Rugged computers looking for a home

fffq 11 February 2009 60

Morning Ladies and Gentlemen

I am a computer.  Pretty observant of me I know, but I am a very special computer.  

I was destined to go into the remote parts of Australia and work for 5 years without a problem. Sites where there is 50 degree heat and rolling dust in the middle of summer and other locations where the surrounding area is flooded out for 6 – 8 weeks of the year.  I was built to handle these conditions.   

The destiny of me and 79 of my brothers and sisters has been smashed by the bureaucratic bumbling of a government department.   In the wake of, dare I say, “incompetence”, the small Canberra based IT Company that purchased me with the expectation of delivering us to those communities is now faced with a serious problem.  

12 months ago that company was flying high, multimillion dollar contract on the horizon and lots of people in the company working toward one goal – the betterment of the remote aboriginal communities.   But isn’t 12 months a long time in business and here they are now, going into administration, letting staff go and the future looking pretty dismal.

I would like to find a decent home for my 79 siblings, myself and various other components that are the remains of an outstanding project.   Another aboriginal project plagued by bureaucratic ineptitude, lackadaisical incompetence and no sense of urgency except for the departments own importance.

The remote communities are the real losers in this whole circumstance but I would like to ensure that some of the loses are recovered for my company.   

Please purchase me and give me and my siblings a home.   I am worth $1500.00 Inc GST (Very close to cost price).  

[ED – For more details and to express an interest contact Roger Smith: Roger.Smith@paradigmit.net.au ]


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dexi dexi 11:29 am 12 Feb 09

What is the power consumption of the computer.
How has it been dust proofed?
How noisy are the fans?
What extra cooling is included?
Do they have TV out?
Has the chassis been modifies?

peterh peterh 10:25 am 12 Feb 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

If a business went and procured hardware without a purchase order or formal contract in place, then more fool them. Government depts change their minds all the time for a variety of reasons. Where I work it’s not unusual to spend several hundred thousand dollars responding to an RFT that gets pulled from market. Every couple of years we might spend a couple of million.

But we don’t go procuring hardware, software or services until the contracts are signed (or we at least have a formal letter of intent).

as per the standing offer link, the department signed in november 2007, 12 months after i was aware that the standing offer was awarded. regardless of when, they have had a full 12-months under the agreement to allow the OP to deliver the equipment, but have managed to cancel whilst under an agreement.

proofpositive proofpositive 10:30 pm 11 Feb 09

I-filed said :

Anyone have Burmese kittens for sale? :]

Hello there,

I just need to tell you that this is a very lovely pussy you have
gotten here and I am interested in buying it outrightly. For a quick
sale, I will pay you $700.00 for this pussy .Let me know if my
offer is accepted so that we can finalize this ASAP.

NB: Honestly, I do not know the actual worth of this pussy, If my
offer is not ok, Let me know so i can shoot up abit or bring it
down as the case maybe.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Nigel.

S4anta S4anta 10:28 pm 11 Feb 09

I believe basing a business purely on government procurement when both VY’s are hot.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 9:42 pm 11 Feb 09

If a business went and procured hardware without a purchase order or formal contract in place, then more fool them. Government depts change their minds all the time for a variety of reasons. Where I work it’s not unusual to spend several hundred thousand dollars responding to an RFT that gets pulled from market. Every couple of years we might spend a couple of million.

But we don’t go procuring hardware, software or services until the contracts are signed (or we at least have a formal letter of intent).

I-filed I-filed 9:21 pm 11 Feb 09

Felix the Cat said :

I didn’t know RA had changed to allclassifieds.com.au…..

Anyone have Burmese kittens for sale? :]

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 8:58 pm 11 Feb 09

I didn’t know RA had changed to allclassifieds.com.au…..

sepi sepi 8:54 pm 11 Feb 09

Questacon used to do Indigenous web games – they might be interested. Or AIATSIS next to the National Museum.

Danman Danman 8:19 pm 11 Feb 09

In a blatant plug for my brother in laws company, this is what I thought a Rugged Operations Computer would look like.

I-filed I-filed 7:54 pm 11 Feb 09

peterh said :

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

So are you saying DCITA/BCDE hasn’t actually given you any money for these PCs? They’re not encumbered by a funding agreement? No caveats over their disposal? You’re just free to sell them?

WMC, how did you know who it was?

Has to be the old DCITA.

fffq, why don’t you tout them to another department that is running Indig programs? Try FAHCSIA or DEWHA Indigenous arts …

sepi sepi 6:40 pm 11 Feb 09

wow – what a pity those communities won’t get their computers.

you could get sponsorship to send them there anyway i’m sure. just need to get a registered charity on board.

harvyk1 harvyk1 6:06 pm 11 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :

Wow, look at all the people who want to stand up and have a shot at a poor bloke trying to re-coup some of the money he has lost, I’m actually amazed at the attitudes here.

No, it’s about people like myself knowing the true value of PC kit, and knowing when some is being offered at a price that is too high. I’d hate someone like my parents to come on here and buy a piece of kit that they could get for half the price. It’s a matter of consumers looking out for consumers.

