TOOT TOOT! Labor promises light rail and names it “Capital Metro”

By 21 September, 2012 76

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Angels and Ministers of Grace preserve us Katy Gallagher is committing Labor to light rail:

If re-elected in 2012, ACT Labor will establish the ACT’s first large-scale private sector partnership to plan, finance and develop the first stage of a Light Rail Network for Canberra – the Capital Metro.

[Photo by Justin Ruckman CC BY 2.0]


UPDATE 21/09/12 10:50 Chic Henry has shared his thoughts and we’ll all be rooned:

So far, Labour hasn’t shown that it is very good at the business basics and if they aren’t careful, they and the dreamtime (Greentime) aspirations of their Green associates will send the City broke.


UPDATE 21/09/12 12:34: Two more reactions:

1. The Greens are chalking this up to their leadership.

2. Carbon emissions advocates Canberra Loves 40% also love Canberra Metro but want to hear from the Liberals.

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76 Responses to TOOT TOOT! Labor promises light rail and names it “Capital Metro”
#1
davo1019:27 am, 21 Sep 12

Ah, so that’s the plan to triple our rates–not so secret now.

#2
Cheap9:27 am, 21 Sep 12

Is light rail really all that faster than bus? It’s still travelling down roads and having to stop at traffic lights, no?

#3
jase!9:34 am, 21 Sep 12

can’t really see this happening but if it does then run it past the airport, hell do a deal with nsw and get our friends across the border on board too

#4
poetix9:38 am, 21 Sep 12

We’ll probably be sued by the French for misuse of the word metro.

#5
kevin229:46 am, 21 Sep 12

Election is looming, and Labor promise something they cannot deliver. I can’t see this will take off for another 10 years. No thanks Labor, I prefer Rapid Transit version better.

#6
stillflying9:50 am, 21 Sep 12

I think it’ll be worth it in the long run.

#7
Thumper10:03 am, 21 Sep 12

Angels and Ministers of Grace preserve us Katy Gallagher is committing Labor to light rail:

They are worried, very worried.

#8
kakosi10:03 am, 21 Sep 12

It was on the Burley Griffin original plan for Canberra…but then again on that plan it says “casino” around the spot the war memorial currently stands :)

I’d prefer a hospital system that doesn’t have a 50/50 chance of killing or disabling you when you go in for simple procedures or even the flu.

#9
arescarti4210:10 am, 21 Sep 12

I’ll believe it when I see it.

#10
mmillercfp10:10 am, 21 Sep 12

It will be interesting to see the proposals for the private sector partnership develop.

There are a number of institutions, and members of the public, with the capital to contribute to these sorts of projects if it is structured appropriately.

#11
johnboy10:18 am, 21 Sep 12

For some reason it comes to mind that the US built its first railways by giving the private partners all the land surrounding the tracks.

#12
stillflying10:25 am, 21 Sep 12

kakosi said :

I’d prefer a hospital system that doesn’t have a 50/50 chance of killing or disabling you when you go in for simple procedures or even the flu.

You are exaggerating. Which most Australians seem incapable of understanding is that our healthcare system is actually pretty bloody good, as are our hospitals. The staff there work under many pressures and do so amazingly.

Also, if you are going into the hospital when you have the flu, you are part of the problem. Hospitals are for emergencies and the really sick. If you’re sick go to your GP, drink lots of fluids and stay in bed, don’t bog the hospital up.

#13
Reprobate10:27 am, 21 Sep 12

Sigh. One full page of breathless announcements about light rail for Gungahlin and buses in Belco, but Tuggeranong? Woden to Erindale and Tuggeranong inprovements may be “an option for the second and subsequent stages”.

Nice.

#14
mmillercfp10:29 am, 21 Sep 12

johnboy said :

For some reason it comes to mind that the US built its first railways by giving the private partners all the land surrounding the tracks.

I suspect a few of the body corporates along Northbourne Ave would object to this option!

