25 January 2009

The accused Downer Murderer and me

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Court Case of McDougall [ED – guessing here that we’re talking about this one] on 10th Feb 2009

    – I have known him personally for years, for 8 years I have adored McDougall!

    – I will be there on 10th Feb to see him there – And all be known that I have been fond of him for years.

    – No matter what he did i still care for him but wish he would just be upfront.

    – I lost my mobile recently in ACT & if anyone has found it please hand it in as it has photos of Scott on there that I do not wish to be released to the public.

    – By the way does anyone have photos of him?

Em

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If you know Scott that well, it’s quite simple to write to him.If you were that close then he’d know your number and he’d call you from the prison.If he hasn’t ,then you must’nt be?
A clear attempt to gain some sort of attention.
It appears to me that have issues?Who cares that you know Scott and that you have photos of him?You don’t want the phone back,you just want people to know you knew him and want some attention.A touch ridiculous when your anonymous.Who would they send the phone to should it be found?Em of ?? street ??I agree with the majority of these commentors! GET A LIFE!!!

Mr Waffle said :

Will they allow conjugal visits at the new prison/holiday home, I wonder?

yes they do but they are called family visits and they only go for four hours.

Julianx – Whoever you are spot on. May this festering waste of space be committed to trial in the next few weeks then once inside may he get back from the universe exactly what he deserves.

Hey ant go back to your pissant life you worthless parasite. Amber, Em, whoever you are, you deserve Macdougall, he always was a joke, yes i knew this coward, he was as pathetic in life as he will be in death, this festering scab of society will never get away with his crime, he will get what he deserves. Yes i knew Julie and the family better than most, peace to you, I’m sure justice, whether court ordered or not will be done.

Amber this is not a game or a soap opera, these people (victims families) deserve dignity and respect and its terribly sad that you don’t think about that because their pain is much more real than your fantasy and this is not helping him either (Scott). It has nothing to do with you, don’t add to this sad situation.. So if you really care about Scott I suggest that you move on..

Scrag fight at 11. I imagine that it’s probably good for us to be exposed to these kinds of people, in small doses. Probably.

I very much hope that justice will be done, and that this will bring some measure of comfort to you all, Marilyn.

I don’t claim to know what happens when people die. I have believed many different things at different times. What is important is for you to feel that your daughter is at peace, and I hope that this finally brings the closure you feel she is looking for.

Big hug,
Granny

Granny
Thank you, I have to be strong for my family and my poor old mother who 82 years old, I only hope it doesn’t take its toll on her, I just wish he would be a man and plead guilty so we don’t have to go through all this, dragging on, prolonging his sentence but I will do whatever it takes to get justice for Julie who was an inccent victim, she will not rest until the court case is over and justice is done, she is still around us in spirit.

Marilyn

Amber
That goes for your friend Bella, KEEP AWAY!!!!!!!!!

It sounds like you’re just going through the most awful time, Marilyn. I think we’ve all made it pretty clear to Amber what we think of her around here.

We pretty much all just want her to go away.

I’m glad you have something to hold on to in this terrible time of pain and sorrow, and I really do wish you and your family peace and hope you will know happiness again one day.

It is just so sad.

Amber
Don’t come in arms reach of me or my family, friends

Granny
sorry about your child, I didn’t know, I’m not an angrey person, I believe in karma and he will not rob us of our lives, my faith has helped me (new age) I believe in the after life, just a very hard time as my brother is dying of cancer, he isn’t fifty yet, maybe only 4,5,6 weeks to live, I don’t need someone with the likes Amber getting on site stirring up things up, she has tried to have a conversation at court with me, and hovers around to hear what she can for the media, she has been told to leave us alone, bad news that one, a real sicko
Marilyn

Of course I would, Marilyn.

Most people on this site would know that I had a child molested, so I know how it feels to want to kill someone – to fantasise about it even.

But I know that in the end the bitterness and hatred were consuming me and not hurting him in the slightest. It was very freeing for me to let go of all that. If I hadn’t I would have ended up twisted and warped.

I can’t even begin to imagine what you are going through. No woman should have to bury a child.

You have my deepest, deepest sympathy. If I could turn back time and change the world for you, I would.

Killing him won’t bring back one hair of Julie’s head and would make you a killer like him. But you can be bigger than him. You are better than him. That is what I realised on my own journey out of despair.

