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Where did you get your licence?

By 19 January 2014 166

Dear Rioters,

After spending the last month driving up and down the south coast with the wife and kids, I’ve observed many thousands of Canberrans holidaying during the festive season, so I feel I am in a good position to make this statement – ACT drivers are not only bad, they’re disrespectful of everyone else.

Here are some examples of what I’ve encountered over the last 5 weeks:

(1)  Keep left unless overtaking. A very simple concept that Canberrans don’t understand. I couldn’t tell you how many ACT rego plates I saw hogging the right hand lane whilst not overtaking, or actually driving slower than the drivers in left lane.

(2)  Talking on a mobile phone whilst driving. Again, I saw many ACT plated vehicles with their driver holding a phone to their ear. Some of them were driving in the right hand lane.

(3)  Canberrans with boats who can’t reverse them properly onto a boat ramp. Unfortunately for the locals who make a crust fishing, they have had a frustrating battle since Xmas with Canberra retards who don’t know how to back a boat trailer. If you own a boat, caravan or trailer, learn how to drive, reverse and park them.

(4)  Canberrans parking in loading zones or handicapped spaces. The laziness of Canberrans never ceases to amaze me. Unless you have a legitimate reason for parking in a handicapped parking space (not being able to back a boat trailer isn’t a legitimate reason), don’t park there. There are many retired people with disabilities living on the coast who really need those carparks.

I’m seriously thinking of registering my car in NSW next year so I’m not tarred with the same brush as the wankers I’ve mentioned above.

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166 Responses to
Where did you get your licence?
lumpy 5:43 pm
19 Jan 14
#1

Drove back to Wollongong this past weekend, partner did a tricky reverse park in a tight restaurant carpark, where of course all patrons were sitting by looking on. First person who comments as we hop out, “I was a bit worried for a second there when I saw the ACT number plates”. Go figure.

JC 6:01 pm
19 Jan 14
#2

Interesting with the exception of number 3 (not owing a boat I have never noticed it myself), all the other driving issues you seem to have you see on the road on a daily basis. ACT plates, NSW plates, Victorian, you name it. Maybe you seem to think it is just an ACT driver thing because you were down the south coast when half the population down there is from the ACT so it just stood out more rather than just being an ACT thing.

You also forgot one, speeding though road works. Driving on the M5 just today hardly anyone slowed to the 80km/h limit. But yeah they were mostly NSW drivers so guess it doesn’t count.

c_c™ 6:13 pm
19 Jan 14
#3

Oh gosh, No 1. It used to be the convention that on foot and behind the wheel, you keep left unless passing. And on the roads, it’s the law. But everyday theres drivers in the right lane, not needing to make a right turn, just hogging the right lane doing below the speed limit on dual carriage way.

Also annoying is when they do it at lights, slow truck takes the left lane, slow car takes right lane. On the green light traffic is stuffed. No one going anywhere.

cranky 6:21 pm
19 Jan 14
#4

ACT Gov should sell tickets to watch the trailer reversing antics at the Mugga Lane tip.

Incompetence rampant! But a hoot to watch – whilst patiently waiting your turn :-)

Tarinedier 6:22 pm
19 Jan 14
#5

There’s 2 factors at work here:

1) Interstate drivers who aren’t as familiar with the surroundings, and are out of their usual element.
2) Interstate numberplates which are a focal point for stereotyping behaviour as they stand out as ‘different’.

You will find these 2 factors common to any area and group of drivers, the same as you will find morons and bad drivers anywhere.

m00nee 6:30 pm
19 Jan 14
#6

since we see this behaviour on the roads every day it is no surprise that Canberra drivers behave like this everywhere. The only thing I would add is their complete inability to understand how to drive on back roads, specifically those without centre line markings. Your spotless toorak tractor can handle getting near the edge of the tarmac, you don’t need to stay in the centre so that you force everyone else off the road.

