24 May 2011

Wildlife corridor or kangaroo killing field

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Wildlife lovers be aware. Another round of kangaroo slaughter is upon us. This morning I came across a freshly dug, large and deep, pit, just to the south of the proposed cemetery site south of Long Gully Road.

The pit is within, or next to, the main east-west wildlife corridor in southern Canberra.

It is bad enough that the ACT government cannot come up with a more humane way of regulating our kangaroo population than by giving them the bullet.

To carry out the slaughter in, or directly near, a wildlife corridor makes a mockery of wildlife protection.

Or is that the government is priming the proposed cemetery site?

For me, it would take the gloss of a natural burial to know that you are coming to rest next to slaughtered kangaroos.

How do I upload a Google jpeg of the pit site?

[Ed – email to images@the-riotact.com ]

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Momma said :

Canberra Road Rant!

Ummmmm…. Is this in the wrong thread, or is it roo related? And where is Sylvia Curley Bridge?

fgzk said :

blackspider said :

Solidarity said :

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

+1 – and an overabundance of kangaroos results in the death of other native plants and wildlife as they graze the land to bare soil. There is more to “loving wildlife” than the lives of individuals.

If any of you actually got out from behind your computers, you might notice the lack of Kangaroos in our landscape at this time of year. If your concerned about over grazing then I suggest you look at the introduced species. I think expressing love by killing is sick.

Yep. I’m looking at the introduced species, and they’d better watch out. There are rabbits, foxes and pigs on a mates property down near Cooma. The rabbits will become rabbit stew, and the foxes and pigs will just stop damaging the ecosystem.

Keijidosha said :

I am outraged at the idea the Government will be burying Kangaroos in this giant pit.

There is a perfectly good landfill just down the road.

I know, we can smell it each morning and can’t wait for the added crematorium fumes….

Canberra Road Rant!
I shake my head at the absurdity of the Sylvia Curley Bridge renovations each time I cross it. I know somewhere there must be an evil genius with a reason for the multi-level roadway and the single ongoing left hand lane. Surely he’s the creator of the GDE; a great idea in 1991 when I last gave birth….and I’m still waiting for it to be finished.
His latest experiment must surely be Benjamin Way, in Belconnen. I don’t travel to the Dark Side often but was gobsmacked to find my left hand lane just disappear with nothing but a line of parked cars in front of me in neatly outlined parking lanes.
The road has been reduced to the width of one and a half cars to allow for the parking, with no warning and nowhere to go, this is a disaster waiting to happen! Come on guys get it together and get the roads right!

54-11 said :

Chop71 said :

Skippy Burgers

Exactly, chop. What a wate of good meat. There should be annual culls, backed up by a refrigerated truck.

I seem to recall this wasn’t an option with the Great Belco Roo Cull due to the injecting of the roos with drugs as part of the killing process. I wonder what the excuse is this time?

Chop71 said :

Skippy Burgers

Exactly, chop. What a wate of good meat. There should be annual culls, backed up by a refrigerated truck.

Skippy Burgers

I do have to wonder about the pit part. As someone said, there is a perfectly good landfill up the road, surely it would be cheaper (in dollars, but also in resource use) to load them all in a truck and drive to the tip, then to bring a backhoe in, dig a hole, then come back later and fill it in.

For that matter, what about dog food factories, fertiliser companies, dropping them in the ocean to feed sharks….

Or hell, leave the carcasses on the ground to return the nutrients to the ecosystem whence they came?

Can’t they just use the remains for pet food? Or is that a massive no-no?

fgzk said :

blackspider said :

Solidarity said :

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

+1 – and an overabundance of kangaroos results in the death of other native plants and wildlife as they graze the land to bare soil. There is more to “loving wildlife” than the lives of individuals.

If any of you actually got out from behind your computers, you might notice the lack of Kangaroos in our landscape at this time of year. If your concerned about over grazing then I suggest you look at the introduced species. I think expressing love by killing is sick.

