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Simon flies a kite on banning plastic shopping bags

By johnboy - 24 May 2010 40

Simon Corbell is tentatively suggesting he’s thinking about banning plastic shopping bags of less than 35 microns thickness.

Meaning we end up buying packs of plastic bags for putting garbage into, rather than getting them with the shopping.

While many people like to use re-usable bags instead of plastic ones it’s worth noting that those people are already free to do so.

Either way we’ll all manage some how and this way Mr Corbell gets to make more law, which seems to be what makes him happy.

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Simon flies a kite on banning plastic shopping bags
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clw49 10:16 am
24 May 10
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I’d much rather he gave us green bins for garden waste!

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Gungahlin Al 10:21 am
24 May 10
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Why can’t we just bring back the old paper shopping bags? According to most TV shows, they are still going fine in the US.
Couple them with the reusables for anything too heavy or cold goods and we’ll avoid the main problems with the paper option.
And that way we still have bin liners…

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XO_VSOP 10:25 am
24 May 10
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How this guy is still in a position of power amazes me, he is one of the luckiest under the radar politicians around, on this call although I am all for environment, won’t make one bit of difference. It’s not like we have thousands of bags littering our streets and manmade lakes, killing birds ect

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trevar 10:38 am
24 May 10
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What about the other option from the media release: to impose a levy on them? Seems perfectly logical to me. I’d happily pay a few cents for a plastic bag from the butcher, but do I have to pay for each little bag that the meat goes into, or just the big one that the little ones are then put in?

Anyway, I like what they think is “extensive consultation”… 560 houses… but the other question is whether the ban or levy would include the bags from the fruit and vegetable shop and the delicatessen, or just the bags with handles you get at the checkouts in supermarkets?

Anyway, not being able to to get free plastic bags from the supermarket would help me remember my reusable bags, which I often forget.

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p1 10:52 am
24 May 10
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What about the other option from the media release: to impose a levy on them?

My preferred option. Market forces will quickly show home much people value the use of bags. While I am all for the banning of them sometime in the future, I kind of think it is one of those things that should be taken gradually, so that peoples behaviours change in line with laws, not because of them.

Plus, we won’t need bin liners with NO WASTE BY 2010…

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Davo111 11:02 am
24 May 10
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Does anyone smell burning books? its just one law after another…

I’m sick of making all these silly laws up. There are plastic bag recycling bins at most coles/woolies supermarkets, and more than enough opportunity to buy green bags.

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Grail 11:05 am
24 May 10
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No Waste is something you are responsible for too, p1.

My household is slowly whittling through the collection of about 500 plastic shopping bags that we’re using for bin liners – we get more bags with shopping than we use for garbage. In the meantime we’ve shifted to using our own bags when going shopping.

I really miss the old paper bags. They could ripped up and thrown on the garden as a form of mulch. Plastic bags don’t help anyone.

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p1 11:55 am
24 May 10
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No Waste is something you are responsible for too, p1.

True, and I try had to buy products with minimal packaging, recycle, compost, but still end up with stuff in my wheelie bin each week.

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James-T-Kirk 12:03 pm
24 May 10
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I Agree – Bring back the paper bags

If they cost more than the plastic ones, just hike the cost of the stuff we purchase to cover it.

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MsCheeky 2:11 pm
24 May 10
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I recall hearing somewhere that paper bags were environmentally costly to manufacture, that plastic bags were better on that basis. Of course, that doesn’t take account of the rogue plastics strangling wildlife etc.

But for goodness sake, I use the plastics to clear dog debris, as a bin liner and a myriad of other uses. If I can’t get them with my shopping, I’m going to buy a box of plastic bags. So where does that leave me – what’s the difference? Yes, I have green bags and use them, but if I drop into the supermarket to get dinner items at lunchtime and don’t have one, what am I supposed to do? If I buy more than I planned and don’t have enough green bags, what am I supposed to do? I’m happy to pay for them on a unit basis.

And sometimes, it’s good to be over the border in NSW – go the green recycling bin. Between the green bin, my worm farm, chickens and dogs, I’m not throwing a lot away, so I don’t feel an ounce of guilt about using plastic bags as bin liners.

I recall hearing a CSIRO scientist on the radio a few years ago says that if I, to be environmentally responsible, just left my car at home and took a bus or train for one trip to Sydney, I was welcome to a lifetime supply of plastic bags. This stupid plan to ban them makes me cranky.

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CanberraCreative 3:04 pm
24 May 10
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Instead of banning them legislate that all bags used by ACt retailers be made of biodegradable materials like corn-starch. Most respectable retailers already do this.

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Postalgeek 3:34 pm
24 May 10
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MsCheeky said :

But for goodness sake, I use the plastics to clear dog debris, as a bin liner and a myriad of other uses. If I can’t get them with my shopping, I’m going to buy a box of plastic bags. So where does that leave me – what’s the difference?

The difference is you take an empty plastic bag, put something in it, and then dispose of it. For many people who receive their shopping in plastic bags, they take a plastic bag with something in it, empty it, and then dispose of it. When those bags hit the tip and are exposed to winds, there’s a big difference between the behaviour of a bag with something in it and a bag without something it.

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krats 4:04 pm
24 May 10
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clw49 said :

I’d much rather he gave us green bins for garden waste!

Even “QUEANBEYAN”has these bins.Yet in the nations capital city we do not.How pathetic!
People seem to forget that we already pay for each plastic bag.the cost of the bag is incorporated into each and every item placed on the shelve of supermarkets.along with the cost of wages and freight Etc Etc.

Since the introduction of reusable cloth (green) bags-Has the price of food fallen? NO.
The supermarkets are saving a small fortune.as the guilt trip that they put on us to say no plastic bag for me.I will give you a couple of dollars for a GREEN BAG.screw em.
GIVE ME PLASTIC,IVE ALREADY PAID FOR IT.

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shirty_bear 4:42 pm
24 May 10
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Stupid nanny state …. plastic shopping bags are ideal domestic garbage bags, simple. If they stop giving them to me, I’ll just have to buy them. Probably even buy the exact same bags …. 500 of them delivered for $25 (says a quick look at ebay).

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krats 5:23 pm
24 May 10
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Oh! and by the way…what has happened to “no waste by 2010”.-Just another lie.Kate(noddy)has at least gone!

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