takes a particular mindset to feel that you must ‘avenge’ yourself against others in a way that actually threatens their life.
I agree though that ‘tradies’ are unfairly targeted as perpetrators in this forum. Seems to be largely a guy thing though.
davecdp said :
Your spot on Justin. It doesn’t matter what mode of transport, its just aggresive, simple minded people…..theres no hope.
Unfortunately it’s not just motorcyclists that cop it, my 75 year old father was a victim of completely unprovoked road rage/moronic behaviour the other day. (I know it was unprovoked because I was in the car behind dad and we were both in the left lane of the parkway doing the speed limit allowing others to pass and not obstructing anyone)
A charming young man in a ute decided he would play chicken with dad and sped past him giving him the finger then once in front he slammed his breaks on nearly causing an accident. He did this a few times until dad and I pulled over to get away from him. He then decided to pull over too and started to get out of his car whilst yelling god knows what our way. At least that gave us enough time to drive off again leaving a bit of a gap between us. He decided to stop the harassment when we started heading to the police station.
Don’t know if anything was done once we reported him but all I know is my very lucid, medically fit and active father is now terrified of driving, as is my 5 year old who was in the car with him at the time.
I seem to have mislaid my invite to the next Motorcyclist Hooligans Conference. When is the next one?
On a related matter, I was riding home the other night in the rain and was tailgated all the way down Flemington Rd. Bearing in mind that it is slippery as hell, where does the car driver think they are going to go if I came off? Dick.
ConanOfCooma said :
The majority of speeding cars I see on a daily basis are adults, not P-platers. They are usually in expensive cars that P-platers couldn’t even afford, probably public servants, and they think they have the right to break as many laws on the road as they like. I do agree that Tradies are main offenders. Pretty much every ute that speeds past me, while I’m going the speed limit, produces a flicker of fluoro orange or yellow in my periphery.