$21 million to boost ACT workforce skills

You could continue previous good work and cut payroll tax by another $21 million too.

gooterz said :

$60 a person in the whole of the ACT. Seems a lot for skills training.

Sounds more like Joy is funding people to ‘study’ rather than work and then find jobs doing something else. Unless their is a requirement to go on and actually go into one of these mostly female dominated roles its a waste of money.

Shouldn’t we really be pushing men to take on some of these roles?

$21 million would also be a good start to a new area of business. How about some new farming or something?

Certificate 2’s aren’t long courses either. It sounds like a huge waste of money.
If 1000 do the course that’s 21 grand each.. (A uni degree price for a cert 2).

Exactly.

Great,

I urge interested readers to digest this article from the Sydney Morning Herald about how Registered Training Organisations are gaming the system against regular Aussies via paid commissions to Immigration Agents who profit by bringing in foreign workers – and the Governments woeful attempts at monitoring it:

smh.com.au/nsw/call-for-overhaul-of-457-visa-system-to-prevent-risk-of-corruption

This practice is particularly rife in Victoria – I know of one business who bought in 3000 from the sub continent. There’s at least 3000 less jobs for our future generations, and that’s one RTO! My bloods a boiling.

$60 a person in the whole of the ACT. Seems a lot for skills training.

Sounds more like Joy is funding people to ‘study’ rather than work and then find jobs doing something else. Unless their is a requirement to go on and actually go into one of these mostly female dominated roles its a waste of money.

Shouldn’t we really be pushing men to take on some of these roles?

$21 million would also be a good start to a new area of business. How about some new farming or something?

Certificate 2’s aren’t long courses either. It sounds like a huge waste of money.
If 1000 do the course that’s 21 grand each.. (A uni degree price for a cert 2).

tooltime said :

Correct me if I’m wrong please, but this Skilled Capital business is just replicating what CIT and a host of other RTO’s are doing, aren’t they?

If it is, WTF is the ACT government blowing ~$21million of the taxpayers hard earned on it?

I mean, what are they offering that’s meaningfully different?

Am I the only one who gets worked up about this government sanctioned wealth destruction, which further debt saddles the middle class?

It’s all about keeping CIT and others afloat and a lot of people are worked up about the way this government keeps propping up lost causes.
Want to bet a lot of this money finds its way to sponsorship of certain professional sporting clubs?

Correct me if I’m wrong please, but this Skilled Capital business is just replicating what CIT and a host of other RTO’s are doing, aren’t they?

If it is, WTF is the ACT government blowing ~$21million of the taxpayers hard earned on it?

I mean, what are they offering that’s meaningfully different?

Am I the only one who gets worked up about this government sanctioned wealth destruction, which further debt saddles the middle class?

Masquara said :

Maya123 said :

Masquara said :

There are no “disability support”, “childcare” and “aged care” skills shortages as such. Pay a wage that’s higher than working poor, and people will train themselves of their own volition. Train away, CIT and Joy Burch. You’ll just be training up people who need to tick boxes rather than be on the dole. No-one other than a handful of semi-supported spouses, or true altruists – is going to go on to work for $14-odd an hour.

After I retired, I worked for a time as a casual in childcare. I had no relevant qualifications, so was on the lowest wage. I was paid $19 an hour and then $20 an hour (after the government added an extra dollar for low paid workers). Not $14 an hour for an adult (maybe for a 15 year old). Low pay though still, and not something I would have considered for a career. It was also often boring.
I was considered for another job as a full time worker in childcare, at I think from memory $17 (before the extra dollar was added), so still more than $14 an hour. I took the casual position though, as it offered more flexibility.

Casual wage doesn’t compare to fulltime wage, Maya.

Yes, and you can read that the full time (adult) wage I was offered was $17, not $14. And you can see that is why I gave the full time $17 against the casual $19. I also said it was “Low pay though still, and not something I would have considered for a career.” So your point!

Maya123 said :

Masquara said :

There are no “disability support”, “childcare” and “aged care” skills shortages as such. Pay a wage that’s higher than working poor, and people will train themselves of their own volition. Train away, CIT and Joy Burch. You’ll just be training up people who need to tick boxes rather than be on the dole. No-one other than a handful of semi-supported spouses, or true altruists – is going to go on to work for $14-odd an hour.

After I retired, I worked for a time as a casual in childcare. I had no relevant qualifications, so was on the lowest wage. I was paid $19 an hour and then $20 an hour (after the government added an extra dollar for low paid workers). Not $14 an hour for an adult (maybe for a 15 year old). Low pay though still, and not something I would have considered for a career. It was also often boring.
I was considered for another job as a full time worker in childcare, at I think from memory $17 (before the extra dollar was added), so still more than $14 an hour. I took the casual position though, as it offered more flexibility.

Casual wage doesn’t compare to fulltime wage, Maya.

Masquara said :

There are no “disability support”, “childcare” and “aged care” skills shortages as such. Pay a wage that’s higher than working poor, and people will train themselves of their own volition. Train away, CIT and Joy Burch. You’ll just be training up people who need to tick boxes rather than be on the dole. No-one other than a handful of semi-supported spouses, or true altruists – is going to go on to work for $14-odd an hour.

After I retired, I worked for a time as a casual in childcare. I had no relevant qualifications, so was on the lowest wage. I was paid $19 an hour and then $20 an hour (after the government added an extra dollar for low paid workers). Not $14 an hour for an adult (maybe for a 15 year old). Low pay though still, and not something I would have considered for a career. It was also often boring.
I was considered for another job as a full time worker in childcare, at I think from memory $17 (before the extra dollar was added), so still more than $14 an hour. I took the casual position though, as it offered more flexibility.

There are no “disability support”, “childcare” and “aged care” skills shortages as such. Pay a wage that’s higher than working poor, and people will train themselves of their own volition. Train away, CIT and Joy Burch. You’ll just be training up people who need to tick boxes rather than be on the dole. No-one other than a handful of semi-supported spouses, or true altruists – is going to go on to work for $14-odd an hour.