You don’t have to make us hate him. We already do.

Granny! I wonder if you would feel the same if it were your daughter who was murdered? I am bringing out my anger on this site, as I was told by my councellor that I am suppressing my anger, this is the only way I can vent the anger, who else can I take it out on, certaining not my family as we are going through so much pain, and I would gladly pull the trigger on monster without a second thought
Marilyn

Yes, just hold onto that.

As long as there is free speech there will always be people who say hurtful and shocking things – sometimes intentionally and sometimes without thinking. That is hard, but it is the way of the world. You can’t fight that. I’ve tried, and it’s just not possible.

All you can do is put your point of view with dignity. Most people will respect your grief.

I still believe that freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, even with all the negative words that are spoken.

I know you have been fighting long and hard to defend your sister, but nobody can hurt her anymore. They can only hurt you.

You really need to look after you right now. I really think it is good that you can let these hurts go. I can’t speak for Julie, but if you were my sister I would just want you to be happy.

Thank you Granny for your kind words.

If I appear to be bitter that certainly was not my intention certainly upset but not bitter. Two lives have already been taken & our family will not let this person take our lives from us. The saddness and pain will never go away but in time we will find better ways of coping with this tragedy.

Again it is another reminder that life is short & to live each day to the fullest, appreciate the quality time you have with family & close friends – You never know what is around the corner in life.

I dont feel the need to give Ant the time of day to fire back with a nasty reply as that is what he/she is looking for. We are a family that is alot stronger than ever before & as court proceeds I am sure that there will be many more remarks made from people & rumours that are made up to make a headline story however that is not our business what one chooses to say/write it is all gossip.

We know how loving our Julie was & thats what matters most, nothing else.

This is a terrible thread.

Granny, as always a cooling voice of sanity and compassion in a sea of casual nastiness.

Jeese this is a strange thread. Anyway it begs the question can you be arrested for stalking a killer in gaol?

Most commenters here don’t need to be told that these murders are serious, which is why Amber/Em sickened and disgusted us; but if you reduce yourself to their level you just lose public sympathy which I’m sure is not your intention.

I abhor capital punishment and I’m glad I live in a nation that had the decency to get rid of it.

Yes, we all get that ‘line them up against a wall’ feeling from time to time, especially when we hear of real cruelty, but we would sacrifice so much that is good about our legal system in order to satisfy that bloodlust.

Ant or is it pissant
They would not allow such trash, unlike this site

Hi Granny Just a figure of speech, expressing the seriousness of the murders

It’s always sad when stalker’s information is years out of date.

Thanks for sharing your photos, Bel. I’m really sorry about what happened to your sister. She was taken away from you way too young in a horrible way.

I’m really sorry about that, but she obviously lived her life with a very loving family and good friends and lived it to the full.

Some people live their whole lives without ever really feeling loved.

But she is gone and you are here. I’m more worried about you. Bitterness isn’t the way. It will damage you as a person, damage you as a parent, and ruin your life.

But that’s a realisation you will have to come to yourself. Nobody can tell anyone. In the end it is your journey alone. You never wanted it, but you can’t get off now. All the very best for the future and for your brave new life ahead.

Cheers,
Granny

Old threads never die, they just get weirder and weirder!!

“If you would like to see photos of our dear Julie, not from the media please see the site of: http://julie-sarah-tattersall.gonetoosoon.org/memorial/

Would you mind terribly much if I submitted that url to “worst url ever”?

And Shame on you Johnny boy for your comment, I emailed you personally months ago in relation to the comments made on my sisters murder & you told me you did not support the comments. So why now have you fueled the situation by writing ‘#4 posted by johnboy
(RiotACT Overlord)
10:25, 25 Jan 2009
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“johnboy
(RiotACT Overlord)
10:25, 25 Jan 2009
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Actually BWK we love tabloid crap and want more”.

The sadness is so deep Johnyboy, what other sadness can you requst for?
Do you want photos of Julies badly decomosed body to satisfy you? What would you
like as far as I am concered life does not get anyworse & you are a sicko!
If anyone writes on your site YOU hold the power to withhold information so use
what you have idiot & stop getting off on peoples personalities.
Be nice to stuit a private site on youserlf which is not hard to do as you are
based in Turner ACT.