#15
Mysteryman10:37 am, 21 Sep 12

So in 11 years they’ve done sweet FA to get light rail going, but one month out from the election they expect us to believe that it’s a priority for them and they’ll actually deliver it?

Get real, Katy. Not buying it.

#16
steveu10:48 am, 21 Sep 12

Reprobate said :

Sigh. One full page of breathless announcements about light rail for Gungahlin and buses in Belco, but Tuggeranong? Woden to Erindale and Tuggeranong inprovements may be “an option for the second and subsequent stages”.

Nice.

Simple. Lets vote them out. I too am growing weary of all the money being thrown to the northside to buy votes whilst they ignore the southside. And no, a 30 year plan to sell off the tuggeranong lakeside area isnt gonna cut it.

#17
Thumper10:48 am, 21 Sep 12

Mysteryman said :

So in 11 years they’ve done sweet FA to get light rail going, but one month out from the election they expect us to believe that it’s a priority for them and they’ll actually deliver it?

Get real, Katy. Not buying it.

This.

#18
Innovation10:50 am, 21 Sep 12

Did they ever provide details of their preliminary costings? If there is such a distinct price gap between bus and light rail (which I doubt) how can they now justify light rail? And another three (plus) years to implement including another study and who knows how many more years before other areas are connected if ever? If they were spade ready now I would have been much happier.

On the other hand the private partnership looks like a good idea. Presumably drivers (or controllers if the whole thing is automated) will be private employees and the heavily subsidised ACTION will be relegated to just driving in and out of suburbs to the nearest rail stop. They won’t need very big buses then.

I think Zed commented on the radio this morning that he felt there was a large number of apathetic voters. I wonder if, rather than apathetic, he meant disillusioned………

#19
shirty_bear10:52 am, 21 Sep 12

Reprobate said :

Woden to Erindale and Tuggeranong inprovements may be “an option for the second and subsequent stages”.

I can see it already – will be a whole separate line. With a different gauge track.

#20
Rawhide Kid Part310:53 am, 21 Sep 12

johnboy said :

For some reason it comes to mind that the US built its first railways by giving the private partners all the land surrounding the tracks.

Wasn’t that called an incentive?

#21
johnboy10:53 am, 21 Sep 12

We’ve now got Chic Henry’s thoughts.

#22
JessP10:54 am, 21 Sep 12

Thumper said :

Angels and Ministers of Grace preserve us Katy Gallagher is committing Labor to light rail:

They are worried, very worried.

arescarti42 said :

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Mysteryman said :

So in 11 years they’ve done sweet FA to get light rail going, but one month out from the election they expect us to believe that it’s a priority for them and they’ll actually deliver it?

Get real, Katy. Not buying it.

Election? Soon? Really??

Jeez…imagine how high our rates will need to be for this!!

Bye bye Katy

#23
Truthiness11:07 am, 21 Sep 12

Such blatant pandering to the metrosexual vote, next thing you know we’ll be letting them get married!

Can’t wait for the tram vs bus races down northbourne, looks like we’ll be getting a drag strip after all.

#24
joingler11:14 am, 21 Sep 12

steveu said :

Reprobate said :

Sigh. One full page of breathless announcements about light rail for Gungahlin and buses in Belco, but Tuggeranong? Woden to Erindale and Tuggeranong inprovements may be “an option for the second and subsequent stages”.

Nice.

Simple. Lets vote them out. I too am growing weary of all the money being thrown to the northside to buy votes whilst they ignore the southside. And no, a 30 year plan to sell off the tuggeranong lakeside area isnt gonna cut it.

I reckon this would be partly due to the electoral boundaries. What I’d like to see is each town centre get it’s own seat with 2-3 seats for each centre depending on population. I find it ridiculous that the seat of Molonglo covers Bonner as well as Sterling. These two suburbs have nothing to do with each other and I find it hard to believe one candidate can represent the needs of Gungahlin, Inner South and Weston Creek. Currently the MLAs for Molonglo represent the needs of the large amount of voters (Gungahlin/Inner North) but ignore everyone else. I say this even though I live in Watson and work in Gungahlin.

