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Townsend Place closing at night because we’re filthy grubs

By 4 May 2012 30

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Territory and Municipal Services are warning that they’re going to have to close Townsend Place in Belconnen at night to try and ward off the disgusting illegal dumpers.

The ACT Government wishes to advise that Townsend Place at the intersection with Aikman Drive in Belconnen will be closed between sunset and sunrise from Monday 7 May 2012.

The closure is to prevent illegal dumping and vandalism of John Knight Memorial park and the surrounding area.

In a perfect world we’d catch them and punish them until they stopped.


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30 Responses to Townsend Place closing at night because we’re filthy grubs
#1
dvaey11:20 am, 04 May 12

Now the rubbish will be dumped in front of the gate instead ..

#2
Mysteryman11:33 am, 04 May 12

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

#3
EvanJames12:07 pm, 04 May 12

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

#4
Thumper12:27 pm, 04 May 12

It’s a funny beats this illegal dumping, especailly when it is so easy to fix.

Have some coppers hang around until they catch someone. Fine them, oh, $20,000 and make sure it is splashed all over the pages of every newspaper, website, whatever, in Canberra.

People will get the message.

#5
RandomGit1:32 pm, 04 May 12

In a perfect world we’d catch them and punish them until they stopped.

+1

#6
Mysteryman1:43 pm, 04 May 12

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

#7
ThisIsAName1:59 pm, 04 May 12

Thumper said :

It’s a funny beats this illegal dumping, especailly when it is so easy to fix.

Have some coppers hang around until they catch someone. Fine them, oh, $20,000 and make sure it is splashed all over the pages of every newspaper, website, whatever, in Canberra. People will get the message.

I rang ACT policing about some dumping a few years ago & the officer said outright “we don’t touch illegal dumping”. This was despite having photographic evidence of the dumpers in action. It is easier to install a gate than have a City Rangers patrol in the hope of catching someone.

From the PDF:
“Illegal dumping of litter has been recognised as an issue in the ACT.”

How many years of dumping complaints did that take?

#8
p12:11 pm, 04 May 12

Mysteryman said :

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

Yup, cause no one who did National Service ever committed a antisocial act.

#9
p12:16 pm, 04 May 12

ThisIsAName said :

I rang ACT policing about some dumping a few years ago & the officer said outright “we don’t touch illegal dumping”. This was despite having photographic evidence of the dumpers in action.

Your mistake was reporting someone littering. You should have rung the police and reported seeing “suspicious looking” (possibly middle eastern) people dumping placing a “suspicious package”, and that you think it might be a road side bomb.

#10
shirty_bear2:22 pm, 04 May 12

Lazy kneejerk reaction by a witless, unmotivated administration … how great the folly to think that dumpers won’t just head elsewhere.

This sort of lazy bureaucracy drives me spare, mainly because there doesn’t seem to be thing one we can do about it. Well, not in real time, or anything approaching it.

#11
Mysteryman2:41 pm, 04 May 12

p1 said :

Mysteryman said :

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

Yup, cause no one who did National Service ever committed a antisocial act.

Did I say that the result would be no more antisocial acts? No. I did not. Don’t be an idiot.

#12
PBO2:54 pm, 04 May 12

p1 said :

Mysteryman said :

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

Yup, cause no one who did National Service ever committed a antisocial act.

I agree that compulsary military service could not hurt the issue at all, and i also agree with your reasoning as military service does teach you respect and dicipline as well as consequence.

Mysteryman, have you done any service? I’m not having a go at you but I think you will find that there is a much lower rate of criminal acts committed by ex service people. I am not saying that it does not happen but it certainly happens less often.

#13
Holditz3:12 pm, 04 May 12

Mysteryman said :

They are why we can’t have nice things.

That’s the problem. We have too many “nice things”.

#14
p13:12 pm, 04 May 12

Mysteryman said :

p1 said :

Mysteryman said :

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

Yup, cause no one who did National Service ever committed a antisocial act.

Did I say that the result would be no more antisocial acts? No. I did not. Don’t be an idiot.

Why not, everyone else on the internet is an idiot. I actually think that a suitably well thought out system such as a few of the countries you mentioned have could be of enormous benefit to our country – but throwing the suggestion out as a one liner in response to illegal dumping is pretty idiotic too.

#15
Deref5:31 pm, 04 May 12

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

A war on bogans? Now that’s a war I could get behind!

#16
switch7:18 pm, 04 May 12

Deref said :

A war on bogans? Now that’s a war I could get behind!

And I’ll get behind you :-)

#17
Sic8:15 pm, 04 May 12

Let’s just blame it on the disgusting badly planned old people community next door and call it a day.

#18
The Antichrist10:17 am, 06 May 12

Mysteryman said :

p1 said :

Yup, cause no one who did National Service ever committed a antisocial act.

Did I say that the result would be no more antisocial acts? No. I did not. Don’t be an idiot.

You did not use those exact words, but the implication was obvious to Blind Freddy.

Bung ‘em in the ADF and that will fix things. Not.

The solution to the dumping at JKMP could be as simple as some CCT cameras and a big f-off sign advising all those of boganish persuasion that there nocturnal dumps are being recorded / all rego plate details will be provided to the rozzers etc etc.