All we ask as a family is please let our dear Julie rest in peace xo xo

Please, Please,

Just everyone please leave this horrific crime alone.

I ask people who knew Julie or didn’t know Julie to leave this to forensic evidence and the ACT DDP. Please respect our wishes & let our Julie rest in Peace.

If you would like to see photos of our dear Julie, not from the media please see the site of: http://julie-sarah-tattersall.gonetoosoon.org/memorial/

As a family we have had so much great support from all AFP & Victims of homocide support groups which we are so greatful for.

After the court case our family will release full details to the ABC news. Can we please
ask that comments are left to a minimum until after the courtcase/supreme court, whichever path this case goes down.

Our love for Julie grows stronger & we dearly miss her as time goes by.

I am sure that Strauns family feels the same & I ask all of you to please stop all

comments and wait until the trial. As for AMBER yes she is a person that is sadly obsessed with McDougall & that is her choice.

For us as a family all we hope for is that this monster is put away from the public so he can never perform such a violent act upon anyone else & no family has to suffer the loss as we have & will do for some time ahead.

Our loved ones were so kind hearted, with hearts of gold.

I know my dear sister Julie will be so sadly missed by myself, her only nephew James & family & friends. Our endless phone calls, sms etc is just so missed. Her voice, one of cheer & joy.

And to end my story, those of you that didnt get to meet Jules I am so sorry as if you did she was the type of person who made an impact on your life. Her funny witty personality, her zest for life & most of all her ability to get along with all walks of life.

Thank you Jewels for being in my life,
Love sis Bel
x0 x0 x0

Rose1 I actually doubt that very much, as this is the 21st century, so you may need to adjust your clocks or something.

Deckard I doubt it very much, when all is revealed what he did to the victims there will be a linching mob, as he should be hung

Amber

PS: He will not be in court on the 10th Feburary, just goes to show how much you are in contact with him

Amber! What you need to realise is that the families and friends are VICTIMS of a heinous crime, the night he murdered those two inoccent human beings he also ended his life, he has no future, you have been stalking McDougall now for nearly 9 years, you really need a life, I suggest you get some help to move on with your life as you deserve a life, make the most of life and enjoy, Julie and Straun didn’t have that choice, their lives were taken away from them so cruely and cowderly, your lucky he didn’t murder you, and yes I have a picture of Monster with two other friends sitting each side of ‘it’ on a couch, a young McDougall

Pauline was simple, so simple she asked if it was possible for an independent to become PM.

Pauline Hanson’s simple tax was 2% on every transaction in Australia (except atm withdrawals, and savings deposits).

Policy doco here:
http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/policy/tax.html

I think it was Pauline Hanson that said she would fund everything with a 1% tax on every ATM withdrawal?

dexi said :

“p1, fairly certain that they are. or not. may be a way to get us talking about nothing. (as if we need help)”

Could you put a tax on mobile phone content. Say 1 cent per transmitted photo. Then get rid of income tax.

Taxing TXT messages. Why not?

aren’t they already? i thought, seeing that they are a service, they would include gst.

“p1, fairly certain that they are. or not. may be a way to get us talking about nothing. (as if we need help)”

Could you put a tax on mobile phone content. Say 1 cent per transmitted photo. Then get rid of income tax.

Taxing TXT messages. Why not?

p1 said :

and why haven’t you reported it to the police?

because the photos are in some way incriminating?

p1, fairly certain that they are. or not. may be a way to get us talking about nothing. (as if we need help)

and why haven’t you reported it to the police?

because the photos are in some way incriminating?

Skidbladnir said :

So, you’re possibly unstable, have lost your phone, so have posted to an open forum that you want it back, but haven’t provided a description of it, or where you want it “handed in” to.
After quite openly admitting that the digital photos on it were out of your care for a while, and that the photos have content that you (or he) might not want widely known\distributed…
Lets say that through a stroke of luck you get the phone back.

How will you prove to yourself\him that they weren’t either copied off the phone or forwarded around?

and why haven’t you reported it to the police?

wait…

I’d suggest the mobile is probably wedged up her arse, somewhere next to her head!

Maybe Scottie can do a Milat and send you a finger when he’s in the bighouse????

Did y’a’ find your phone yet Emily [Amber(em)]?

If one of those is really your name.

