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Zeddites triumph over Pogos, for now

By 23 February 2013 58

The ABC has the story on the expected pre-selection triumph of Zed Seselja in knocking over Senator Gary Humphries:

The ACT Liberal Party has dumped long-serving Senator Gary Humphries after a bitter preselection battle.

Former ACT Liberal leader Zed Seselja won today’s preselection vote 114 to 84 votes.

CityNews reports that Pogo* stalwart Gary Kent is planning to try and overturn the Zeddite victory:

Former party president Gary Kent, a Humphries supporter, has gathered the requisite number of party members’ signatures on a petition to force the party to hold a meeting in coming weeks to consider overthrowing this morning’s vote and beginning the preselection process again. More than two thirds of the party’s membership have been deemed ineligible to take part in the preselection process.

In other exciting news it’s going to be Lee v. Leigh in Fraser after Elizabeth Lee agreed to take up the poisoned chalice.

* Pogonophile, a lover of beards.


UPDATE 23/02/13 17:46: Craig Stanley has sent in video from the announcement.

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58 Responses to Zeddites triumph over Pogos, for now
#1
johnboy5:37 pm, 23 Feb 13

This in from a prominent Liberal who did not wish to be named:

    Today, Zed said Gary brought the party into disrepute going the the media. I say what about branch stacking, bullying members, limiting communication with the membership and dragging the Party through the media with the Teo Faulkner time sheet debacle. Such a small game.
    Zed is a self interested lightweight who has never won an election, or held a portfolio, believing his own rhetoric.
    Sadly the community looses this should be the true focus of politics.

#2
Thumper5:48 pm, 23 Feb 13

The words cold, calculating, back stabbing and bastard sort of leap to mind.

#3
CrocodileGandhi6:01 pm, 23 Feb 13

I would have gone for “Dawn of the Zed” for the title.

#4
Kim F6:06 pm, 23 Feb 13

Has Zed ever had a job outside of politics?

#5
LegalNut6:07 pm, 23 Feb 13

The Liberals clearly haven’t thought this through. Zed had solid appeal in the ACT election because he is somewhat credible on local issues. On the federal stage, he is going to prove to be a big mistake.

Gary, as a moderate Liberal, had good cross-appeal into the Labor voter pool. Zed does not have the same broad appeal to centrist Labor voters. I expect to see a swing against the Liberals if Zed remains the candidate.

The key though (and what will have Simon Sheikh smiling) is that Liberal leakage into the Labor ticket is as bad as leakage to the Greens as each additional vote for Labor above their quota means that there is more excess that distributes to the Greens as well as the Liberals as the votes of those who would ordinarily choose Labor will also be distributed.

I’m not going as far as predicting that Zed won’t win the seat for the Liberals but they make it a whole lot harder for themselves picking a candidate that lacks gravitas with the federal party and appeal to centrist Canberra voters.

#6
aussielyn6:25 pm, 23 Feb 13

Zed chops off Gazza’s head.
Six months left to sharpen blade for the head of Simon Sheikh.
Get the young libs to start dirt file on Getup.
Practice with watermelons, spit word bullets.
Vlad the Impaler was a lightweight, Z is a Tuggeranong hero.

#7
DrKoresh6:41 pm, 23 Feb 13

LegalNut said :

The Liberals clearly haven’t thought this through. Zed had solid appeal in the ACT election because he is somewhat credible on local issues. On the federal stage, he is going to prove to be a big mistake.

Gary, as a moderate Liberal, had good cross-appeal into the Labor voter pool. Zed does not have the same broad appeal to centrist Labor voters. I expect to see a swing against the Liberals if Zed remains the candidate.

The key though (and what will have Simon Sheikh smiling) is that Liberal leakage into the Labor ticket is as bad as leakage to the Greens as each additional vote for Labor above their quota means that there is more excess that distributes to the Greens as well as the Liberals as the votes of those who would ordinarily choose Labor will also be distributed.

I’m not going as far as predicting that Zed won’t win the seat for the Liberals but they make it a whole lot harder for themselves picking a candidate that lacks gravitas with the federal party and appeal to centrist Canberra voters.

I would love it if the Libs lost this seat, if only for the fact that maybe they’ll see that not everyone wants to ride this new wave of ‘big-C’ Conservatism. I was raised in a Labor household, but I’ve been trying to put aside my ingrained prejudices of the Right, but social conservatism is something I can’t abide by. And also to see Zed fall flat on his face, I must admit I’d love to see that.