Pork Hunt 6:40 pm
19 Jan 14
#7

Regarding #1, C&GN, the floor is all yours.

switch 6:48 pm
19 Jan 14
#8

A lot of NSW drivers are d***heads, too. For proof, just drive to Sydney and watch. And let’s not get started on Victorians…

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:52 pm
19 Jan 14
#9

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:54 pm
19 Jan 14
#10

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

magiccar9 7:58 pm
19 Jan 14
#11

I think the points from the OP don’t even scratch the surface on how bad we are. The million dollar question is… Who’s to blame for this?

Queen_of_the_Bun 8:29 pm
19 Jan 14
#12

You don’t need to go to the Bay to see crap drivers. The other day I was turning right from Brisbane Av onto Wentworth Av at Barton, it’s two lanes with an unbroken white line so turning cars can merge safely. Just as I was about to merge, a white Commodore changed lanes into the right lane, forcing me and the three cars behind me to slam on the brakes to avoid her. She then travelled along in the right-hand lane until the big roundabout at Fyshwick, where she changed lanes again to the left.

She had NSW plates. Go figure.

ScienceRules 8:52 pm
19 Jan 14
#13

Well I hope you feel better after your rant. Assuming you’re at all interested in actual statistics rather than your rage fuelled anecdotes, DIRD’s numbers show road deaths in 2013 for the ACT at 1.83 per 100,000 people and in NSW at 4.58.

They made no comment on trailer reversing onto boat ramps.

The point is you see people behaving badly on the road all the time and you’re just filtering out non-ACT plates in this case. It’s called “confirmation bias”. At this time of the year the coast is crammed with ACT drivers so naturally there will be more crap driving as well as (ignored) good manners and safe driving by Canberrans.

http://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road_deaths_australia_monthly_bulletins.aspx

JC 8:54 pm
19 Jan 14
#14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

If the speed limit of the road is over 80 and you are not overtaking then it is against the road rules.

Tooks 9:06 pm
19 Jan 14
#15

I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. Nowhere in the South Coast or wider NSW has anyone ever been guilty of any of the atrocities as mentioned. It’s only Canberrans who are inconsiderate knobs.

Ok (/sarcasm), yep, I’ve seen these behaviours (except for the boating stuff, but I’ll take your word for that) while travelling to and from the coast. I’ve also seen NSW plated drivers talking on mobiles, sitting in the right lane when not overtaking, and any number of crap driving behaviours while travelling to the coast.

Canberrans believe Canberrans are the worst drivers in the country, but that’s probably because they’ve never lived in QLD…

Pork Hunt 9:10 pm
19 Jan 14
#16

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

The speed limit is not the effing issue, just keep left, is it that hard?

wildturkeycanoe 9:11 pm
19 Jan 14
#17

Queenslander sticking in the right lane, DELIBERATELY, in a 60 zone, doing 50km/h next to the car in the left lane also doing 50km/h. Continued to maintain the speed of the car in left lane when they sped up or slowed down. Flashing lights and sounding horn to move them along only resulted in being flicked “the bird”.
In total contrast, I noticed on Belconnen Way a Victorian driver who courteously merged left in a 80 zone to allow faster vehicles to go past. Miracles do happen.

Proboscus 9:16 pm
19 Jan 14
#18

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

The Indigenous fishos and lobster fishermen. I’m not sure about the oyster farmers but the other two use large tinnies from the local boat ramps and beaches.

I was speaking with a lobster fisherman at the Mossy Point boat ramp a couple of years ago and he told me he had two pet peeves at Xmas time – his lobsters being poached and boat owners who couldn’t reverse a car with a trailer on it.

bigred 9:38 pm
19 Jan 14
#19

Why anyone would go to the coast in January is beyond comprehension. Too many ACT cars and drivers down there I am told.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:50 pm
19 Jan 14
#20

Pork Hunt said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

The speed limit is not the effing issue, just keep left, is it that hard?

