25 November 2014

Two car accident in Charnwood

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ACT Fire & Rescue and ACT Ambulance Service are on scene at a two car accident at the corner of Ginninderra Drive and Tillyard Drive, Charnwood.

Firefighters have used hydraulic rescue tools to remove the roof of a car and extricate one male patient. Intensive Care Paramedics have stabilised the patient and are transporting him to the Canberra Hospital.

Three other patients were assessed at the scene but did not require transportation.

(ESA Media Release)

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house_husband7:18 am 03 Dec 14

Keijidosha said :

Let’s not forget that 2 years ago the government spent over $160,000 on ‘fixing’ this black spot. Those new line markings, curbs and signs have clearly made all the difference.

The only real fix would be lights and duplication of the eastbound section of Ginninderra Drive to Florey Drive.

Unfortunately the majority of casualty accidents in Canberra are like this. Someone not paying attention and t-boning or rear ending another car, usually at or below the speed limit. Would be nice to see the government put some strategy in place to try and deal with it. At a minimum there should be a mandatory 3 month loss of licence for causing, or contributing significantly to, a casualty crash.

house_husband7:08 am 03 Dec 14

apmwb said :

I was the driver of the silver falcon that was T Boned at the intersection as the story explains. My daughter and I were travelling east on Ginnenderra Drive (Not turning out of Tillyard as someone suggests)

Apologies for that. The other vehicle had been moved by the time I went through and your car/trailer were positioned in a such a way that it looked you had been turning out of Tillyard Drive. Didn’t consider the weight of the trailer could move it around that much.

Glad to hear you’re okay.

Let’s not forget that 2 years ago the government spent over $160,000 on ‘fixing’ this black spot. Those new line markings, curbs and signs have clearly made all the difference.

I was the driver of the silver falcon that was T Boned at the intersection as the story explains. My daughter and I were travelling east on Ginnenderra Drive (Not turning out of Tillyard as someone suggests) and were stuck by a vehicle from the opposite direction, who somehow didnt see us, nor our 400kg trailer, and attempted to turn right from Ginnenderra – therefore crashing into my drivers side of the car. Police reports given to us state that the driver does not blame the sun – just didnt pay attention. Due to the side impact, as well as the weight of the trailer we were towing, our vehicle was spun around to face oncoming traffic, and our trailer thown in the air landing on its side some meters way.

Suggest people find facts before assuming the circumstance.

We would like to thanks the fantastic work of the firies / ambos and police who attended / looked after our daughter while I was being cut out, and drove me to hospital. Also a HUGE word of thanks to the many people who stopped to assist – especially the first man on scene who calmed my daughter and called for an ambulance, and the lady who also calmed my daughter and called my wife.

PW

house_husband12:03 pm 02 Dec 14

JC said :

And yeah the lane should be extended to the roundabout, shouldn’t cost much, bridge already constructed, roundabout approach already two lane, just 300m of road.

Which is why I’m amazed given the bridge and roundabout approaches are there they haven’t done something now that Dunlop is effectively fully built.

Alas it probably won’t happen and if anything does happen it will likely end up like the multiple failed attempts to engineer Southern Cross Drive and Starke St near Kippax.

wildturkeycanoe9:13 pm 01 Dec 14

After conferring with my partner this afternoon I just have to add to this. She witnessed the results of no less than three accidents on her way home from CIT. This very same afternoon I was also almost run off the road by a Victorian driver who was first driving a little erratically [going over the dotted lines] and then decided to merge into my lane whilst I was still there. She had a passenger with her who I would have thought may have said something to prevent an accident but fortunately I got in front quickly enough to avoid a collision.
Again, what is happening to people on our roads when accident-causing behavior is a pretty regular occurrence? I will admit I am not a perfect angel on our roads, only turning demon after being “inconvenienced” by one of those who don’t know the road rules. But simple things like indicating in time before turning, not crossing solid lines, keeping left unless overtaking in 80+km/h zones, not using mobile phone, keeping up to the speed limit instead of dawdling at around 15km/h less…..so many more incorrect driving procedures will lead to crashes.
Being attentive, knowing what is happening around you and having the reflexes to prevent things from going wrong are what driving tests should be about. Knowing stopping distances and the legal BAC limit aren’t useful when the guy coming into your lane without looking knocks you into the kerb.

house_husband said :

I went past not long after this accident had happened. The car that was hit was turning right out of Tillyard into Ginninderra when a car travelling eastbound on Ginninderra t-boned it. Sun was low and would have made it harder to see the eastbound car even if it was travelling at the speed limit.

Best fix would be to extend westbound Ginninderra double lanes to Florey Drive, make the right hand lane turn right into Tillyard only, left lane westbound only and give traffic turning right into Ginninderra its own lane.

As I suspected, pretty common accident here.

As for the fix agree that cars coming out don’t speed up, but never seen an accident caused by this. And yeah the lane should be extended to the roundabout, shouldn’t cost much, bridge already constructed, roundabout approach already two lane, just 300m of road.

The accidents here are mostly like this one where cars turning right onto Gininderra Drive (and also right off Gininderra onto Tilyard) take too many risks because the opportunities for gaps are few and far between. If I need to go that way I always go down Lhotsky Drive and then Florey drive to avoid this very thing. This is nothing new either, I’ve lived in this area since the late 70’s and always did this, but when Dunlop got built that’s when the accidents started.

If I had a dollar for every time I have been headed east and have had a car turn in front of me causing me to take evasive action I would be wealthy. See it most mornings. Slowing traffic to 60kmh wouldn’t help either, would probably bunch vehicles more making less turning opportunities.

house_husband7:23 am 27 Nov 14

I went past not long after this accident had happened. The car that was hit was turning right out of Tillyard into Ginninderra when a car travelling eastbound on Ginninderra t-boned it. Sun was low and would have made it harder to see the eastbound car even if it was travelling at the speed limit.

My biggest problem with speed here is the number of vehicles that turn right into Ginninderra but don’t make any attempt to speed up to 80kmh by the merge point. By then you have multiple westbound cars in the left lane doing 80kmh about to merge with a car doing 60kmh. The numerous buses I can understand but cars have no excuse.

Best fix would be to extend westbound Ginninderra double lanes to Florey Drive, make the right hand lane turn right into Tillyard only, left lane westbound only and give traffic turning right into Ginninderra its own lane.

wildturkeycanoe5:45 pm 26 Nov 14

There was an accident at the intersection 50m up Tillyard about two weeks ago. In the last week I have seen at least four accidents on Southern Cross drive at the intersection with Starke Street and one on the O’Reilly St. intersection. On top of these, many more serious crashes have been reported on radio and word of mouth across Canberra.
What is wrong with drivers lately? Surely it cannot be the roads because they have been there for years, unchanged. For some reason crashes seem to have multiplied substantially in the last month or so. Is it silly season come a month early or some other explanation?

Never found speed to be an issue here. What is however is the traffic volumes at certain times make it almost impossible for vehicles to turn right off Tilyard Drive, especially buses to do so safely. End result is people take risks they shouldn’t. If there was an intersection that needs lights, then this would be up there.

God I hate this corner, the amount of times someone has nearly run up my a$se because they’re too busy doing 100kmph to notice a corner coming up… Needs some slow down lines or something due to all the idiots.

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