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Simon Sheikh planning a doomed run at Gazza

By johnboy - 23 October 2012 41

The ABC has the risible news that the former GetUp! frontman Simon Sheikh wants to run Green for an ACT Senate Seat.

He thinks Liberal Senator Gary Humphries’ seat is vulnerable.

I really don’t see Gary’s core constituency flocking to Simon Sheikh.

UPDATE 23/10/12 09:32: The Liberals’ Eric Abetz is taking this as a gotcha moment:

“Simon Sheik’s tilt for Greens preselection for the ACT Senate again puts the lie to GetUp’s claims to be independent.”

“Moreover, while the Liberal Party has never taken public support for granted, the Greens’ constant inflation of their chances of gaining an ACT Senator is particularly hard to swallow given the collapse in their vote on Saturday,” Liberal Senate Leader, Eric Abetz said today.

Senator Abetz described GetUp! as a partisan left wing union front which uses people’s concern about issues to funnel their vote towards Labor and the Greens.

“At the 2010 federal election GetUp mustered a massive, deceptive campaign in the ACT for the benefit of the Greens, to unseat Gary Humphries, but to no avail.”

“GetUp’s ‘scorecard’ gave the Greens ‘the tick’ on every issue and in the ACT a Greens boothworker was photographed blatantly putting up GetUp! material.”

“Simon Sheik’s bid for Greens pre-selection simply ‘bells the cat’ and it will be fascinating, should he see off Lin Hatfield Dodds or any other contender, to see GetUp! explain supporting Sheik while simultaneously claiming to be ‘independent’.”

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41 Responses to
Simon Sheikh planning a doomed run at Gazza
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neanderthalsis 11:47 am
23 Oct 12
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It will serve to do little more than split the leftist/labor vote. Those punters backing Gazza will keep on backing him (probably) and preferences from a greens/getup candidate will flow back to Labor. So end result will be Lundy and Humphries.

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Tetranitrate 12:13 pm
23 Oct 12
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Not this garbage again. If Kerrie tucker couldn’t do it in 2007 it’s not going to happen.

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SnapperJack 12:38 pm
23 Oct 12
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Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

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LSWCHP 1:02 pm
23 Oct 12
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I heard this clown being interviewed on ABC news radio this morning. He sounded like he’d spent the last decade in the Political Spin Doctor School of Smooth Rhetoric. All that I remember is a flood of enthusiastic and insincere bloviation about ensuring positive outcomes going forward etc etc…

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 1:07 pm
23 Oct 12
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SnapperJack said :

Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

Really not very bright are you, snapper jack.

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460cixy 1:25 pm
23 Oct 12
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SnapperJack said :

Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

So very true

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Diggety 1:35 pm
23 Oct 12
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Well, I don’t think Abetz needed to point that out, but he’s dead right.

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poetix 1:51 pm
23 Oct 12
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Gazza Strait?

Hardly, after Saturday.

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Skidbladnir 1:55 pm
23 Oct 12
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SnapperJack said :

Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

1) Way to go on the Godwin’s Law there, buddy.

2) The AEC’s position on GetUp in 2005
[GetUp] do[es] not appear to be controlled by one or more registered political parties, nor do[es it] appear to operate wholly or to a significant extent to the benefit of one or more registered political parties. In particular, the currently available information does not show a real or actual benefit to any party or parties, nor does it show a sufficiently direct link between the entities and any political party or parties.

3) The AEC’s more thorough position as at 2010 when the matter was again referred
AEC conclusion
The AEC has reviewed the previous information in its possession together with the additional material that has come into the public domain since 2006. The results of this review are that there is still no information or available evidence to show that GetUp meets any of the six grounds set out in the definition of an “associated entity” contained in subsection 287(1) of the Electoral Act.

The AEC has also considered the previous information in its possession and the lists of all the GetUp campaigns set out on its website. The AEC readily acknowledges that many of GetUp activities could be reasonably regarded as of some “benefit” to the ‘left’ parties (e.g. the anti-Coalition Senate campaign in the ACT prior to the 2007 election). However, the AEC also notes that many of the activities of GetUp appear to be solely issue based rather than supporting or advocating support for a particular registered party political.

