30 May 2008

Where the hell do I get decent Coffee to go in Civic?

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I work in the city and I’ll be stuffed if I can find a place that will sell me a coffee which hasn’t had the grind burned (the republic), the milk cooked to shit (take your pick) of half filled when they can’t be arsed (the republic again).

If had mostly good coffee at Kaldi (at least since the lanky fella started working there), the two jokers at Bean in the City have always been been consistent (and well priced), but how hard is it to make a good brew?

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canberracafe.com8:42 am 06 Jun 08

If you have too much caffeine, it wears down the adrenal system and body overall. Like alcohol – too much wears the body down. A bit every now and then for enjoyment seems to actually be healthy.

I use ginseng from time to time as well – I purchased a half kilo of the stuff off ebay and boy it works – and from what I can tell it builds up the adrenal system – or so the ‘alternative’ web sites tell me.

I’m still learning about all this stuff.

Any comments on ginseng / caffeine to the Canberra Cafe forum 🙂

green_frogs_go_pop12:26 am 06 Jun 08

canberracafe.com said :

I rarely have more than one a day, rarely more than 3 a week.

..tell me, how the hell do you stay awake then? good god.

canberracafe.com10:20 pm 04 Jun 08

I am getting my own machine. Sometimes it is nice to sit down for a coffee in a nice cafe though. I rarely have more than one a day, rarely more than 3 a week. That’s why I get so annoyed when that coffee I look forward to is disappointing.

Woody Mann-Caruso10:17 pm 04 Jun 08

Fairtrade organic beans from Wagonga at the markets, plunger, problem solved – coffee the way I like it for two weeks for $8.50.

green_frogs_go_pop8:01 pm 04 Jun 08

now now, international roast is cheap and easy..and can be purchased in many places canberra wide, not just civic! 😉

haha. seriously, robinsons makes pretty grouse coffee’s.

save up all the money you would spend on the 2-3 store bought coffees every day…

Buy a coffee machine for your office… – problem solved.

My boss spends up to $20 a day on latte’s…. in 3 weeks they could buy a decent coffee machine. Make there own…. least that would cut back on the hour wasted going to the coffee shop and getting someone else to make it.

canberracafe.com4:34 pm 04 Jun 08

yeah tonic has been pretty good to me so far (twice). Marimo – see the new website (my username) if you want to write up a review on Tonic in the existing Tonic thread there and vote in the poll.

i tried a latte at tonic today, wow it was really nice!

Remi’s in moore street seems to be one of the best, but I try to spend time there as it is easier to sit down than run off with my coffee.

Most cafes could produce good coffee if they wanted to, but don’t. Being busy is absolutely no excuse – we can spend $200 – $300 / year on a daily coffee, we don’t want flavoured water. It’s especially those in the ‘busy’ periods who desire a good cup as it may be their only one for the day.

I have started a *very* basic website – http://www.canberracafe.com/forum – it’s a bare bones installation at the moment with only a very basic forum running. I have not yet actually created a website or customised the forum.

However, please feel free to jump on board and start posting reviews and acting as my testers 🙂

I will post a new separate thread about this as well.

I think the majority of cafes in canberra actually can produce good coffee, its just many of them can’t do it consistently especially when they are busy…

I find bean in the city to be the most consistent and to this day have not had a bad coffee from there…

“a proper sized cup…”?? how much space do you need for a coffee? oh, you want diluted coffee, beg pardon… thought we were about ‘good’…

Grumpyoldman3:11 pm 31 May 08

I recommend the Deli, bottom level, Canberra Centre Markets, outside Supabarn. A proper sized cup too, many coffee shops are using small scale cups, often with thick tapering walls to reduce the amount served by 20 to 35% but which are designed optically to look normal size.. They only sell me one of those before they are struck off my list of acceptable coffee makers

It’s all about the blend 43, white and two.

I generally find Mooreish (opposite Sugacube) is generally better than Sugacube in that part of the city these days. I don’t generally go too far out of my way wherever I am in the city anyway, its more neeeed coffeeeee.

Each to their own in the most case but when you taste terrible coffee you know it straight away.

if you like terrible coffee

Starbucks and Gloria’s are the bestest.

I agree with Pug. Sugacube are good quality and consistent.

Pod Coffee in Braddon (in the entrance between Civic Video & The Ride Shop) is really good.

They only do take-away and they do it well (much better than Republic & Bean). Good for those folks on the Braddon side of civic.

Pose In The City is ok I guess

‘consistent’ is no praise – many cafes in canberra deliver consistently awful coffee.

I find Guru to be very consistent.

Two votes for As You Like It (Street Theatre, Childers St).

Sugacube cnr Rudd and Moore St is excellent, always hot, never burnt.