Then they can take their rubbish out to Gunners and dump it where it belongs ! ;)

#19
rosscoact7:07 pm, 06 May 12

Sic said :

Let’s just blame it on the disgusting badly planned old people community next door and call it a day.

What do you mean?

#20
FB8:52 am, 07 May 12

I know here is a radical solution. Lower tip fees! I am a responsible dumper and often do a tip run with my trailer. $20 a pop for ordinary stuff can get a bit much.

I recently moved house and did a tip run with an over filled trailer, $30, + two old matresses = $10 and two old CRT televisions = $45. $80 to take some things to the tip. No wonder people are dumping illegally.

#21
Baldy9:25 am, 07 May 12

Mysteryman said :

EvanJames said :

Mysteryman said :

Well that sucks. Dammit I hate bogans. They are why we can’t have nice things.

pretty much. Seems to be a growing segment of society with no stake in society, no engagement or identification with it.

We need a war.

Along those lines… I often think that compulsory military service for those in the 18-25 age range. A 6 or 12 month stint in the military, where upon completion you are entitled to certain rights (like the right to vote). I think it would do a lot for teaching people to respect others, themselves, and the country we live in.

I know a lot of people would disagree with the idea, but it seems to work quite well in Scandinavian countries, as well as places like Austria, Israel and Switzerland. Food for thought, I suppose.

Good idea. Teach them how to use various weapons more effectivly and give them free unarmed combat training. Best thing to do fpr these types. :D

#22
Baldy9:26 am, 07 May 12

p1 said :

ThisIsAName said :

I rang ACT policing about some dumping a few years ago & the officer said outright “we don’t touch illegal dumping”. This was despite having photographic evidence of the dumpers in action.

Your mistake was reporting someone littering. You should have rung the police and reported seeing “suspicious looking” (possibly middle eastern) people dumping placing a “suspicious package”, and that you think it might be a road side bomb.

LOL +1

#23
Baldy9:30 am, 07 May 12

FB said :

I know here is a radical solution. Lower tip fees! I am a responsible dumper and often do a tip run with my trailer. $20 a pop for ordinary stuff can get a bit much.

I recently moved house and did a tip run with an over filled trailer, $30, + two old matresses = $10 and two old CRT televisions = $45. $80 to take some things to the tip. No wonder people are dumping illegally.

This has been the most sensible suggestion so far. Why do we even pay tip fees in the first place? It should be a community service to decrease illegal dumping.

Why don’t the Greens come up with an idea how to do this?

#24
Erg09:44 am, 07 May 12

Baldy said :

Why do we even pay tip fees in the first place? It should be a community service to decrease illegal dumping.

Where do you think the money to fund this “community service” would be coming from? We’ll be paying for it one way or the other, and as someone who rarely uses the tip I’d prefer it to remain as a “user pays” system.

#25
TheDancingDjinn9:53 am, 07 May 12

FB said :

I know here is a radical solution. Lower tip fees! I am a responsible dumper and often do a tip run with my trailer. $20 a pop for ordinary stuff can get a bit much.

I recently moved house and did a tip run with an over filled trailer, $30, + two old matresses = $10 and two old CRT televisions = $45. $80 to take some things to the tip. No wonder people are dumping illegally.

This is probably why i have seen 15 crt televisions at kippax this weekend – all in one spot at the top of the carpark near woolies.

#26
PoQ11:25 am, 07 May 12

Doing the right thing, as compared to the easiest, or cheapest, is what separates responsible adults from bogans.

Civilisation imposes costs on everybody – “a thousand small inconveniences every day” – but the alternative is Hobbes’s “nasty, brutish and short” or being chased though John Knight Memorial Park by sabre-toothed tigers .

#27
calligraphy12:02 pm, 07 May 12

FB said :

I know here is a radical solution. Lower tip fees! I am a responsible dumper and often do a tip run with my trailer. $20 a pop for ordinary stuff can get a bit much.

I recently moved house and did a tip run with an over filled trailer, $30, + two old matresses = $10 and two old CRT televisions = $45. $80 to take some things to the tip. No wonder people are dumping illegally.

What’s happening with bulk rubbish collection? Last I heard it was being trialled for senior citizens. I know that a collection once a year is not ideal, but it’s better than nothing.

#28
p112:28 pm, 07 May 12

calligraphy said :

What’s happening with bulk rubbish collection? Last I heard it was being trialled for senior citizens. I know that a collection once a year is not ideal, but it’s better than nothing.

I know there is a shortage of aged care places, but leaving the folks out by the curb for council pickup seems a little harsh.

#29
Thumper12:30 pm, 07 May 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

FB said :

I know here is a radical solution. Lower tip fees! I am a responsible dumper and often do a tip run with my trailer. $20 a pop for ordinary stuff can get a bit much.

I recently moved house and did a tip run with an over filled trailer, $30, + two old matresses = $10 and two old CRT televisions = $45. $80 to take some things to the tip. No wonder people are dumping illegally.

This is probably why i have seen 15 crt televisions at kippax this weekend – all in one spot at the top of the carpark near woolies.

Yep, noticed this on Sunday morning.

Track these cretins down and fine them.

Lots.

#30
p13:44 pm, 07 May 12

Thumper said :

Track these cretins down and fine them.

Lots.

I hope that when the City Rangers are collecting them, they check to see if any have numbers engraved on them in case of theft…

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