“Your Court Your Safety” a booklet to help deal with domestic violence

By 3 December, 2012 54

Joy Burch has launched a resource booklet to help those struggling with domestic violence survive the courts:

The booklet “Your Court Your Safety” provides guidance and information on support services to victims of domestic violence to empower and assist them.

“We know one in three Australian women will experience domestic violence in their life time.” Minister Burch said.

“The impact can be psychologically, socially, economically on women, children, families and the community as a whole in both the short and long term,

“This practical resource provides advice and support and will contribute to an increased sense of safety for women.

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54 Responses to “Your Court Your Safety” a booklet to help deal with domestic violence
#1
kea1:39 pm, 03 Dec 12

If we could just get one thing straight first….

Its not Domestic Violence ..its Assault with Grievous Bodily Harm..

#2
Pitchka1:58 pm, 03 Dec 12

So Domestic is ok?

#3
Diggety2:40 pm, 03 Dec 12

Just women?

#4
kea2:54 pm, 03 Dec 12

Diggety said :

Just women?

Do we have to right all wrongs against men before we can address the wrongs against women?

#5
poetix3:05 pm, 03 Dec 12

This may be a valuable resource, but I have to say that I think the title is awful. When I read ‘Your court’ I immediately thought of the expression ‘the ball’s in your court’ which is a way of saying ‘take responsibility for what’s happening to you’. Almost pull up your socks. Why not just ‘Your safety: a legal guide for victims of domestic violence’?

You don’t always need something that sounds like an ad.

#6
p13:45 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

Diggety said :

Just women?

Do we have to right all wrongs against men before we can address the wrongs against women?

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

#7
kea4:01 pm, 03 Dec 12

p1 said :

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

Right now the system is skewed in favour of the perpetrator due the nature of “domestic violence”.. this is a service for the victims.. of which the majority tend to be women.. I suppose when the stats are up at “1 in 3 men are experiencing domestic violence” the program will shift their focus accordingly..

#8
nyssa19764:07 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea is right, we need to look at this for what is actually is – ASSAULT. Not cover it up with BS names. If you assault another person you can be charged and jailed. If you commit DV, well you can be returned to you house in less than 24 hours with no dramas.

The sooner abuse on partners, spouses and children is taken more seriously the sooner these losers will be held accountable for their actions.

#9
460cixy4:13 pm, 03 Dec 12

p1 said :

kea said :

Diggety said :

Just women?

Do we have to right all wrongs against men before we can address the wrongs against women?

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

Men don’t suffer the same problems as the women have you not listened to the raving feminists? And no I don’t condone domestic violence against any one.

#10
p14:28 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

p1 said :

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

Right now the system is skewed in favour of the perpetrator due the nature of “domestic violence”.. this is a service for the victims.. of which the majority tend to be women.. I suppose when the stats are up at “1 in 3 men are experiencing domestic violence” the program will shift their focus accordingly..

Everything you say is perfectly correct. But nothing you say is a reason to word the media release in such a way that is exclude a group which is a minority amongst a marginalised group.

I totally agree with you that the “domestic violence” label only seems to make it okay to consider it differently to “real/bad/normal violence” that other people suffer.

#11
Diggety4:42 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

Diggety said :

Just women?

Do we have to right all wrongs against men before we can address the wrongs against women?

No. Nobody suggested that.

#12
kea5:01 pm, 03 Dec 12

“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway

#13
m00nee6:12 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

p1 said :

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

Right now the system is skewed in favour of the perpetrator due the nature of “domestic violence”.. this is a service for the victims.. of which the majority tend to be women.. I suppose when the stats are up at “1 in 3 men are experiencing domestic violence” the program will shift their focus accordingly..

Actually Ikea, spousal abuse is actually not a female only issue as some womens groups would have people believe. Studies have shown the level of domestic assaults against males range between 33% and 47%. In plain english, one-in-three to one-in-two.

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/overview/
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x2010000-eng.pdf

It’s about time that the government started looking at domestic assaults as a community issue, regardless of race, religion or gender.

#14
dpm6:20 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway

You seem a tad agressive to some simple comments/queries.
Perhaps if the blurb said: ‘New resource empowers *female* victims of domestic violence’, and ‘The booklet “Your Court Your Safety” provides guidance and information on support services to *female* victims of domestic violence to empower and assist them.’ etc etc…
No one is saying women aren’t way more likely to experience voilence, but it’s also true that it isn’t exclusively women who are on the receiving end.
I mean surely it wouldn’t have been too hard to make it more gender-neutral (except for maybe the stats) so people would have no reason to query/complain in the first place?
P.S She’s also the minister for ‘disability, children and young people’…..

#15
poetix8:02 pm, 03 Dec 12

m00nee said :

Actually Ikea,…
….

Her user name is not Ikea.

dpm said :

kea said :

“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway

You seem a tad agressive to some simple comments/queries.
…..