Oven Door at the Centrepoint building’s really good, their coffees are perfection! They’ll be moving next week to where Sammy’s old place was.

Not too sure about Bean though – although I have to admit I haven’t been there in over a year, they used to burn the crap out of their coffees.

i thought this thread idea had been done to death, but here it is, alive and kickin’…

don’t believe a word anyone else has written above, head straight to loui’s in the interchange. only drinkable coffee in town outside my place; and you can’t come there (and i’m not in civic, so autside your ambit here anyway! 😉 )

Give me a month or two (got exams on) and I’ll rig something up.. I knew I was not the only one.

Kaldi & Tonic for me (partly due to proximity). But Bean in the City is worth the walk sometimes.

I would have to say Kaldi coffee. I had one about 2 hours ago when I was in the city. I love them

tylersmayhem2:21 pm 30 May 08

Surely Starbuck’s would be the answer!? Isn’t that the reason how and why they go around shutting all the original and best small local coffee places all over the world by opening up 2 or 3 franchises to close them down, then scale back to one franchise after forcing the small coffee joints to close. Their coffee and must be something special. Hang on, or is that maybe Hoyts I’m thinking of, closing down all the best and original cinemas and allowing consumers a carbon copy of every multiplex cinema?!

Now I’m confused?! Gotta love these huge multi national corporations, just on principal!

Private Message? There’s no facility for that on Riotact, is there?
Good idea though, the coffee site. There’s no excuse for bad coffee. I’m still drooling at the memory of a fantastic one I had at the Kingston Markets a year ago, from a set up on a trestle table! Damn, it was good.

@Demo:
I swear if you could run it as an ongoing site feature here I’d read it, several thousand readers a week would probably read it, and Jazz and t’others could proabbly come to some kind of agreement with you, as it would helkp both their brand and yours.

I have found most coffee in the city to be ok. Essen is pretty good (service is sometimes a bit disorganised), noticed a new one today call Tonic? One of those Gen Y coffee makers works there, he used to be at KG in Kingston and was very good then so will give that a try soon. Just returned from a few years in Townsville, you think the coffee is bad here, HELLO!

barking toad12:47 pm 30 May 08

Cant’t wait demo!

I really want to start a website to review coffee in Canberra – please private message me if you are interested – I will be starting this up as a winter project with a basic bulletin board and voting system for now. Quite honestly after moving from Adelaide I am appalled with the quality of coffee in Canberra. It’s a combination of American accented Generation Y’s (disinterest in their work), a strong economy and guaranteed foot traffic by unimaginative lazy public servants who will venture no further than the nearest cafe, usually in or next door to their building. So cafes can pump out the most foul tasting watered down mud and people still line up for it (and moan about it every day like Groundhog Day). With mathematical precision I can map out the quality of coffee based on the normal laws of economic competition. I.e out at Fairbairn, there is an isolated cafe that treats its customers like cattle and makes *really* bad coffee, but there is where else to go without driving some distance.

It almost seems like a case of who-has-the-most-capital to secure the best location makes the most profit, rather than based on quality of coffee in Canberra. It’s a big problem and I hear people complain about coffee in Canberra often, especially those from inter-state.

Yet some good cafes as mentioned may not have the capital or revenue to support a prime location and are often over looked by unimaginative public servants.

So if we start a web site and bulletin board to review cafes in Canberra, then we can start supporting those cafes that produce *good* coffee and provide *good* customer service.

But for what it’s worth I have found Civic is the only place to get good coffee as there is more choice. Town centres often have guaranteed-foot-traffic problems so the coffee quality is basically flavoured water for $3 a pop.

Contact me if you are interested, lets support the cafes that do a good job and help keep them in business.

Holden Caulfield12:01 pm 30 May 08

I’m not a coffee drinker, but apparently Cafe Essen is quite good for coffees.

Depends where you work and how far you’re prepared to walk, I suppose. But there’s a very small ‘blink and you’d miss it’ cafe next to the Griffin Centre on Genge (?) Street — in fact, it might even be called ‘The Griffin Cafe’ — and I can recommend it. More of a ‘grab and go’ than somewhere to settle in for a long read or chat, but it’s always been consistently good coffee for mine. Do the green thing and take your own mug too.

You just can’t go passed Bean. No one else can do it consistently.

Republic Cafe on Allara St can be good – but more often than not nowadays they burn it. Glasshouse Cafe is improving, but still generally bad.

Andrew’s Cafe in near the dry cleaner’s opposite Medibank is pretty good considering it looks like it won’t be… and there’s also that cafe in Bailey’s Corner – good raisin toast deal and the coffee’s not bad.

But as I said – you can’t go passed Bean. They rule.

“as you like it” cafe, street theatre just off of ANU
psychadeli on barry drive

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