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Unseasoned Wood Burning?

By 1 July 2011 40

Does anyone know the avenues for dealing with a neighbour using unseasoned wood in their fire?  There is a person in our street who seems oblivious to the rest of society and is constantly using green unseasoned wood in his fire.  The smell is intolerable and the resultant air quality issues and subsequent need to re-wash clothing etc is becoming annoying.

I assume its a TAMS matter… i.e. nothing can/will be done in effect.

Thanks.

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40 Responses to Unseasoned Wood Burning?
#1
Sleaz27411:08 am, 01 Jul 11

Go to arts and crafts, learn how to weave…

Create eagle sized bird’s nest…

Under the cover of darkness place atop the chimney with 3 eggs inside…

Point out to wildlife rangers that your neighbour is killing off an endangered species. Laugh with much amusement as their house fills with smoke as your expertly tightly weaved nest prevents smoke from escaping the chimney.

Plan 2 Kill 9 possums and sew loosely together (not for the squeamish). Drop down chimney. Secretly film the result and send to funniest home videos. Collect cash prize.

#2
MrMagoo11:12 am, 01 Jul 11

Sleaz274 said :

Go to arts and crafts, learn how to weave…

Create eagle sized bird’s nest…

Under the cover of darkness place atop the chimney with 3 eggs inside…

Point out to wildlife rangers that your neighbour is killing off an endangered species. Laugh with much amusement as their house fills with smoke as your expertly tightly weaved nest prevents smoke from escaping the chimney.

Plan 2 Kill 9 possums and sew loosely together (not for the squeamish). Drop down chimney. Secretly film the result and send to funniest home videos. Collect cash prize.

to use the popular venacular…LOL. Although I do boggle at how your mind works… in a good way :)

#3
Jivrashia11:27 am, 01 Jul 11

dealing with a neighbour using unseasoned wood in their fire?

Seasoned wood? Is that what they’re called?

I don’t think use of seasoned wood is common knowledge, unless one has gone through the Queens Birthday bonfire festivities or Boy Scouts that teach you how to create a camp fire. The neighbour must be just as perplexed as to why their fire doesn’t burn so well.

#4
troll-sniffer11:38 am, 01 Jul 11

Methinks you need to visit one of the spice emporiums in town and invest in a range of herbs and spices. Once you have a suitable mix it’s then up to you whether you approach the neighbour seeking permission to treat their wood, or conduct a clandestine operation in the wee small hours of the morning.

I must admit I googled for suitable firewood seasoning recipes to help you but it seems it’s such a niche market that no-one is willing to divulge their secrets.

#5
aidan11:56 am, 01 Jul 11

I feel your pain, as I share it.

Goddam it can be stinky, starting coughing as soon as I went outside the other day. Nasty. Only takes a couple of minutes to make the sheets smell like a smoked kipper.

#6
Chaz12:25 pm, 01 Jul 11

Boo hoo! Cry a river

It’s a fire. Stop complaining because someone wants to heat their home. If you don’t like it, move

#7
nobody12:39 pm, 01 Jul 11

There are some ideas here.
http://woodsmokeincanberra.wordpress.com/

#8
nobody12:42 pm, 01 Jul 11

Also, the ACT Greens have been talking abut this problem.
http://act.greens.org.au/content/government’s-woodsmoke-program-does-half-job

#9
niftydog12:56 pm, 01 Jul 11

A very quick search at the ACT Government Entry Point lead me directly to this page which points out that it is prohibited under the Environment Protection Act.

#10
MrMagoo1:07 pm, 01 Jul 11

Chaz said :

Boo hoo! Cry a river

It’s a fire. Stop complaining because someone wants to heat their home. If you don’t like it, move

Are you serious? I’m not objecting to this person heating their home, I’m objecting to the fact that they use ‘green’ wood to do so thus causing an envionrmental hazzard to the neighbourhood you reactionist zealot. Try living adjacent to this all through winter, having to deal with re-washing everything and having your children coughing constantly. I actually own my house and won’t move because some twat is too goddammed lazy to be prepared for winter properly.

#11
Diggety1:44 pm, 01 Jul 11

“…who seems oblivious to the rest of society… “

TELL THEM.

