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On crashes upon Southern Cross Drive

By Tony 24 July 2009 33

Yet another serious crash on Southern Cross drive, next to Kippax. It seems not a month goes by when this does not happen in this location, and it not supprising really when you see the attitude of drivers on this road, which has a sign posted speed limit of 60.

At least 1 in 5 people on this road speed, swerving in and out of traffic and tailgate trying to pass traffic actually doing the limit.

When will people learn, or more importantly, when will government actually start to enforce the law and really punish needlessly dangerous drivers which endanger the lives of innocent people? $120 fines are clearly not a deterrent, and I dont want these people on the road endangering the lives of my family and friends.

My question is to the people of Canberra. Am I the only one that feels this way? Are the penalties as soft as I think they are? Is it apparent to anyone else that very little is done enforce road rule? And why do you rarely see police road patrols?

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missalli 7:54 pm 30 Jul 09

Coming home from netball tonight, I was greeted by the flashing blue and reds attending yet another accident at the Florey dr intersection…Insurance companies must be loving the non/slow action from the government.

willo 4:00 pm 26 Jul 09

Thumper said :

Put a speed camera at the bottom of the hill. That will do the trick.

it would certainly help….whenever there is a camera van on the hill the traffic is far more settled and sensible….so a fixed camera may be a good idea….would probably do a roaring trade too…..

Deckard 10:41 am 26 Jul 09

gibbering said :

I’m thinking the person who was speeding is now going to be in a blind rage and once past you will both speed more and be less attentive increasing the risk to other road users even more. Best you can do is just get out of the way – maybe report to police or add to a record somewhere that can eventually be sent to a minister who has the power to change something.

No, I think a brake test would be more appropriate.

Do you seriously think that making a 60km/h road with a high accident rate an 80km/h road will make it safer?

Hells_Bells74 8:44 am 26 Jul 09

They should’ve fixed that road proper when they ripped the pool out.

Hells_Bells74 8:43 am 26 Jul 09

JC said :

ScrappyKat, it isn’t going to happen now, but on the orginal plans for Kippax, Florey Drive was mean to extend into the road that runs in front of the Kippax centre. I never understand why it was never built as the current arrangement of using Starke street doesn’t help with the congestion issue that often leads to these accidents.

Gosh that would have been sensible..

gibbering 8:16 am 26 Jul 09

Fix the road so that it can be 80. It appears to be arterial, so probably should be – especially with the new suburb going in.

ps. thinking about the psychology of people who try to enforce the speed limit themselves by sitting in the right lane at 60 next to another car doing 60 in the left…what do you think the outcome is going to be? I’m thinking the person who was speeding is now going to be in a blind rage and once past you will both speed more and be less attentive increasing the risk to other road users even more. Best you can do is just get out of the way – maybe report to police or add to a record somewhere that can eventually be sent to a minister who has the power to change something.

Thumper 8:08 pm 25 Jul 09

Put a speed camera at the bottom of the hill. That will do the trick.

JC 6:25 pm 25 Jul 09

ScrappyKat, it isn’t going to happen now, but on the orginal plans for Kippax, Florey Drive was mean to extend into the road that runs in front of the Kippax centre. I never understand why it was never built as the current arrangement of using Starke street doesn’t help with the congestion issue that often leads to these accidents.

ScrappyKat 1:21 pm 25 Jul 09

There is definately enough space to extend the dual carriage way down past Starke Street. A big round about could then go in as well.

The intersections down there are definately very slippery.

Genie 11:11 am 25 Jul 09

i guess you mean southern cross and kingsford smith? ginnenderra does not cross southern cross

Yes clearly thats what I meant… Lack of sleep will do that to you.

Ivan76 10:30 pm 24 Jul 09

At the very least the ACT government should put up an “accident zone” sign (like they did on the hill at Kingsford Smith dve) to at least advise that there is a problem, I have been seeing serious accidents there since 1993 usually “P” platers still getting used to driving get caught out creeping forward from Florey dve.

I almost had an accident there myself around 12 years ago when I first got my license & didnt know better.

Who would have thought after all these years that the same problem is still there..

willo 8:08 pm 24 Jul 09

Genie said :

I have to agree this whole street is a joke ! People zoom through the Southern Cross/Ginninderra Dr lights in both lanes in peak hour traffic not realising that quite often both lanes are stopped. From cars waiting to turn left into Starke St or piled up behind a bus letting passengers off and cars waiting to turn right into Latham. Further down at Florey Drive is even worse. Traffic lights at that intersection I fear would be worse… a roundabout in my opinion seems like a better option.

To whoever wrote this post I think your stats are a little off, 1 in 5 people speeding ?? Umm probably 4 in 5 people speed along here.. Including me. I wont deny that quite often I’m over the speed limit, but I’m usually traveling along the roads with light traffic which is also no excuse. I think the only answer to keep speed down to 60k’s an hour is to install those “slow zones” or speed humps. Those white bumpy lines could also prove helpful in slowing down traffic on the mini hill approaching the Florey Drive intersection heading towards Macgreggor.

Clearly the first few people who have commented on this thread dont live in the area, and are unaware how dangerous this street is.

i guess you mean southern cross and kingsford smith? ginnenderra does not cross southern cross

swamiOFswank 8:04 pm 24 Jul 09

I reckon that the houses on the Latham side of SCD are set far enough back from the road, that the speed limit should be at least 70. If SCD were in Sydney or Melbourne, with the dual carriageway, two lanes each situation, it would probably be 80.

People DO drive like they’ve been possessed by Brocky’s evil twin down SCD towards Kippax, but if you look at ’em they’re always driving old Bombadores, or stolen Hyundai Excel’s and are often wearing baseball caps. Young bogans driving like dickheads won’t take notice of the speed limit no matter what it’s posted at, and I bet if they put lights in at the Florey Drive intersection, the temptation to run the red will be too great for most of them to resist – being that it’s at the bottom of a hill and all.

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