Emily said :

didnt mean to cause such a riot
Amber (em)

Yes you did. What have those poor people ever done to you?

Just go away Amber/Em.

didnt mean to cause such a riot
Amber (em)

That,s nothing in Stabwood when we see a knife fight, we join in. Last stabby standing wins.

Nope SadMushroom, I don’t know much about the seamy side of Queanbeyan, I don’t live there, my friends who live there don’t appear to know much about it either, or if they do they don’t say anything about it. I’m not interested enough in that sort of thing to remember it if I saw it on the news, I don’t read the newspaper often.

But your reply to #16 didn’t address my point, are you claiming that there have never been any murders investigated or prosecuted in Queanbeyan ( instead of generally ) until recently?

I was at home not raping and pillaging.

I love “i was at home not drinking”. I think that says it all.

Could it be they didn’t quite understand your grammar? I think that Queanbeyan suffers from a over abundance of low(er) socio-economic circumstance residents, and the usual small town level of policing.

Heres a show,,,
New years eve, I called police as I watched a fight where a guy was threatening to stab other people..I was at home not drinking, my dogs woke me up.
This was outside my house..Police were called and I seen police cars racing up the road below me..I told the guy with the knife to piss off,,and had my dogs behind me..
After the police dealt with the fires at the funeral home,,they came and seen me…

I didn’t know about the fires at the funeral home (I watched it blow up and thought it was dud fireworks)but the guys fighting were about 50m away when the police were going there and I rang about the fight with a knife…
When the police attended my call ( a few hours later) do you think they told me or even asked me about the fires?
NOPE
I seen the fires and the people fighting on the corner BUT do you think they asked me?NOPE,,,do you think I will ring up and say anthing,,,,NOPE
Not my job,,,

gingermick said :

A big “Hello”from the twilight zone.

hiya ginger,
did you hear about the seige in Fergus Road??

Crazy

dexi said :

This may be a fake, to lure family and friends back to the forum. Those that read previous threads, know how hard it was for family and friends to let go. They have let it rest till the court case. Then along comes a one time newbie with a dodgy story. Smells of poo.

I thought this happened with ferret torturers – Thomas Sorahan and Adriano Larobina. I reckon one of their supporters got on here defending them so that they’d cop another round of abuse that they could use in their sentencing hearing. ie to show that they’d been publicly humiliated enough and hoping they’d get a reduced sentence.

If enough people read the abuse this guy gets then it might be harder to form a jury when the time comes.

grunge_hippy said :

“What has become too familiar is people from Queanbeyan getting the sh*ts about something and just thinking they can go and kill people.”

there are going to be more and more people like this… i see them in schools now as children… no remorse, no sense of decency and no sense of right and wrong, just acting on impulse, not caring of consequences. people may argue that kids are like that, and yes, generally they are. but i see kids now and i know that they will end up either seriously assulting someone or killing them.

Thank the Baby Bonus and the constant promotion of the heterosexual lifestyle for that . . .

A big “Hello”from the twilight zone.

Actually SheepGroper from #16,
You probably don’t know what has been going on in Queanbeyan as alot of it is kept quiet and some doesn’t even make the news.
**off track for a minute, About 3 years ago there was a 7 month old baby held at knife point for 9 hours by his father,,the street was closed off by many many police and after a few hours, 2 seperate tactical response teams were called in from Sydney. One lot arrived in a van/truck and after not being able to do anything a helicopter with shooters was called in a couple of hours later. They had to clear an oval (of people playing sports)for the helicopter to land.
After it was over the baby had to be kept in hospital as the father had been feeding the baby Panadol (the drowsey one) to keep it still and quiet for the 9 hours. They weren’t sure how long it would take the baby to wake up or what condition he would be in.

There were a few small mentions on the radio at the time saying there was a seige but noone knew what was happening.
Did you ever see this on the news or in the papers???
Did you ever hear anything about it??
I know for a fact afterwards the media was informed, but alas it didn’t make a news worthy story!!!!!****back on track

Queanbeyan has been becoming like the ‘twilight zone’ for years.
You can ring 000 for help and they will send someone out in the next 12 to 24hours.
You can be asked by one group of police to ring immediately if you know/hear anything and get ignored by the next lot of police when you do ring.

Somehow only the police winning stories make the news.
The other stories seem to somehow ‘get lost’

– By the way does anyone have photos of him?