Stop relying on Governments to do the most simplest of tasks for a human being: talk!

#12
Limp Jimmy2:24 pm, 01 Jul 11

Diggety said :

“…who seems oblivious to the rest of society… “

Oh the irony…

First decent thing is to go talk to them (isn’t that obvious?) — sounds like you might have missed this rather basic step? Going straight to the authorities and whining about it on a public forum is sad and lame.

Why don’t folks talk to their neighbours???

#13
wildturkeycanoe3:15 pm, 01 Jul 11

You Yuppieville wannabes don’t know how well you have it here in Canberra. Complain all you want about the smells in the air, but I think we’ve got it pretty good compared to Sydney, Melbourne, New York, Beijing. Wood smoke is something I grew up to love whilst living in a country town…the cat used to come in at night stinking of the stuff but I still let him lay on the end of my bed. That which man has done for thousands of years in order to cook, warm himself and generally just sit back and enjoy the pleasing qualities of has now become a bugbear of too many whingers with their own interests so high in the agenda.
Yeah, your washing gets all stinky. Don’t hang it up when the low pressure forces all the particulates to gather in the lower layers of our city. Wait for a sunny day with a bit of a breeze and the problem will blow over and your clothes will smell fresh [Or use a clothes dryer].
Consider that the neighbor probably can’t afford good dry red gum – at ridiculous prices – so is burning whatever they can get. Maybe it’s service station wood. Maybe it’s old pallets, left out in the rain. Not everyone can afford or get permission to convert their rental home heating to N.G or electric split systems so have a bit of heart instead of just spreading this stench over the internet.
Like recommended by others, talk to them and sort it out like in the old days.
P.S. Troll-sniffer – brilliant!!!!

#14
madamcholet3:39 pm, 01 Jul 11

Isn’t it strange how the ACT Government knows it’s an issue, particularly in Tuggeranong, but does not move to ban the sales of wood heaters. Plastic bags can be banned, why not wood heaters? With the increases in electricity rates, apparently they are flying out of the door this season. In my house we have all had breathing related ailments resulting in extremely expensive medication. We too have prolific fire starters on our side of the street and it doesn’t have to be that cold for them to stoke it up either. It’s plainly a health and evironmental hazard that needs to be more suitably addressed.

#15
BimboGeek5:02 pm, 01 Jul 11

I only became aware that this problem exist through this website. Suck it up, princess!

#16
MissChief5:32 pm, 01 Jul 11

Perhaps the Government could create a no smell zone where people who are hyper-sensitive about smells can go to live together?

The lady who complained on here a few weeks ago about car-pooling with a smoker could go there to live and the lady I used to work with who didn’t like anyone wearing perfume…. oh and that other nutter (someone mentioned here) who couldn’t stand the smell of bananas.

Seriously, if that’s all people have to complain about, life can’t be too bad.

#17
madamcholet6:36 pm, 01 Jul 11

Typical RA respondents at work again I see. Such narrow mindedness as usual – “I’m alright so I don’t care about anyone else”.

As someone who has had hayfever this year to the extent that it makes life an endurance test on some days, it’s not nice to then be faced with a winter of scratchy throats, sinus problems and asthma – caused by the pollution from woodfires. And I don’t want this for my son either. If people just extended themselves to think beyond their own front door, then we may see some improvements.

#18
niknak9:00 pm, 01 Jul 11

In this over-sanitised, paternalistic society, woodsmoke is about the only genuine smell we have left.

Gutsy, hearty, real.

Crack a can. If you haven’t got the cojones to go next door and suggest your neighbour uses dry wood, or ducted gas heating, or electric reverse cycle heating, suck it up. Literally. It’s not a TAMS problem.

By the way, there’s no such thing as ‘clean” energy. Cause and effect, ‘n all that. Someone, somewhere, is suffering energy displacement. Why shouldn’t it be you?

#19
niknak9:10 pm, 01 Jul 11

…and another thing!

If a bit of woodsmoke is going to see you off this mortal coil, consider it nothing more than survival of the fittest.

Nature’s quite ruthless about natural selection, unlike modern medicine. If you can’t get through winter without your throat closing over and your lungs seizing up, really, what are you adding to the gene pool?