Killing something just to bury it, is sick. But people have been hunting animals for food and other uses for as long as we exist. I remember reading somewhere (pretty sure it was in a Tim Flannery book) that for the early settlers kangaroos were a fairly rare sight, because the Aboriginals kept their numbers down. I don’t think the Aboriginals hated kangaroos…

Just wanting to keep all the cuddly wildlife alive doesn’t make you more humane or morally better than others who don’t agree with that opinion. There was some discussion about the kangaroos at a that Belco location threatening the habitat of some lizard (and a certain insect too, I vaguely recall) but the wildlife warriors didn’t seem to care about those. Survival of the cuddliest…

blackspider said :

Solidarity said :

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

+1 – and an overabundance of kangaroos results in the death of other native plants and wildlife as they graze the land to bare soil. There is more to “loving wildlife” than the lives of individuals.

If any of you actually got out from behind your computers, you might notice the lack of Kangaroos in our landscape at this time of year. If your concerned about over grazing then I suggest you look at the introduced species. I think expressing love by killing is sick.

As one of the so called animal lovers I do agree that a marksman’s bullet is the best method to kill, when necessary. I do not know much about the culling procedures in the ACT but I hope they are not taking the senior members of the kangaroo hierarchy but are mainly aiming for the juveniles. It is my understanding that this is better for the population in general as the juveniles that remain still have the hierarchy in place and do not become ‘rogue’ roos but are kept in line buy the older ones.

There is also something to be said about doing this within the general human population (obviously typed with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek).

51modelBloke10:10 pm 24 May 11

amarooresident3 said :

How do you know it’s for kangaroos?

Well, obviously there is a big neon lit billboard announcing the purpose.

matt31221 said :

I am a hunter who is against straight culling of animals. I believe they should use the meat as food for humans or in pet food, and turn the hides into leather. Kangaroo leather is such a beautiful product, it can used for so many things including awesome stock whips that Americans buy.

Such a waste of kangaroo.

And +1!

I too find that to kill an animal – whatever the original intention may be – and then to not use the resources it has to offer is rather criminal.

Dougal said :

Watson said :

*It is bad enough that the ACT government cannot come up with a more humane way of regulating our kangaroo population than by giving them the bullet. *

Yeah, like those shots they gave them during the cull that sparked worldwide protests. I cringed when I saw how distressed those kangaroos got whilst they were trying to humanely catch to humanely kill them.

Personally – and I’m no killing expert – I cannot think of a faster way to kill anything than with a bullet.

Yes, an accurately fired bullet is the most humane way to kill them – if you did just even the tiniest bit of research into the last cull, you would know that bullets weren’t an option given the proximity of houses, roads etc. The next most humane method was lethal injection.

The distress you experienced watching them culled pales in comparison to the distress they would have experienced while they slowly starved to death. There are worse things than death for an animal you know…

Err.. I didn’t say anything against the cull?! Just against using legal injections instead of bullets!

People who oppose shooting should consider what happens to kangaroos (and all wild animals in fact) that die of natural causes.

Their kangaroo kids don’t put them in the old kangaroos home where they are looked after by loving kangaroo nursing staff, visited by kangaroo relatives, eventually dying peacefully while surrounded by their devoted kangaroo family.

In general, they become too weak to feed themselves, fall to the ground and lie there gasping and slowly starving to death, while having their eyes pecked out by birds, being eaten alive by ants etc etc. It’s a pretty horrible way to go, but that’s mother nature for you.

If the animals need to be culled then shooting them is the best way to do it. As to whether the culling is necessary, well, I don’t have any opinion on that.

I am a hunter who is against straight culling of animals. I believe they should use the meat as food for humans or in pet food, and turn the hides into leather. Kangaroo leather is such a beautiful product, it can used for so many things including awesome stock whips that Americans buy.

Such a waste of kangaroo.

