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10 days later Coe shrieks about Adelaide Avenue bus lane

By johnboy - 14 November 2011 39

Back on 4 November we noted moves afoot to change the Adelaide Avenue T2 lane back into a bus lane.

Today the Liberals’ Alistair Coe is deploying some interesting logic to decry the move:

The Canberra Liberals strongly disagree with ACT Labor’s removal of the T2 lane on Adelaide Avenue, and will take every step to reverse the change. ACT Shadow Transport Services Minister Alistair Coe said the change will increase travel times for motorists, and does nothing to improve public transport.

“I urge Simon Corbell to abandon this illogical change,” Mr Coe said today.

“Until today, the T2 lane was shared by car-pooling motorists and buses. “Now, only buses can use the lane, but bus timetables have not changed, meaning the bus times will not improve. Instead, car-pooling motorists will be forced to join the already congested traffic, with little incentive to travel together.

“There are no winners as a result of this change, and it’s another example of ACT Labor stifling Canberran’s use of the car without making improvements to the dire public transport system.

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10 days later Coe shrieks about Adelaide Avenue bus lane
Solidarity 2:44 pm 14 Nov 11

dpm said :

Solidarity said :

AG Canberra said :

Buses on Adeliade Ave regularly do more than 80. Smartphone GPS is a nice little tool – as is the online form for Canberra Connect to report speeding drivers. You can check the speed and shoot off the complaint all from your cramped seat.

That would be operating a mobile device while driving, i’m going to dob you in, huzzuh!

I’m guessing AG was a passenger on the bus – not a driver….

Ah wow, half this site is people complaining that thier trip got held up by convoy/cyclist/roadworks, the other half is complaining that thier trip is getting completed faster, but oh no 2KM/H OVER THE LIMIT WILL PROBABLY KILL 500 BABIES.

Wow, what a whingefest!

dpm 2:33 pm 14 Nov 11

Solidarity said :

AG Canberra said :

Buses on Adeliade Ave regularly do more than 80. Smartphone GPS is a nice little tool – as is the online form for Canberra Connect to report speeding drivers. You can check the speed and shoot off the complaint all from your cramped seat.

That would be operating a mobile device while driving, i’m going to dob you in, huzzuh!

I’m guessing AG was a passenger on the bus – not a driver….

HenryBG 2:18 pm 14 Nov 11

dungfungus said :

Lillypilly said :

I think the most amusing thing was Mr Corbell on this 666 this morning, blaming bad driving on Adelaide avenue on the T2 lane.

Oh and him putting his foot in it saying that buses speed in the bus lane (which they do)

Well, at least car drivers will no longer be exposed to harassment of bus drivers who think they own the T-2. A couple of months ago I was tailgated by a bus in the T-2 lane while I was doing 82kph (on cruise control). He was so close I couldn’t see his headlights. At the end of the T-2 he swerved into the adjacent lane, sped past me and gave me the finger then disappeared weaving through the traffic at high speed. Complaints to ACTION were a waste of time even though two witnesses in my car got the rego of the bus as well as the “finger”. The complaints lady at ACTION said it would be 2 weeks before they could review the matter as they were “snowed under” with similar complaints against drivers. After follow-up calls they advised the driver had been interviewed and denied any knowledge of the incident. ACTION then said I must have got the rego number wrong – end of matter.
From now on I will not extend any courtesy to ACTION drivers – they are untouchable, overpaid and ill-mannered.

In other words, you were doing about 73km/h and hogging the right-hand lane.
I would have given you the finger, too.
If you don’t want to drive to the speed limit, at the very least don’t impede those that do.

Solidarity 2:15 pm 14 Nov 11

AG Canberra said :

Buses on Adeliade Ave regularly do more than 80. Smartphone GPS is a nice little tool – as is the online form for Canberra Connect to report speeding drivers. You can check the speed and shoot off the complaint all from your cramped seat.

That would be operating a mobile device while driving, i’m going to dob you in, huzzuh!

AG Canberra 2:06 pm 14 Nov 11

Buses on Adeliade Ave regularly do more than 80. Smartphone GPS is a nice little tool – as is the online form for Canberra Connect to report speeding drivers. You can check the speed and shoot off the complaint all from your cramped seat.