Unlike Harvey, I do feel a little sorry for the OP, regardless of schoolboy errors made. I can also understand wanting to make back the money that they have invested – but this should not be a the cost of non-tech savvy punters. Yes, the PCs did cost a certain amount last year. They don’t cost that much any more. Same situation the minute you drive a brand new car out of the showroom scenario.

Tyler has pretty much summed my feelings up. I guess I may have been a little harsh saying I have no sympathy for him. I have sympathy for the position he’s been put in to. Because yes even the best plans can go astray. That said, I don’t think highly of his attempt to offload his problem at inflated prices. I have no problems with the OP trying to offload excess equipment, but I’d hate to think that he was ripping people off in the process.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 5:38 pm 11 Feb 09

WMC, how did you know who it was?

I guessed it was the fallout of this.

peterh peterh 4:33 pm 11 Feb 09

oh, and i don’t sell to the public. I am working for a distie.

peterh peterh 4:33 pm 11 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :

re your parents buying the pc, mine bought a business pc about 6-months ago, not loaded to the hilt with the retail box cr@p

Yes, their Dell was packed with this c**p when taken out of the box. Was easily removed and the PC running sweet.

As for a pavilion boat anchor – my facial expressions reflect zero surprise.

Also Peter, while your theory about the Aussie Dollar is interesting, I believe if that was the situation, the Dells you see online would reflect this jump in price IMHO. I’m not being pointed about your comments, I just don’t agree with them 😉

ah, dell works in mysterious ways. they have different target systems for their teams, being made up of both a profit target, which will be achieved by the web team, and revenue targets for everyone else. The competitiveness of dell is a testament to the market. it isn’t cheaper to manufacture right now, in fact quite the opposite. Dell have simply lowered their profit margins.

Unfortunately, for everyone else, we cannot simply operate at 2-5%, we would be operating at a loss, once admin costings are taken out of the profit. (I don’t work for paradigm, but i do know their situation, they are one of my 180 clients in town)

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 4:00 pm 11 Feb 09

re your parents buying the pc, mine bought a business pc about 6-months ago, not loaded to the hilt with the retail box cr@p

Yes, their Dell was packed with this c**p when taken out of the box. Was easily removed and the PC running sweet.

As for a pavilion boat anchor – my facial expressions reflect zero surprise.

Also Peter, while your theory about the Aussie Dollar is interesting, I believe if that was the situation, the Dells you see online would reflect this jump in price IMHO. I’m not being pointed about your comments, I just don’t agree with them 😉

peterh peterh 3:32 pm 11 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :

Wow, look at all the people who want to stand up and have a shot at a poor bloke trying to re-coup some of the money he has lost, I’m actually amazed at the attitudes here.

No, it’s about people like myself knowing the true value of PC kit, and knowing when some is being offered at a price that is too high. I’d hate someone like my parents to come on here and buy a piece of kit that they could get for half the price. It’s a matter of consumers looking out for consumers.

Unlike Harvey, I do feel a little sorry for the OP, regardless of schoolboy errors made. I can also understand wanting to make back the money that they have invested – but this should not be a the cost of non-tech savvy punters. Yes, the PCs did cost a certain amount last year. They don’t cost that much any more. Same situation the minute you drive a brand new car out of the showroom scenario.

no tylers, with the current downturn and the aussie dollar backsliding, it is now more expensive for the same kit. re your parents buying the pc, mine bought a business pc about 6-months ago, not loaded to the hilt with the retail box cr@p, that if you delete the damn thing stops working. been there, have a pavilion boat anchor.

the pc’s would be good maybe for a smb outfit, especially if the stimulus package goes ahead. (oh, i hope that at least the business incentive does)

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 3:19 pm 11 Feb 09

Wow, look at all the people who want to stand up and have a shot at a poor bloke trying to re-coup some of the money he has lost, I’m actually amazed at the attitudes here.

No, it’s about people like myself knowing the true value of PC kit, and knowing when some is being offered at a price that is too high. I’d hate someone like my parents to come on here and buy a piece of kit that they could get for half the price. It’s a matter of consumers looking out for consumers.

Unlike Harvey, I do feel a little sorry for the OP, regardless of schoolboy errors made. I can also understand wanting to make back the money that they have invested – but this should not be a the cost of non-tech savvy punters. Yes, the PCs did cost a certain amount last year. They don’t cost that much any more. Same situation the minute you drive a brand new car out of the showroom scenario.

DaveR DaveR 2:57 pm 11 Feb 09

Boring.

Moving on. Oh, my Dell machine just crapped out again, hahahahaha.

You are right, HP do like to prostitute them selves out these days. I’m not going any further with that one.

proofpositive proofpositive 2:50 pm 11 Feb 09

DaveR said :

HP won’t sell them to you if you are not an authorised re-seller.

Hp equipment can be purchased through distributors Ingram Micro/Dicker Data. Hp are happy to prostitute themselves to anyone these days. However I’d be cautious about whether the carepacks (warranty) have been registered yet and if so you’ll need to read the Hp fine print with regard to transferablity.

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