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Take a bow Sgt Bungers as the speed signage gets a fix

By 18 April 2013 15

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Shane Rattenbury has announced that the one man crusade to get speed signage in the ACT standards compliant is paying off:

Work is now underway to update speed limit signage on arterial roads in the ACT, Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, Shane Rattenbury, announced today.

“Roads ACT reviewed speed limit signage last year to ensure our road signage is consistent across the ACT arterial road network and positioned in accordance with the latest Australian standards,” Mr Rattenbury said.

“The review identified some key areas in which speed limit signage could be improved. This included additional speed limit signs on some sections of road, ensuring signs are erected independently on a standalone post, and having a sign on each side of a carriageway where speed limits change.

“As a result of the review, Roads ACT is introducing additional speed limit signage and making some adjustments to existing signage.

“These changes will further clarify the speed limit applying on a particular section of road and reduce confusion for motorists.

“Roads ACT will also install new speed limit signs at 164 locations across Canberra in the coming weeks (weather permitting), to ensure consistency with the relevant Australian Standard.

Hidden down the bottom is the exciting news that some GDE ramps are getting their speed limits bumped from 60 to 80.

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15 Responses to Take a bow Sgt Bungers as the speed signage gets a fix
#1
p110:47 am, 18 Apr 13

I wonder if that is what some dudes were installing a pole here for this morning?

#2
Sgt.Bungers11:01 am, 18 Apr 13

It’s great to see that things are finally happening.

Hopefully, once the arterial roads are fixed, the A.C.T’s rather average 50 km/h urban speed limit implementation will also be reviewed.

Can anyone confirm if Whyalla Street in Fyshwick is still 60 km/h one way and 50 km/h the other? I haven’t driven past there for a while. It’s been that way since mid 2003.

#3
HiddenDragon11:14 am, 18 Apr 13

Anyone who can come up with such an awesomely punchy blogonym is clearly a force to be reckoned with – as, of course, is the RiotAct, which, I take it, was the public voice of some, if not all, of this campaign.

#4
arescarti4211:18 am, 18 Apr 13

Congratulations Sgt.Bungers!

You’ve done a great service to the community, and are an inspiration to us all.

#5
magiccar911:34 am, 18 Apr 13

Sgt.Bungers said :

Can anyone confirm if Whyalla Street in Fyshwick is still 60 km/h one way and 50 km/h the other? I haven’t driven past there for a while. It’s been that way since mid 2003.

It’s the same thing along Anketel St in Tuggeranong. Along the front of the Hyperdome is 50 one side and 60 the other. I thought it was just me assuming I had missed the sign, but upon further inspection there was no sign changing one side from 60 down to 50 to match the oncoming lane. Makes me laugh every time I drive along there.

#6
harvyk11:03 pm, 18 Apr 13

But if the signage is now clear, how can they catch out unsuspecting “speeders” who did nothing more than the most heinous of crimes “unable to read the warped twisted minds of those in charge who set the rules of the road.”

#7
Deref1:07 pm, 18 Apr 13

Good work Sgt. Bungers! :-)

#8
shirty_bear2:14 pm, 18 Apr 13

Sgt.Bungers said :

Can anyone confirm if Whyalla Street in Fyshwick is still 60 km/h one way and 50 km/h the other? I haven’t driven past there for a while. It’s been that way since mid 2003.

Went and drove it specifically with this question in mind … and I still don’t know for sure. Probably boils down to how the “50 unless otherwise stated” rule works. I haven’t gone out of my way to find out, and it sure hasn’t been well publicised. (A bit like these “Shared Zones” we see about the place … all of a sudden they were just there.)

In one direction (entering from Canberra Ave, which is 80), Whyalla St is clearly marked as 50. In the other (entering from Newcastle St, which is 60), there is no signage. Similarly, Barrier St has no signage (westbound, at least). Does the default 50 apply in both cases? I’d be happy to speculate that it does. Trouble is, we shouldn’t be left to speculate on crap like this. Also raises the question of why signpost 50 in one direction if default is acceptable in the other?

Congrats on fighting the good fight, Sarge.

#9
460cixy2:34 pm, 18 Apr 13

p1 said :

I wonder if that is what some dudes were installing a pole here for this morning?

I spotted the new posts the other day looks like they will have that big scary dangerous road down to 50kph in no time and extra mobile cameras for our own safety of course

#10
Sgt.Bungers6:10 pm, 18 Apr 13

shirty_bear said :

Sgt.Bungers said :

Can anyone confirm if Whyalla Street in Fyshwick is still 60 km/h one way and 50 km/h the other? I haven’t driven past there for a while. It’s been that way since mid 2003.

Went and drove it specifically with this question in mind … and I still don’t know for sure. Probably boils down to how the “50 unless otherwise stated” rule works. I haven’t gone out of my way to find out, and it sure hasn’t been well publicised. (A bit like these “Shared Zones” we see about the place … all of a sudden they were just there.)

In one direction (entering from Canberra Ave, which is 80), Whyalla St is clearly marked as 50. In the other (entering from Newcastle St, which is 60), there is no signage. Similarly, Barrier St has no signage (westbound, at least). Does the default 50 apply in both cases? I’d be happy to speculate that it does. Trouble is, we shouldn’t be left to speculate on crap like this. Also raises the question of why signpost 50 in one direction if default is acceptable in the other?

Congrats on fighting the good fight, Sarge.

Thanks! You saved me a trip out there :-)

I’d say that the 50 km/h urban default is now being re-enforced as motorists enter Whyalla St from Canberra Ave, as this is the direction that up until a few months ago had 60 km/h signs.

To be compliant with Aust. Standards, a 50 km/h sign is required at any point where a motorist may turn off a higher speed road, onto an urban road with the default urban speed limit. Turning off a 50 km/h street onto another 50 km/h street, no sign is required.

For Whyalla St to be fully compliant, a 50 km/h sign would be required at both the Canberra Ave and Newcastle St ends.

At least now, 50 km/h applies both ways.

#11
Sgt.Bungers6:11 pm, 18 Apr 13

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

#12
bigred10:23 pm, 18 Apr 13

so what is the speed zone on Kambah Pool Road when turning from Namatjira Dr?

#13
tim_c8:31 am, 19 Apr 13

bigred said :

so what is the speed zone on Kambah Pool Road when turning from Namatjira Dr?

I’d guess it must be 100 km/h (based on the spacing of the street lights) unless sign-posted otherwise?!

The one that always has me wondering is when you enter a school-zone, signposted at 40km/h, and then you turn onto another street, since there is no other sign, it must revert back to default 50km/h even though you are now passing the school?! (eg. Mugga Way and turn onto Alexander St or Flinders Way, Red Hill or Blackwood Tce and turn onto Mulley St, Holder)

#14
bundah8:56 am, 19 Apr 13

A friend was stopped by the plod for doing approx 60 km/h on Gladstone St and after he challenged the assertion by the plod that it was 50 km/h who then checked with other plod to clear it up he was given the benefit of the doubt.So it’s about time they’re addressing the anomolies.

#15
steveu9:19 am, 19 Apr 13

Great work Bungers.

Shame that our MLA’s in their arrogance chose their own pretty time to address this.

I would love to know how many TINs have been challenged in court over this massive oversight.

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