Textbook playing the woman, not the ball…Detracts from the rest of the comment.

Now back to puns and moths, if at all possible.

#16
LSWCHP8:42 pm, 03 Dec 12

m00nee said :

kea said :

p1 said :

Do we need to exclude men who might be suffering from domestic violence from a program campaign like this?

Right now the system is skewed in favour of the perpetrator due the nature of “domestic violence”.. this is a service for the victims.. of which the majority tend to be women.. I suppose when the stats are up at “1 in 3 men are experiencing domestic violence” the program will shift their focus accordingly..

Actually Ikea, spousal abuse is actually not a female only issue as some womens groups would have people believe. Studies have shown the level of domestic assaults against males range between 33% and 47%. In plain english, one-in-three to one-in-two.

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/overview/
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x2010000-eng.pdf

It’s about time that the government started looking at domestic assaults as a community issue, regardless of race, religion or gender.

You beat me to it.

I’m a man, and my now thankfully ex wife assaulted me quite violently on several occasion with fists, feet and implements including a glass on one occasion. I even have a scar to prove it.

I know from speaking to other men that I’m not alone. So while it’s true that spousal assault is usually directed at women, it definitely goes the other way as well, and it annoys the hell out of me to have my experience marginalised to the point of being erased.

#17
kea9:07 pm, 03 Dec 12

dpm said :

kea said :

“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway

You seem a tad agressive to some simple comments/queries.
Perhaps if the blurb said: ‘New resource empowers *female* victims of domestic violence’, and ‘The booklet “Your Court Your Safety” provides guidance and information on support services to *female* victims of domestic violence to empower and assist them.’ etc etc…
No one is saying women aren’t way more likely to experience voilence, but it’s also true that it isn’t exclusively women who are on the receiving end.
I mean surely it wouldn’t have been too hard to make it more gender-neutral (except for maybe the stats) so people would have no reason to query/complain in the first place?
P.S She’s also the minister for ‘disability, children and young people’…..

This makes as much sense as talking about services for the elderly then the thread getting hijacked by people concerned for the youth.. it doesn’t mean that the party that went unmentioned is less deserving… it’s just, that’s not what we’re talking about at the moment.

#18
chewy149:30 pm, 03 Dec 12

kea said :

If we could just get one thing straight first….

Its not Domestic Violence ..its Assault with Grievous Bodily Harm..

The new definitions also include verbal, psychological and financial abuse so its not necessarily physical assault.

#19
Masquara2:27 am, 04 Dec 12

m00nee said :

Actually Ikea, spousal abuse is actually not a female only issue as some womens groups would have people believe. Studies have shown the level of domestic assaults against males range between 33% and 47%. In plain english, one-in-three to one-in-two.

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/overview/
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x2010000-eng.pdf

It’s about time that the government started looking at domestic assaults as a community issue, regardless of race, religion or gender.

You’re quoting VERY selectively – those figures of yours assume that a “push” is the equivalent of a sexual assault at gunpoint?

#20
milkman6:42 am, 04 Dec 12

Why couldn’t we just focus on domestic violence however it occurs, including against men and children?

#21
milkman6:43 am, 04 Dec 12

Masquara said :

[You’re quoting VERY selectively – those figures of yours assume that a “push” is the equivalent of a sexual assault at gunpoint?

And which scenario do you think would be more common?

#22
m00nee7:01 am, 04 Dec 12

Masquara said :

m00nee said :

Actually Ikea, spousal abuse is actually not a female only issue as some womens groups would have people believe. Studies have shown the level of domestic assaults against males range between 33% and 47%. In plain english, one-in-three to one-in-two.

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/overview/
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x2010000-eng.pdf

It’s about time that the government started looking at domestic assaults as a community issue, regardless of race, religion or gender.

You’re quoting VERY selectively – those figures of yours assume that a “push” is the equivalent of a sexual assault at gunpoint?

A direct quote from Ms Burch’s source of information which:

“Domestic Violence occurs when a family member uses violent and/or abusive behaviour to control another family member or members.

Domestic Violence can include physical, verbal, emotional, economic or sexual abuse. For example: hitting, kicking, punching, choking, damaging property, yelling, insults, threats, bullying, withholding and controlling finances, unwanted sexual acts, forced sex.”

http://www.dvcs.org.au/domesticviolence.html

Domestic violence is violence towards another person and should not be tolerated, regardless,

#23
steveu7:45 am, 04 Dec 12

err…ladies? Domestic violence doesnt just impact women. guys are not always the perpetrators. And if you think the ‘statistics’ are true, think again. The majority of blokes are reluctant to report it, as generally authorities take the side of the woman (no matter what is said) and the victim becomes the accused.

So perhaps leave your misandry at the door please.

#24
dpm8:02 am, 04 Dec 12

poetix said :

Textbook playing the woman, not the ball…Detracts from the rest of the comment.