But why? Are you planning on driving dangerously on the way to the coast? Why so much rage for peeps using the right hand lane if the are doing the speed limit?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:53 pm
19 Jan 14
#21

Proboscus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

The Indigenous fishos and lobster fishermen. I’m not sure about the oyster farmers but the other two use large tinnies from the local boat ramps and beaches.

I was speaking with a lobster fisherman at the Mossy Point boat ramp a couple of years ago and he told me he had two pet peeves at Xmas time – his lobsters being poached and boat owners who couldn’t reverse a car with a trailer on it.

His lobsters?

LegalNut 10:12 pm
19 Jan 14
#22

Um, the first one only applies if the posted speed limit is over 80 kph or there is a sign directing people to do so. In Canberra this means that, on the vast majority of roads, it is perfectly legal to be in the right hand lane and not be overtaking.

Mordd 11:26 pm
19 Jan 14
#23

wildturkeycanoe said :

Queenslander sticking in the right lane, DELIBERATELY, in a 60 zone, doing 50km/h next to the car in the left lane also doing 50km/h. Continued to maintain the speed of the car in left lane when they sped up or slowed down. Flashing lights and sounding horn to move them along only resulted in being flicked “the bird”.
In total contrast, I noticed on Belconnen Way a Victorian driver who courteously merged left in a 80 zone to allow faster vehicles to go past. Miracles do happen.

FYI sounding your horn at someone because you think they are going too slow is illegal itself, it is to warn of dangers or hazards, not because you are annoyed at a car doing 50 in a 60 zone. Just pointing out if you had been fined for honking at that car, the police would totally be in the right fyi.

Antagonist 12:38 am
20 Jan 14
#24

No mention of merging? I call Troll.

JC said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

If the speed limit of the road is over 80 and you are not overtaking then it is against the road rules.

At first I was amazed that I would agree with JC on something, but the opportunity to split hairs has presented itself. The above applies to 80 zones also (rather than over 80). Once upon a time there were 2 demerit points attached to this one as well.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

Some charter operators and fishing guides, prawners, abalone divers to name a few.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

I was speaking with a lobster fisherman at the Mossy Point boat ramp a couple of years ago and he told me he had two pet peeves at Xmas time – his lobsters being poached and boat owners who couldn’t reverse a car with a trailer on it.

His lobsters?

Yes. Once they enter the cray pot, they are ‘his’ lobsters. Taking lobsters from a cray pot belonging to a licenced professional is theft/poaching.

rommeldog56 6:41 am
20 Jan 14
#25

It’s all about attitude, and consideration of fellow motorists – both of which, IMHO, appear worse in Canberra because of the great road system (as opposed to the resurfacing debate).

Just check out how many cars are parked in Disabled parking bays in Canberra – many of which do not have a voucher displayed. This is even more common when its hot or the shops are busy. People who park in Disabled parking spaces with out an entitlement are beneath contempt – they are just lazy, ignorant and selfish sons of bitches with a very bad social responsibility attitude.

With that sort of attitude, is it no wonder there is such inconsiderate driving on our roads too. At the end of the day, unfortunately, I don’t think many people give a stuff these days.

I wish the Police and City Rangers would book those illegal parkers more, it doesn’t seem to be heavily or consistently policed these days.

wildturkeycanoe 7:07 am
20 Jan 14
#26

Mordd said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

Queenslander sticking in the right lane, DELIBERATELY, in a 60 zone, doing 50km/h next to the car in the left lane also doing 50km/h. Continued to maintain the speed of the car in left lane when they sped up or slowed down. Flashing lights and sounding horn to move them along only resulted in being flicked “the bird”.
In total contrast, I noticed on Belconnen Way a Victorian driver who courteously merged left in a 80 zone to allow faster vehicles to go past. Miracles do happen.

FYI sounding your horn at someone because you think they are going too slow is illegal itself, it is to warn of dangers or hazards, not because you are annoyed at a car doing 50 in a 60 zone. Just pointing out if you had been fined for honking at that car, the police would totally be in the right fyi.