Yes, they were on a phone I bought from a guy at the pub last night….

grunge_hippy4:00 pm 25 Jan 09

“What has become too familiar is people from Queanbeyan getting the sh*ts about something and just thinking they can go and kill people.”

there are going to be more and more people like this… i see them in schools now as children… no remorse, no sense of decency and no sense of right and wrong, just acting on impulse, not caring of consequences. people may argue that kids are like that, and yes, generally they are. but i see kids now and i know that they will end up either seriously assulting someone or killing them.

Trolling. Ignore it.

Mr Waffle said :

Will they allow conjugal visits at the new prison/holiday home, I wonder?

yes they will allow conjugal visits in AMC

This may be a fake, to lure family and friends back to the forum. Those that read previous threads, know how hard it was for family and friends to let go. They have let it rest till the court case. Then along comes a one time newbie with a dodgy story. Smells of poo.

Worse case, as Granny has said, this is a cruel, senseless thread.

SheepGroper said :

SadMushroom said :

Police are finally starting to investigate and catch (alleged) murderers but there is still too many unsolved over the years for my liking.

Really? I was under the impression that in all sorts of countries, even ours, the local law enforcement had been investigating and catching murderers for a long, long time.

Not sure if you have any idea what has been happening around Queanbeyan in the last few years, but there has been quite a few murders, and attempted and alot of other stuff which could be classed as attempts.
Not many have been solved.

So, you’re possibly unstable, have lost your phone, so have posted to an open forum that you want it back, but haven’t provided a description of it, or where you want it “handed in” to.
After quite openly admitting that the digital photos on it were out of your care for a while, and that the photos have content that you (or he) might not want widely known\distributed…
Lets say that through a stroke of luck you get the phone back.

How will you prove to yourself\him that they weren’t either copied off the phone or forwarded around?

SadMushroom said :

Police are finally starting to investigate and catch (alleged) murderers but there is still too many unsolved over the years for my liking.

Really? I was under the impression that in all sorts of countries, even ours, the local law enforcement had been investigating and catching murderers for a long, long time.

…as it has photos of Scott on there that I do not wish to be released to the public

How tantalizing. I wonder what is in the photos. Can anyone speculate? Let’s hope a RiotACTor finds them.

I just went back and read some of the posts about this Downer Murder.
As with anything that happens in life, noone will ever really know exactly what went on to start or finish it except for the people involved. (the murdered and the murderer)

What has become too familiar is people from Queanbeyan getting the sh*ts about something and just thinking they can go and kill people.
Police are finally starting to investigate and catch (alleged) murderers but there is still too many unsolved over the years for my liking.

Making excuses for the (alleged) murderer is just a spiteful way to cause more suffering to the family/friends of the victims.

When and if found guilty (all) these people should be dealt a LIFE sentence with NO chance of EVER getting out.

Will they allow conjugal visits at the new prison/holiday home, I wonder?

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

It is weird how many people accused of murder suddenly amass a fan club.
In daily life these fans probably had nothing to do with the accused on a daily basis.
Probably never leant them money or helped in a crisis YET once accused of murder these fans come out of the woodwork and are their mates.

Emily obviously has a crush on Scott who had a crush on Julie. If the guy wasn’t in jail this would be Ems chance to make a move.

Be an interesting study for a psychologist. She must be like those loons who fall in love with serial killers and the like on death row in the US.

***blush***

***sigh***

There goes that Scott McDouche – what a dreamboat!

I’m pretty sure it’s not serious, though ….

It doesn’t really matter either way because it’s still a nasty thing to do.

He or she might get off on winding us up and creating a bit of a stir, but it will still be like a knife for the families of the victims.

And even if it were true then ‘Em’ should not rub the families’ noses in it.

Selfish and cruel.

Emily’s post kind of says ‘stalker’ to me.

go and get some counselling emily……ya weirdo

Actually BWK we love tabloid crap and want more!

Very weird Em. What is it you hope to achieve with this post.

Where you on “Law and Order” this week?

Beserk Keyboard Warrior10:01 am 25 Jan 09

Emily, is there not a way you can get the attention you obviously crave that doesn’t involve pi$$ing on the grave of murder victims?

You’re a bottom-feeding germ. Plain and simple.

This sort of tabloid crap doesn’t belong here.

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