On the actual topic though, Labor have done NOTHING about light rail for 11 years. They only mention it at election time. So because of this, they have now lost my vote. If they could actually be honest and say ‘we don’t support light rail’ then they MAY have still got it. But I refuse to vote for a party that will lie to the electorate to try and gain a few votes. Get lost Labor.

#25
aussielyn11:22 am, 21 Sep 12

It is good to hear East Lake & Barton being mentioned in this ACT Labor Policy. I know this is a long way down the track. Phase two maybe!
What is important to consider, besides the financing, is the rail gauge. We do not want history repeating itself. If the existing heavy rail gauge is used from the start, the carriages could potentially go to Bungendore & maybe Michelago. Thus, we will have an integrated transport mode that serves the region. Federal money should be forthcoming as this is in the bell-weather seat of Eden Monaro. Once Googong is populated, the Monaro Highway and Canberra Ave will be car parks in commuter hours.

#26
joingler11:23 am, 21 Sep 12

And another Labor screw up:

From: http://www.katygallagher.net/?p=2285

“ACT Labor is already delivering improvements to public transport, including the extension of Red Rapid services to the Kippax Group centre to service West Belconnen”

The Red Rapid service goes from Gungahlin to Fyshwick. It doesn’t get within 10km of Kippax.

Katy is referring to the Blue Rapid in this case which was one of the few good things her government has done.

Only a small error but still, a sign the Labor do not know their own public transport system

#27
fromthecapital11:35 am, 21 Sep 12

joingler said :

steveu said :

Reprobate said :

Sigh. One full page of breathless announcements about light rail for Gungahlin and buses in Belco, but Tuggeranong? Woden to Erindale and Tuggeranong inprovements may be “an option for the second and subsequent stages”.

Nice.

Simple. Lets vote them out. I too am growing weary of all the money being thrown to the northside to buy votes whilst they ignore the southside. And no, a 30 year plan to sell off the tuggeranong lakeside area isnt gonna cut it.

I reckon this would be partly due to the electoral boundaries. What I’d like to see is each town centre get it’s own seat with 2-3 seats for each centre depending on population. I find it ridiculous that the seat of Molonglo covers Bonner as well as Sterling. These two suburbs have nothing to do with each other and I find it hard to believe one candidate can represent the needs of Gungahlin, Inner South and Weston Creek. Currently the MLAs for Molonglo represent the needs of the large amount of voters (Gungahlin/Inner North) but ignore everyone else. I say this even though I live in Watson and work in Gungahlin.

On the actual topic though, Labor have done NOTHING about light rail for 11 years. They only mention it at election time. So because of this, they have now lost my vote. If they could actually be honest and say ‘we don’t support light rail’ then they MAY have still got it. But I refuse to vote for a party that will lie to the electorate to try and gain a few votes. Get lost Labor.

I’d love some light rail.

Can anyone provide a succinct history on their history of promises and study in this area?

#28
p112:19 pm, 21 Sep 12

jase! said :

can’t really see this happening but if it does then run it past the airport, hell do a deal with nsw and get our friends across the border on board too

Any plan for light rail which didn’t include Queanbeyan would be incredibly retarded. Which I imagine means any plan put out probably doesn’t.

#29
schmeah12:28 pm, 21 Sep 12

kakosi said :

I’d prefer a hospital system that doesn’t have a 50/50 chance of killing or disabling you when you go in for simple procedures or even the flu.

I must be one of the lucky ones then. Given I’ve had 2 stays at hospital in a 7 month period for more than 1 night, including going under the knife once and a stay in emergency, I really should thank my lucky stars that such terrible odds didn’t befall me .. or maybe you’re just talking through your a-hole.

#30
Truthiness12:38 pm, 21 Sep 12

Queenbyan and Gungahlin have similar population sizes, one of them has a pool, all sorts of services and infrastructure and is most importantly in another state.

Gungahlin needs its issues fixed before we roll rail out to Queenbyan .

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