Yes, like there are police on our roads…..
I know the horn rule, the flashing headlight rule and I know the tailgating rule. When people consistently [and I mean absolutely every time you go on the road] make your journey unpleasant because of their self-righteous attitude, knowing it’s not illegal but does annoy everyone behind them], my patience wears to the point that these people need to be told to pull their head in.
Yet, some knob with a seriously dumb attitude can do as they please whilst being a total jerk about it and everyone else behind them has to just put up with it?
Hypothetically – What if you had a three lane road and the guy in front of you was doing 20km/h below the limit and continually changed lanes in front of you to block your way to pass him? There isn’t anything illegal about that but you can’t do anything to get past them either. There is illegal behavior and then there is courtesy. If they made rudeness an offense [and police were actually enforcing road rules] then I’m sure our roads would be a nicer place to drive.

KB1971 7:36 am
20 Jan 14
#27

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Proboscus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Ummmm, can you please tell me who makes a crust off fishing with boats you put in the water off a boat ramp?

The Indigenous fishos and lobster fishermen. I’m not sure about the oyster farmers but the other two use large tinnies from the local boat ramps and beaches.

I was speaking with a lobster fisherman at the Mossy Point boat ramp a couple of years ago and he told me he had two pet peeves at Xmas time – his lobsters being poached and boat owners who couldn’t reverse a car with a trailer on it.

His lobsters?

If they are in his pots they are his lobsters ;)

KB1971 7:47 am
20 Jan 14
#28

You don’t get out too often do you Probuscus?

Drive the Monaro Highway in the snow season and see who the drongos are, they are from all over but mainly NSW.

Down on the Sapphire Coast? Victorians at this time of year (I grew up with it, they do all the same things you described).

Fraser Island? just about everybody from all over the country.

Canberra drivers are not unique.

I get to travel a bit for work and the two pieces of roads that I have had issues with are the Melbourne freeways and the Brisbane freeways, the trucks seem to think its OK to sit a foot and a half off your rear bumper.

wildturkeycanoe 7:51 am
20 Jan 14
#29

Mordd said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

Queenslander sticking in the right lane, DELIBERATELY, in a 60 zone, doing 50km/h next to the car in the left lane also doing 50km/h. Continued to maintain the speed of the car in left lane when they sped up or slowed down. Flashing lights and sounding horn to move them along only resulted in being flicked “the bird”.
In total contrast, I noticed on Belconnen Way a Victorian driver who courteously merged left in a 80 zone to allow faster vehicles to go past. Miracles do happen.

FYI sounding your horn at someone because you think they are going too slow is illegal itself, it is to warn of dangers or hazards, not because you are annoyed at a car doing 50 in a 60 zone. Just pointing out if you had been fined for honking at that car, the police would totally be in the right fyi.

Sorry for the double post but I thought I’d justify my response with this also
Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Australian Road Rules
Incorporation 2013 (No 1)
Rule 224 Using horns and similar warning devices
A driver must not use, or allow to be used, a horn, or similar warning device, fitted to or in
the driver’s vehicle unless:
(a) it is necessary to use the horn, or warning device, to warn other road users or animals of the approach or position of the vehicle; or
(b) the horn, or warning device,
is being used as part of an anti-theft device, or an alcohol interlock device, fitted to the vehicle

So, justifiably and legally I can use my horn to warn the car in the right hand lane that I am approaching from behind, to alert them to my vehicle’s position. If they do not seem to respond to the horn, then I may feel the need to repeat this until I am acknowledged by some sort of indication that they have seen or heard me approaching.

Queen_of_the_Bun 8:05 am
20 Jan 14
#30

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Pork Hunt said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Porky worky, if you are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane then there is no issue.

The speed limit is not the effing issue, just keep left, is it that hard?

But why? Are you planning on driving dangerously on the way to the coast? Why so much rage for peeps using the right hand lane if the are doing the speed limit?

Why drive in the right hand lane if you don’t need to overtake anyone? So you can be a self-appointed Safety Joe who stops everyone else from going 5 kms over the legal limit?

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