Now back to puns and moths, if at all possible.

Sorry, agressive was the wrong choice of words – I wasn’t trying to be a smartarse! I was just suggesting that all of kea’s comments and replies up till that point (starting at #1) had been a tad angry/defensive, IMO. Let’s all calm down here. No one is endorsing violence.

#25
dpm8:05 am, 04 Dec 12

kea said :

This makes as much sense as talking about services for the elderly then the thread getting hijacked by people concerned for the youth.. it doesn’t mean that the party that went unmentioned is less deserving… it’s just, that’s not what we’re talking about at the moment.

Hahahaha!
What I was getting at is your comment ‘“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway’ wasn’t really a ‘dead giveaway’.
1) JB title ‘“Your Court Your Safety” a booklet to help deal with domestic violence’ says nothing about women only,
2) The title of the booklet ‘Your Court Your Safety’ says nothing about women only etc etc.
Then, when someone queried it you said ‘“Minister for Women” was a dead giveaway’. Well, if we were to read the fine print that she is minister for women (along with a few other portfolios) and were to automatically know when we first read it that it was about domestic violence for against women only, that’s a bit harsh! Hahahaha!
That’s why I pointed out she is also the minister for other ‘groups’ in the population – that may or may not also be subject to domestic violence. Couldn’t we then have also assumed it was something for them? That makes sense to me! That’s all….

#26
Diggety9:37 am, 04 Dec 12

milkman said :

Why couldn’t we just focus on domestic violence however it occurs, including against men and children?

+1

#27
wrigbe10:53 am, 04 Dec 12

I think perhaps the point someone was trying to make earlier was a good one. Whenever the conversation on here mentions Domestic Violence against women lots of people jump up and down and say ‘what about violence against men’. This is like saying complaining about a conversation about violence against older people not also being about younger people. It might be important, but it is not what the conversation is about!
Having said that I can hear that some of you feel that mentioning domestic violence as only a women’s problem demeans your experience and pain. And that is true. The problem is that women who experience domestic violence and see a thread like this which read primarily as a complaint against ‘feminists’ as if they are somehow the cause of the violence – demeans their pain and suffering.
What we need to do is find a way to hold the perpetrators of violence responsible without men blaming all women (including feminists) and women blaming all men.
Despite all of us wishing it was not so, the reality is that women are more likely to be seriously injured or killed by a spouse or partner, than a man. This is why leaflets like this come out. We all need to take it seriously.

LSWCHP I am sorry for the crap you been dealt in life.

#28
Antagonist11:26 am, 04 Dec 12

kea said :

If we could just get one thing straight first….

Its not Domestic Violence ..its Assault with Grievous Bodily Harm..

Take it somewhere else, kea. If I were to insult my wife or withhold finances from her, is it still assault with grievous bodily harm? No – but I would still be a d!ckhead for doing it. For the record, my wife controls the household finances, swears like a trooper, and punches like a bloke. She is freakin awesome.

Diggety said :

milkman said :

Why couldn’t we just focus on domestic violence however it occurs, including against men and children?

+1

+ another. One in three men are also likely to be subjected to domestic violence at some point in their lives too. As are one in three children. This publication does f*ck all to bridge the gender gap or address the social issues surrounding domestic violence. Imagine the outrage if this publication were aimed at any men who are subjected to domestic violence? It absolutely should have been written as gender neutral – just like domestic violence itself.

#29
PeachesNcream6:22 pm, 04 Dec 12

I’ve been noticing a bunch of whining men seeking out forums and articles addressing DV to publicise their perceptions of male oppression but what undermines those actions is that in general, men, having been caught with their hand in the cookie jar holding a fist full of the finest choc-chip now cry “but look at her…she has crumbs under her fingernails!” Pathetic. Nor does posting imaginary statistics over and over help your cause or change the fact that in general, men are by nature aggressive and men are responsible for the vast majority of violence in society, hence have a much larger prison population. Women, in general, are not physically aggressive thus suffer the most as targets of men’s hateful violence. And those of you men who come to forums like this to weep about inequality come across as demanding that your emotional hurts be recognised and addressed because they are more important than anyone elses. Bad luck. The government allocates funding to the area of greatest proven need so that they get more bang for their buck. Services addressing DV prevention for women will get priority until that problem is solved. So help yourselves by lecturing violent men about stopping their campaigns of abuse against everybody else then there will be resources available to deal with the much smaller problem of women who routinely beat/injure/maim/kill men.

#30
m00nee6:58 pm, 04 Dec 12

PeachesNcream said :

TL/DR

P&C, for the sake of all humanity, please take you medication.

I actually though we were having a quite rational discussion regarding this issue, please try and keep it that way.

I fully support what Ms Burch is trying to achieve, but I also believe that the issue of domestic violence will never be resolved until the government started looking at domestic assaults as a community issue, regardless of race, religion or gender.

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