#8
Pork Hunt6:56 pm, 23 Feb 13

aussielyn said :

Zed chops off Gazza’s head.
Six months left to sharpen blade for the head of Simon Sheikh.
Get the young libs to start dirt file on Getup.
Practice with watermelons, spit word bullets.
Vlad the Impaler was a lightweight, Z is a Tuggeranong hero.

Are you drunk or on drugs?

#9
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:03 pm, 23 Feb 13

DrKoresh said :

LegalNut said :

The Liberals clearly haven’t thought this through. Zed had solid appeal in the ACT election because he is somewhat credible on local issues. On the federal stage, he is going to prove to be a big mistake.

Gary, as a moderate Liberal, had good cross-appeal into the Labor voter pool. Zed does not have the same broad appeal to centrist Labor voters. I expect to see a swing against the Liberals if Zed remains the candidate.

The key though (and what will have Simon Sheikh smiling) is that Liberal leakage into the Labor ticket is as bad as leakage to the Greens as each additional vote for Labor above their quota means that there is more excess that distributes to the Greens as well as the Liberals as the votes of those who would ordinarily choose Labor will also be distributed.

I’m not going as far as predicting that Zed won’t win the seat for the Liberals but they make it a whole lot harder for themselves picking a candidate that lacks gravitas with the federal party and appeal to centrist Canberra voters.

I would love it if the Libs lost this seat, if only for the fact that maybe they’ll see that not everyone wants to ride this new wave of ‘big-C’ Conservatism. I was raised in a Labor household, but I’ve been trying to put aside my ingrained prejudices of the Right, but social conservatism is something I can’t abide by. And also to see Zed fall flat on his face, I must admit I’d love to see that.

100% the same view from me, except I grew up in a liberal family and rejected it as soon as I was old enough to know.

I’m not going to be as well spoken or diplomatic as you are, dr koresh, I’m just going to say any body who votes for a zed ever is: a grade A mong or a developer or a grade A mong who is a brainwashed god botherer or a grade A mong who is some sort of LIBERAL 4 LYFE GREENS AND LABOUR = TRIPLE RATES!

#10
Masquara7:06 pm, 23 Feb 13

Zed & Julia – peas in a pod.

#11
johnboy7:17 pm, 23 Feb 13

The old folks wanting to take back control from the youth sounds like a recipe for long term disaster.

Mind you letting young liberals run things sounds like short term disaster!

#12
Pork Hunt7:25 pm, 23 Feb 13

johnboy said :

The old folks wanting to take back control from the youth sounds like a recipe for long term disaster.

Mind you letting young liberals run things sounds like short term disaster!

But only until they get older…

#13
PantsMan7:32 pm, 23 Feb 13

Either way, I know that I – as a Canberran – will have an ineffectual no one sucking off the public teat while purporting to represent me in the Senate.

#14
Mr Evil7:48 pm, 23 Feb 13

Gary, this is what happens when you become too comfortable and a little bit lazy – the young guns will shaft you as soon as they see a chance.

Apart from listening to the ‘all-knowing’ Sky Fairy and Catherine Carter – what does Zed actually stand for, and how will he make a difference being one of the ACT’s representatives in the Senate?

#15
Lillypilly7:52 pm, 23 Feb 13

I hope, if there are no avenues given for an appeal and a chance to conduct a fair and complete vote of the membership, that Zed DOES lose. That there is no liberal senate seat in canberra next period.

I get annoyed when I now hear hardline liberals (aka oldies) are now saying to get behind Zed. Are you kidding me? Complain about the way this all went down (which is calculated deception), and then reward/condone the behaviour by voting him in anyway?

Yeah, ok, have THAT guy (and the people behind him who made it happen) representing you in the senate. Yeah, good idea.

Condone the shady process (and make that the new benchmark for preselection process) and vote him in, or don’t vote for him and stand up for the fair vote you wanted.

#16
Aeek7:58 pm, 23 Feb 13

Masquara said :

Zed & Julia – peas in a pod.

Is that Julia G, or Julia with a G ?

#17
Kim F8:38 pm, 23 Feb 13

If the Libs overturn this and Zed doesn’t gain pre-selection, so he remains a member of Leg assembly, will he seek to regain leadership?

#18
urchin8:39 pm, 23 Feb 13

those signs really convey their half-hearted rage.

#19
jjoking8:48 pm, 23 Feb 13

Today the young liberals traded their guaranteed front bench senator for a first term back bencher. Great call, Zed keeps saying he has a lot to offer. What exactly does he have to offer? He is good at employing family and friends and ambushing people but other than that Im not sure what he has to offer.