The AEC is of the view that the present information and available evidence is unlikely to be sufficient to enable a Court in a criminal prosecution to find that GetUp is operating “wholly, or to a significant extent” for the benefit of either/both the Australian Labor Party and/or the Greens.

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chewy14 2:05 pm
23 Oct 12
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The Greens and GetUp aren’t related…. they just simply agree on issues a lot.

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LSWCHP 2:06 pm
23 Oct 12
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Skidbladnir said :

SnapperJack said :

Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

1) Way to go on the Godwin’s Law there, buddy.

2) The AEC’s position on GetUp in 2005
[GetUp] do[es] not appear to be controlled by one or more registered political parties, nor do[es it] appear to operate wholly or to a significant extent to the benefit of one or more registered political parties. In particular, the currently available information does not show a real or actual benefit to any party or parties, nor does it show a sufficiently direct link between the entities and any political party or parties.

3) The AEC’s more thorough position as at 2010 when the matter was again referred
AEC conclusion
The AEC has reviewed the previous information in its possession together with the additional material that has come into the public domain since 2006. The results of this review are that there is still no information or available evidence to show that GetUp meets any of the six grounds set out in the definition of an “associated entity” contained in subsection 287(1) of the Electoral Act.

The AEC has also considered the previous information in its possession and the lists of all the GetUp campaigns set out on its website. The AEC readily acknowledges that many of GetUp activities could be reasonably regarded as of some “benefit” to the ‘left’ parties (e.g. the anti-Coalition Senate campaign in the ACT prior to the 2007 election). However, the AEC also notes that many of the activities of GetUp appear to be solely issue based rather than supporting or advocating support for a particular registered party political.

The AEC is of the view that the present information and available evidence is unlikely to be sufficient to enable a Court in a criminal prosecution to find that GetUp is operating “wholly, or to a significant extent” for the benefit of either/both the Australian Labor Party and/or the Greens.

You know Skid, I think you really are the smartest guy in this room. I’d like to buy you a beer sometime.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 2:15 pm
23 Oct 12
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460cixy said :

SnapperJack said :

Thank you Simon for confirming what we all knew about GetUp! The Libs were right when they called GetUp! the Hitler Youth wing of the Australian Greens movement.

So very true

I guess you seem to be even dimmer than snapper jack then.

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LegalNut 2:19 pm
23 Oct 12
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Oh. My. God! An organisation that is clearly focussed on issues that are to the left of the political spectum has a former leader who has view that are more closely aligned to the Greens than the Liberals. I’m shocked!

For goodness sake, this isn’t anything surprising, it isn’t a conspiracy and just because you don’t agree that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

Frankly, Gary Humphrey’s hasn’t actually done anything useful recently. He has gotten stale and I wouldn’t mind seeing a change. Simon Sheikh is passionate, dedicate and appears to work hard to achieve his goals. That’s something I’m happy to get behind.

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Devil_n_Disquiz 2:43 pm
23 Oct 12
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I had to google Godwin’s Law. #justsayin

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Mysteryman 3:30 pm
23 Oct 12
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LegalNut said :

Oh. My. God! An organisation that is clearly focussed on issues that are to the left of the political spectum has a former leader who has view that are more closely aligned to the Greens than the Liberals. I’m shocked!

For goodness sake, this isn’t anything surprising, it isn’t a conspiracy and just because you don’t agree that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

Frankly, Gary Humphrey’s hasn’t actually done anything useful recently. He has gotten stale and I wouldn’t mind seeing a change. Simon Sheikh is passionate, dedicate and appears to work hard to achieve his goals. That’s something I’m happy to get behind.

While it’s not surprising, it’s certainly deceptive and a little under-handed. Especially when considering the constant claims by GetUp! that they are not a political organisation. They obviously are. This sort of behaviour speaks volumes to their credibility.

Also, it seems you don’t understand the role of the Senate, or of Senators. Perhaps you should look into what they actually do before making comments about how “useful” they are. I notice you didn’t comment on Kate Lundy’s usefulness. What do you think it is that she is doing that pleases you so much?

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