#20
gazket9:17 pm, 01 Jul 11

how do you know it’s green wood. maybe they don’t burn enough wood to get the fire burning properly. some people don’t know how wood fires work. more flames/heat = less smoke

#21
SOLIPSISTIC10:01 pm, 01 Jul 11

niknak said :

In this over-sanitised, paternalistic society, woodsmoke is about the only genuine smell we have left.

Gutsy, hearty, real.

Crack a can. If you haven’t got the cojones to go next door and suggest your neighbour uses dry wood, or ducted gas heating, or electric reverse cycle heating, suck it up. Literally. It’s not a TAMS problem.

By the way, there’s no such thing as ‘clean” energy. Cause and effect, ‘n all that. Someone, somewhere, is suffering energy displacement. Why shouldn’t it be you?

AMEN! I know I should not use someone’s post as a blog off the subject but I simply agree whole heartedly with niknak’s comment. Cheers to you sir!

#22
caf10:35 pm, 01 Jul 11

I would suggest to the OP that it falls into the “right to quiet enjoyment” basket, and as such is a police matter (just like noise pollution).

#23
Walker12:00 am, 02 Jul 11

I’ve had a lot of problems with the smoke, I’m not asthmatic but I do breathe air now and then.

In fact I like the smell of a proper burning fire, within reason. Burning hot, so it sucks up (..princess).

That’s one thing. But there are problems when it’s done by people determined to burn anything in sight. In years past I’ve seen Dickson oval fumigated, with people trying to play sport. I had to shut the car air vents to get through it. Breathing is believing.

It’s not always easy to spot the source at night. Anyone out there enjoying a fire, I just ask, please burn it nice and hot at least to start with, get it really going, and use the right stuff.

#24
Auntyem7:49 am, 02 Jul 11

If it truly is ‘unseasoned’ wood – the sap will stick to the inside of the chimney. This happened to a neighbour of mine a few years back. Too much unseasoned wood, sap in the chimney stack – the inside of the chimney caught fire. We helped hose it down, but it made a stinking mess of their house when the water came down the chimney and washed through the lounge room.

Just sit back and wait for the drama to unfold…

#25
Watson9:45 am, 02 Jul 11

I love the smell of a good campfire as much as the next person. But I wonder how many people enjoy sitting around a smoky stinky fire?

I’ve lived near people who will burn anything and everything in their fireplaces. The worst is the chemical smells from paints and varnishes.

And there is one small problem with asking the neighbours face to face to change their ways first. If you plan to take it further if they don’t comply with your request, they’d know that it was you dobbing them in with the authorities lateron. Hardly a great move towards a civil relationship with your neighbours.

#26
Tooks11:46 am, 02 Jul 11

How about you go and knock on the neighbour’s door and have a chat with them about it? You know, like an adult with basic social skills?

#27
GardeningGirl12:29 pm, 02 Jul 11

If some of the comments on this thread are indicative of what might greet me if I were to knock on a neighbour’s door to discuss how operating their wood heater properly would alleviate my physical discomfort then I’d definitely choose to leave it to the authorities.

madamcholet said :

Such narrow mindedness as usual – “I’m alright so I don’t care about anyone else”.

Says it all really :-(

#28
Diggety12:35 pm, 02 Jul 11

Niknak for Prime Minister.

Common sense is too uncommon.

#29
Watson12:59 pm, 02 Jul 11

niknak said :

…and another thing!

If a bit of woodsmoke is going to see you off this mortal coil, consider it nothing more than survival of the fittest.

Nature’s quite ruthless about natural selection, unlike modern medicine. If you can’t get through winter without your throat closing over and your lungs seizing up, really, what are you adding to the gene pool?

Yeah, let’s close our hospitals and doctor’s practices now! Survival of the fittest is the way to go. *rolls eyes*

#30
Nightshade6:07 pm, 02 Jul 11

MrMagoo, to answer your original question, the Environment Protection Authority deals with nuisance woodsmoke issues. Contact them by calling Canberra Connect and saying that you want to speak to someone about a woodsmoke problem (or lodge a complaint about it, if you’re at that point), and they will transfer you to the appropriate people. The rangers who investigate these complaints are the same ones who deal with barking dog complaints etc.

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