In my experience the speeding usually occurs during peak times where the driver is forced to make up time when the bus is full (because they have spent more time collecting passengers). This of course makes it all the more dangerous as there are many people standing and any accident would be that much worse.

dungfungus 2:01 pm 14 Nov 11

Lillypilly said :

I think the most amusing thing was Mr Corbell on this 666 this morning, blaming bad driving on Adelaide avenue on the T2 lane.

Oh and him putting his foot in it saying that buses speed in the bus lane (which they do)

Well, at least car drivers will no longer be exposed to harassment of bus drivers who think they own the T-2. A couple of months ago I was tailgated by a bus in the T-2 lane while I was doing 82kph (on cruise control). He was so close I couldn’t see his headlights. At the end of the T-2 he swerved into the adjacent lane, sped past me and gave me the finger then disappeared weaving through the traffic at high speed. Complaints to ACTION were a waste of time even though two witnesses in my car got the rego of the bus as well as the “finger”. The complaints lady at ACTION said it would be 2 weeks before they could review the matter as they were “snowed under” with similar complaints against drivers. After follow-up calls they advised the driver had been interviewed and denied any knowledge of the incident. ACTION then said I must have got the rego number wrong – end of matter.
From now on I will not extend any courtesy to ACTION drivers – they are untouchable, overpaid and ill-mannered.

Bussie 1:25 pm 14 Nov 11

Lillypilly said :

I think the most amusing thing was Mr Corbell on this 666 this morning, blaming bad driving on Adelaide avenue on the T2 lane.

Oh and him putting his foot in it saying that buses speed in the bus lane (which they do)

Buses without passenger seatbelts (for eg all ACTION buses) are legally required to be speed limited to 80. Some can do a bit over but not much.

Innovation 12:49 pm 14 Nov 11

Lillypilly said :

I think the most amusing thing was Mr Corbell on this 666 this morning, blaming bad driving on Adelaide avenue on the T2 lane.

Oh and him putting his foot in it saying that buses speed in the bus lane (which they do)

And the irony that cars “pulling in and out of that lane are a danger to buses” but motorcycles of all persuasions can still use the lane. And why can a taxi with one occupant (the driver) travel in that lane whereas a car with multiple occupants can’t?

At the end of the day, this is not a big deal. I just object to the way it was done, that is, as soon as the GDE is finished (as per the announcement when it started) but before they have considered comments on their draft transport policy. And if they considered that the car numbers were so insignificant but still very dangerous why didn’t they make this part of their announcement to close the T2 in the first place?

Mysteryman 12:18 pm 14 Nov 11

“Until today, the T2 lane was shared by car-pooling motorists and buses. “Now, only buses can use the lane, but bus timetables have not changed, meaning the bus times will not improve. Instead, car-pooling motorists will be forced to join the already congested traffic, with little incentive to travel together.”

I don’t really care about it being a bus only lane, but that’s actually a pretty good point.

Lillypilly 12:11 pm 14 Nov 11

I think the most amusing thing was Mr Corbell on this 666 this morning, blaming bad driving on Adelaide avenue on the T2 lane.

Oh and him putting his foot in it saying that buses speed in the bus lane (which they do)

Thoroughly Smashed 12:03 pm 14 Nov 11

“There are no winners as a result of this change, and it’s another example of ACT Labor stifling Canberran’s use of the car without making improvements to the dire public transport system.”

So, what’s the name of this mystery Canberran?

Watson 11:49 am 14 Nov 11

How many of those T2 lanes are there exactly in Canberra? Is it 2? Adding up to about 2 kilometers? That REALLY is going to motivate people to car pool.

EvanJames 11:38 am 14 Nov 11

Two people in a car are not a car pool!

PantsMan 11:36 am 14 Nov 11

My next door neighbour wants to build a fence. Could Mr Coe put out a Media Release on that?

madamcholet 11:34 am 14 Nov 11

It wasn’t broken and therefore didn’t need to be fixed. HOWEVER…I drove up there this morning at about 8.20 and didn’t notice that the world was ending, although I did see two cars using the T2 lane…and one bus. The biggest problem on that road in peak traffic is the lanes that merge onto Adelaide Ave from the left and cyclists flitting across the merge lanes, but that’s not going to be helped by letting certain cars use the T2 lane.

I’d definitely agree with letting cars with more than one person in use it – it more than likely helps the overall flow of traffic even if it is minor assistance. The buses are not exactly bumper to bumper on that road.

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