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William Hovell slowdown goes high speed

By 20 April 2012 12

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Yesterday we were talking about the speed limit reduction on William Hovell Drive.

This morning the Canberra Times has cottoned on to the issue.

Roads ACT has admitted it could have communicated better a permanent reduction in the speed limit on a section of William Hovell Drive but denied it was gun-shy after the Gungahlin Drive Extension speed limit controversy.

Territory and Municipal Services director-general Gary Byles has asked for a full internal report into a ”breakdown in communications” within the directorate which did not see the reduced speed limit – from 90km/h to 80km/h – properly flagged to the public before it was put in place on Wednesday.

After 6pm last night a media release was issued on the subject by Territory and Municipal Services:

The ACT Government wishes to advise that permanent speed reductions have been made on William Hovell Drive between Coppins Crossing Road and 500 metres east of Bindubi Street to address road safety concerns raised as part of the Nation Building Black Spot Program.

“There has been a total of 11 casualty crashes at the intersections of William Hovell Drive/Coppins Crossing Road and the intersection of William Hovell Drive/Bindubi Street in the last five years,” Director, Roads ACT, Tony Gill, said today.

“A report completed in August 2011, which assessed the safety of William Hovell Drive, recommended that the speed limit be reduced from 90 km/h to 80 km.

“William Hovell Drive was the only road in the ACT with traffic lights that had a speed limit of higher than 80 km/h.

This morning the Liberals’ Alistair Coe is weighing in:

“Not only does the decision to decrease the speed contradict the government-commissioned report, the implementation violates Australian Standard 1742.4 of speed limit signage,” Mr Coe said today.

“The government only released information about the decision after the Opposition and the media started asking questions about this sudden change.

“It should be standard practice to inform motorists in advance of speed limit changes, to avoid them feeling a sense of entrapment regarding being caught unknowingly speeding.

“This is yet another example of the ACT Labor Government failing to manage core local services and keeping the community in the dark on important changes,” Mr Coe concluded.


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William Hovell slowdown goes high speed
buzz819 9:40 am
20 Apr 12
#1

So is all of William Hovell now 80, or just from Coppins Crossing to Bindubi Street?

Rollersk8r 10:05 am
20 Apr 12
#2

Call me a hypocrite (speed limits, revenue raising etc) but I actually don’t oppose this change. I’ve been test driving new cars from Belconnen dealers and tend to make a few passes through this intersection as a standard route. Obviously on a test drive you, with the dealer in the car, you pay close attention to the road rules and speed limits, which is almost impossible to do on that stretch. I’ve been doing exactly 90 and every bastard is doing 110!

arb 10:07 am
20 Apr 12
#3

buzz819 said :

So is all of William Hovell now 80, or just from Coppins Crossing to Bindubi Street?

Just Coppins Crossing to Bindubi. You know… the nice straight section with dual lanes in both directions separated by a nice wide median strip…

Holden Caulfield 10:32 am
20 Apr 12
#4

Rollersk8r said :

…Obviously on a test drive you, with the dealer in the car, you pay close attention to the road rules and speed limits, which is almost impossible to do on that stretch. I’ve been doing exactly 90 and every bastard is doing 110!

Well you can take solace that the only logical conclusion to make is they must only do it once.

Speed kills, remember.

buzz819 10:35 am
20 Apr 12
#5

Rollersk8r said :

Call me a hypocrite (speed limits, revenue raising etc) but I actually don’t oppose this change. I’ve been test driving new cars from Belconnen dealers and tend to make a few passes through this intersection as a standard route. Obviously on a test drive you, with the dealer in the car, you pay close attention to the road rules and speed limits, which is almost impossible to do on that stretch. I’ve been doing exactly 90 and every bastard is doing 110!

So lowering the speed limit is the answer to the problem?

Gerry-Built 10:41 am
20 Apr 12
#6

Rectify the big problem (the Coppins Crossing Road intersection) in the right way…

Would be easy to block off the left lane and make it a turning lane. Of course; like so many other road works, it wasn’t done correctly the first time.

Seems like road planning here is done by throwing all the options in the hat and picking out a winner…

buzz819 11:04 am
20 Apr 12
#7

Gerry-Built said :

Rectify the big problem (the Coppins Crossing Road intersection) in the right way…

Would be easy to block off the left lane and make it a turning lane. Of course; like so many other road works, it wasn’t done correctly the first time.

Seems like road planning here is done by throwing all the options in the hat and picking out a winner…

Yes but Canberra is full of Wanker drivers, they would use the turning lane as an overtaking lane.

StrangeAttractor 11:57 am
20 Apr 12
#8

arb said :

buzz819 said :

So is all of William Hovell now 80, or just from Coppins Crossing to Bindubi Street?

Just Coppins Crossing to Bindubi. You know… the nice straight section with dual lanes in both directions separated by a nice wide median strip…

Yeah, this had me going wtf? last night. It’s 90 for the unlit, 2 lanes up, one lane down section around the hill, 80 for the lit, separated, dual lanes both way section, then 90 again for the glenloch interchange section.

Doesn’t make any sense to me. I would have though aligning the two intersections (coppins and coulter) so it was only one set of lights, a single X intersection, vs 2 T intersections, would have made more sense.

But then, I’m not a road design consultant.

theoutsider 12:16 pm
20 Apr 12
#9

Pretty soon Coppins Crossing Road won’t exist anyway – it will be replaced by John Gorton Drive.

p1 1:41 pm
20 Apr 12
#10

theoutsider said :

Pretty soon Coppins Crossing Road won’t exist anyway – it will be replaced by John Gorton Drive.

If by pretty soon you mean when they finally have it all done, which if the time it has taken to do the first km or so is anything to go by, will be several years at least…

yellowsnow 2:02 pm
20 Apr 12
#11

I don’t get it. 2.5 years ago Tony Gill stood in front of the Weston Creek Community Council and insisted the Coppins Crossing-William Hovell intersection was perfectly safe and there was no need for the kind of improvents members of the public suggested (like realigning Coppins Crossing rd to meet Coulter). Now he’s finally biting the bullet and admitting it’s a bad intersection, but instead of fixing it just reduces the speed limit!

Apparently it’ll be ten years before Molonglo roads link up with Belco network – so a lot more people will be using Coppins Crossing rd. Why they can’t improve the intersection before the situation becomes untenable, and even less safe, is beyond me

PrinceOfAles 3:23 pm
20 Apr 12
#12

Thats an average of 1 injury per intersection per year (roughly). And no fatalaties. Is that really what you would call a black spot considering the number of cars that go through there? I don`t really think lowering the speed limit will change much. They need to just realing coppins and coulter and make it a 4 way traffic light job. Honestly what would that cost? Maybe 5 or 6 million at a rough guess.

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