I think the best way to control the roo population would be to allocate them to crappicker and the kind and generous animal lib folks. Deliver the excess roos to them, having first gently sedated them for the journey so as not to traumatise them (I hear ether’s readily available). They can be loved and cherished house pets until they pass away peacefully at a ripe old age. Everybody wins.

ScienceRules6:51 pm 24 May 11

the only thing that offends me about this cull is that they are burying them. Bloody hell, does no one on the Council have a barbie? Steaks for the masses I say…

As far as I can tell our nature reserves are flush with grass. Since when were our Kangaroos starving to death anymore? I’ve been in that nature reserve along long gully road and the kangaroos are anything but looking near death, they are quite well nourished and seem very happy.

I agree with the comments above. I think what’s being done is humane, and probably the best solution. I would also be ok with the meat being sold for consumption if it were edible.

Solidarity said :

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

+1. As others have noted, an accurately fired bullet is the most humane way to control them. Less stressful than any other method I can think of.

Solidarity said :

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

+1 – and an overabundance of kangaroos results in the death of other native plants and wildlife as they graze the land to bare soil. There is more to “loving wildlife” than the lives of individuals.

Disinformation3:57 pm 24 May 11

Oddly enough, the nearmap.com recent maps of this area, show no signs of an “old pit”.
Wildlife corridors are where wildlife hang out. It’s a bit pointless trying to cull kangaroos in the ACT by shooting them where they are not.
The kangaroos in this location are reasonably self culling anyway, judging by the number of carcasses I see along the Monaro highway.
Have you any idea of how many more kangaroos are alive in Australia since human settlement has pushed their water supplies out into otherwise arid land?
How do you propose to “come up with a more humane way of regulating the kangaroo population”? Obviously, it’s a simple thing to ask for, but too difficult for you to answer. Easy to expect the magical government solution though.
Gotta love complainers. So full of solutions.

“To carry out the slaughter in, or directly near, a wildlife corridor makes a mockery of wildlife protection.”

Yes, because kangaroos are obviously the only type of wildlife in the corridor.

Watson said :

*It is bad enough that the ACT government cannot come up with a more humane way of regulating our kangaroo population than by giving them the bullet. *

Yeah, like those shots they gave them during the cull that sparked worldwide protests. I cringed when I saw how distressed those kangaroos got whilst they were trying to humanely catch to humanely kill them.

Personally – and I’m no killing expert – I cannot think of a faster way to kill anything than with a bullet.

Yes, an accurately fired bullet is the most humane way to kill them – if you did just even the tiniest bit of research into the last cull, you would know that bullets weren’t an option given the proximity of houses, roads etc. The next most humane method was lethal injection.

The distress you experienced watching them culled pales in comparison to the distress they would have experienced while they slowly starved to death. There are worse things than death for an animal you know…

Kangaroo populations need to be maintained, shooting them is quick, cost-effective and humane, and burying them in a pit is cost-effective and environmentally friendly. All sounds good to me.
Or would you rather the government create a kangaroo graveyard (Skippy Downs?) complete with headstones, memorials and wreaths?

amarooresident32:35 pm 24 May 11

How do you know it’s for kangaroos?

I’m a “wildlife lover” and fully support the cull and how it is carried out.

Do some research, crappicker.

Watson said :

Personally – and I’m no killing expert – I cannot think of a faster way to kill anything than with a bullet.

Nuke from orbit?

*It is bad enough that the ACT government cannot come up with a more humane way of regulating our kangaroo population than by giving them the bullet. *

Yeah, like those shots they gave them during the cull that sparked worldwide protests. I cringed when I saw how distressed those kangaroos got whilst they were trying to humanely catch to humanely kill them.

Personally – and I’m no killing expert – I cannot think of a faster way to kill anything than with a bullet.

I am outraged at the idea the Government will be burying Kangaroos in this giant pit.

There is a perfectly good landfill just down the road.

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