My guess is liberals snate vote will be lower with Zed than it would have been with Gary, I know I would have voted for Zed but I won’t vote for Zed. He is too far to the right for most

#20
Mr Evil9:31 pm, 23 Feb 13

Aeek said :

Masquara said :

Zed & Julia – peas in a pod.

Is that Julia G, or Julia with a G ?

Julia wearing a g?

#21
HiddenDragon10:48 pm, 23 Feb 13

LegalNut said :

The Liberals clearly haven’t thought this through. Zed had solid appeal in the ACT election because he is somewhat credible on local issues. On the federal stage, he is going to prove to be a big mistake.

Gary, as a moderate Liberal, had good cross-appeal into the Labor voter pool. Zed does not have the same broad appeal to centrist Labor voters. I expect to see a swing against the Liberals if Zed remains the candidate.

The key though (and what will have Simon Sheikh smiling) is that Liberal leakage into the Labor ticket is as bad as leakage to the Greens as each additional vote for Labor above their quota means that there is more excess that distributes to the Greens as well as the Liberals as the votes of those who would ordinarily choose Labor will also be distributed.

I’m not going as far as predicting that Zed won’t win the seat for the Liberals but they make it a whole lot harder for themselves picking a candidate that lacks gravitas with the federal party and appeal to centrist Canberra voters.

Sounds about right to me, even if some of the subtleties are a bit challenging at this time on a Saturday night.

I understand Tom Sefton was chosen for Canberra. Fear and loathing of Abbott will no doubt see Gai Brodtmann returned, but if his performance in the ACT poll is anything to go by, Tom could give it a surprisingly good shake.

#22
dungfungus10:54 pm, 23 Feb 13

johnboy said :

The old folks wanting to take back control from the youth sounds like a recipe for long term disaster.

Mind you letting young liberals run things sounds like short term disaster!

You have nailed it right here. Anyone with a grey beard isn’t going to appeal to young voters these days. Humphries is yesterday’s man politically speaking – experience means nothing anymore.
The Greens have just realised that they made a big mistake replacing the fossilised Bob Brown with someone who emulates a retired school mistress when they should heve installed the young and cool Sarah H-Y who will appeal to the young voters.
Why do you think The Greens are runnning Simon Sheikh in the ACT?
Zed will pull a lot of the young voters which Humphries would have no chance of if he was preselected.
The Blue Rinse Liberals that still support Humphries were Young Liberals once too.

#23
WillowJim10:56 pm, 23 Feb 13

Kim F said :

Has Zed ever had a job outside of politics?

He worked in a government department’s legal unit.

#24
Deref8:32 am, 24 Feb 13

Pork Hunt said :

johnboy said :

The old folks wanting to take back control from the youth sounds like a recipe for long term disaster.

Mind you letting young liberals run things sounds like short term disaster!

But only until they get older…

Then it becomes a long-term disaster.

There’s been a notion floating around for some time that Z is a young-Earth creationist. Does anyone know whether that’s true or not?

#25
drfelonious8:38 am, 24 Feb 13

So is Gary No.2 on the ticket?

If so, it seems to me it is not beyond the realms of possibility he could still retain his seat.

I, for one, could vote for Gary but not for Zed.

#26
fraserdude9:04 am, 24 Feb 13

Who is this Zed character anyway? Haven’t really ever noticed him.

#27
schmeah9:41 am, 24 Feb 13

Elizabeth Lee on the Fraser ticket!

Poor Guilia ran the constant campaign of both local and federal elections enough times that it finally paid off with sufficient sympathy votes, so it’s good to see Lee has been passed the rewarding mantel of long term disappointment.

The torch of election stoogery has been passed on. Riveting times.

#28
bigred11:16 am, 24 Feb 13

The way things are tracking at present, Kate Lundy should be thinking very hard about looking after her constituency. I think the closeness of the three way contest could surprise a few people.

#29
PoQ12:04 pm, 24 Feb 13

I like what John Howard said about Canberra: “Looks like Kirribilli, votes like Cessnock”.

#30
Mr Evil12:07 pm, 24 Feb 13

bigred said :

The way things are tracking at present, Kate Lundy should be thinking very hard about looking after her constituency. I think the closeness of the three way contest could surprise a few people.

Kate will be fine. She’ll just trundle out the same old union story that the Liberals will hack into the PS, herd women and children into fields and shoot them, burn down the National Library, High Court & National Gallery, and close all public schools and hospitals – and once again the same stupid, gormless people of Canberra will fall for it all again.

Of course, by September we will have forgetten all about the impact Labor’s PS cuts and fiscal mismangement have had on Canberra……..

Basically we’re screwed either way! :-)

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