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Toot Toot! High Speed Rail to include Canberra. (If it happens)

By johnboy - 4 August 2011 44

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The much leaked High Speed Rail Study has been released to the public and fortunately Canberra has been included on the Brisbane-Melbourne mega route.

But before anyone gets excited this “Phase One” report doesn’t touch on financial viability, that will have to wait for “Phase Two”, which is expected in mid 2012 (all before a single sleeper is laid).

But if it does get built they’re talking about stops at both Civic and Canberra Airport.

What’s Your opinion?


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Toot Toot! High Speed Rail to include Canberra. (If it happens)
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churl 3:15 pm
04 Aug 11
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If I recall correctly, the last time this idea surfaced, the plan was to go souteast from Canberra, via Gippsland, to Melbourne?
This inland route would presumably be cheaper and perhaps faster?
The coast route might make it easier to deliver Sydneysiders to the snow (branch line)?

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caf 3:27 pm
04 Aug 11
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The Hume Highway appears to be missing from that map.

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qbngeek 3:46 pm
04 Aug 11
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caf said :

The Hume Highway appears to be missing from that map.

I was looking at it thinking ‘Isn’t there a major road missing somewhere’

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qbngeek 3:49 pm
04 Aug 11
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churl said :

If I recall correctly, the last time this idea surfaced, the plan was to go souteast from Canberra, via Gippsland, to Melbourne?
This inland route would presumably be cheaper and perhaps faster?
The coast route might make it easier to deliver Sydneysiders to the snow (branch line)?

If it is viable for a snow route to run then you could run a branch line from Canberra or Tumut (with the addition of an appropriate stop of course).

I think a Tumut – Perisher – Jindy route could work. Snowtube from Perisher to Thredbo.

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colourful sydney rac 3:51 pm
04 Aug 11
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I really hope this happens – it would be all kinds of awesome.

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johnboy 3:54 pm
04 Aug 11
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Mountains and high speed rail do not make good bedfellows.

Not that it’s stopped the Japanese.

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Tetranitrate 4:15 pm
04 Aug 11
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I’ll believe it when I see it. I remember hearing about plans for a Sydney-Canberra high speed rail link to be completed ‘in time for the Sydney Olympics’.

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johnboy 4:17 pm
04 Aug 11
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Tetranitrate said :

I’ll believe it when I see it. I remember hearing about plans for a Sydney-Canberra high speed rail link to be completed ‘in time for the Sydney Olympics’.

Well, we all said that about the Alice-Darwin route, and then John Howard actually did it.

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peterepete 4:20 pm
04 Aug 11
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At that price we should get two. Maybe we can choose between fibre or rail connectivity?

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Classified 4:50 pm
04 Aug 11
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I don’t think the current government has it in them to run with something like this. It would be good if they did, though, I’d definitely use it. Imagine the convenience of doing Canberra to Sydney city centres in 90 minutes or so without stuffing around at the airports.

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grunge_hippy 4:59 pm
04 Aug 11
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they’ve been talking about this since I was a kid… and I haven’t been a kid in a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time. well, at least chronologically.

i somehow don’t think it will be in my lifetime.

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ozmaniac 5:11 pm
04 Aug 11
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It will never happen. Not enough usage to justify the cost. And cost is the only thing that will be considered.

Besides, can you see al the states agreeing? They would probably squabble over what gauge to use, like they did after Federation years ago. That petulance must have put this country 70 years behind.

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Henry82 5:26 pm
04 Aug 11
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From my experience taking countrylink, the cityrail network would be the major bottleneck. It really needs to be financially and time competitive against greyhound/murrays

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Postalgeek 5:49 pm
04 Aug 11
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I’d be happy with medium speed rail, or even all-the-way rail.

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Ryoma 6:04 pm
04 Aug 11
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I’d like (not that I expect to see it) both an inland and a coastal route approved, especially if our population heads towards 36 million by 2050.

We have a cultural desire to live by the coast, and I see no sign that that desire will fade over time. The NSW South Coast would love to grow, but at present is relatively isolated, as is East Gippsland in Victoria. Yes, I appreciate that there are environmental issues in running a track down there, but generating wealth also provides the manpower and resources to be able to really maintain the wilderness qualities of nationa parks etc, rather than having them become giant swathes of weeds and feral animals.

On the other hand, the Riverina is a food bowl – and quite important to Canberra for that reason. Without a viable population base west of the mountains, we’d be buying food from a lot further away.
I think a tunneling option to Tumut – and a station there – would be real nation building. Just like the South Coast, at present it is not on the way to anywhere, but the investment unleashed by having such a link could do wonders for the whole of the Eastern Riverina, and take the pressure off Wagga and Albury. Having a third regional city by 2050 would also allow other small towns in the area to flourish.

But the bean-counters already seem to have ruled it out in the report (sigh). I’d like to see us build something in recognition of what is possible, and creates benefits on a broad front, not just taking the cheapest, nastiest option and then wondering why our rural areas are dying and our cities choked with congestion.

Having the two routes would also allow for greater use of the trains to run in a circular pattern if need be, which strikes me as being more efficient.

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