21st Century Factionalism – Canberra Liberals Feuding Goes Digital

Oh purlllease! Can’t we stop this nonsense. We all know the identity of the maker of all the fb pages, as well as commenting under the monikers of kingslynn and powderedwig. This is truly mad behaviour, far from real commentary. No Liberals, from the right to the left, support you. Go get help! Some of us are interested in rational debate, a meeting of ideas, policy arguments and so on. Obviously you’re not. Just interested in damaging everyone to feed some neurotic need to be important. I have only one response to you – go away.

Thetruthofitall said :

PowderedWhig said :

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Like you know who the New Menzies Group are then?

I noticed that about Police…odd. Something about hacking the Old Menzies Group email. I did have to laugh at the link to the AFP website from the Oldies, like really? Who does that? My understanding was the servers had to be in Australia for Police to do much about that anyways really. It is sort of like downloading copied movies, legal loop hole.

Whoever these New Menzies Groupers are they interest me. If the Libs have sicked the AFP onto them they must be serious business or completely deranged as Honest_observer thinks.

But you’re not a lawyer. You don’t understand the law, clearly. It is illegal to hack emails.

No, I am not a lawyer but I do agree it is illegal to ‘hack’ emails – i.e. gain unauthorised access without a password.

I just think it is funny you are clearly so upset about it and all you can evidently do in response is post a stream of nonsensical posts about cat ladies and fish.

Thetruthofitall said :

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

Haha brilliant. And yes, it’s now confirmed that the person behind all of these pages is one and the same. It doesn’t take too much brain power to work out who it is…

Cat lady (or Cat man as the case may be) antics here. Sad really.

Rant, much?

PowderedWhig said :

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Like you know who the New Menzies Group are then?

I noticed that about Police…odd. Something about hacking the Old Menzies Group email. I did have to laugh at the link to the AFP website from the Oldies, like really? Who does that? My understanding was the servers had to be in Australia for Police to do much about that anyways really. It is sort of like downloading copied movies, legal loop hole.

Whoever these New Menzies Groupers are they interest me. If the Libs have sicked the AFP onto them they must be serious business or completely deranged as Honest_observer thinks.

But you’re not a lawyer. You don’t understand the law, clearly. It is illegal to hack emails.

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Something Fishy indeed.

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

Haha brilliant. And yes, it’s now confirmed that the person behind all of these pages is one and the same. It doesn’t take too much brain power to work out who it is…

Cat lady (or Cat man as the case may be) antics here. Sad really.

Does anyone know who owns the menzies, kaine and Fightback facebook pages? Who started them and maintains them??? Well I do!

It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the its actually the same person!

I suspect I’ll have responses (probably contradicting each other) from the likes of PowderedWhig and KingsLynn (also the same person)

My hat goes off to this person – it takes time and dedication to maintain so many different personalities. But then I think how sad this person really is.

Anyway, I look forward to reading the various responses (from the one person).

No no it’s there they did quote the source…. in very small print.

My bad.

I think I see the point about having a cold, and resting now. Sorry folks! The picture of Menzies must have overwhelmed me.

If I’m lucky the moderators will shake their heads and wipe these last messages of mine right out, noticing I’ve tripped over myself like this. Sigh! Should never have gone near any of it…

Blast! I attributed that line there to Menzies.
Correction. It belongs to John Warhurst, SMH! Apologies to him as well as Menzies memory.

It looked like a Menzies quote on Menzies Libs facebook page. They’re not attributing these quotes at all they’re just sticking it next to their holy icon. I only looked it up when I realised subsequent quotes (also left unsourced) clearly didn’t seem to belong to him.

Ripped off!!

“The system breaks down when the larger faction slavishly rewards mediocrity when the smaller faction has put forward a candidate of clearly greater ability.” -Menzies.

Hmm… lots of things come to mind there on various levels and parties in recent history.

I’ll say one thing about Menzies, at least he didn’t try and snob off Canberra as some later leaders did. He embraced and promoted it. I expect that adds to his appeal as a hero for some local Libs today.

PowderedWhig said :

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Is Menzies a person or a group or both?

I find it hard to believe this is just one person playing around with 7 different pages. You are saying this Menzies created the new pages?

Menzies doesn’t seem to like Zed much anyways but he does appear to have a thing for Pogos.

So assume Menzies probably wrote this too then? Where does Gary Kent come in?

Is this a wind up? Where did you find the motivation to wade through that a long post concerning local Libs, their schisms, and their infighting, and not know who Menzies was?

Um, yeah Robert Menzies…I meant who are these Menzies Groupers behind the pages, not who was Menzies haha.

Honest_observer thinks we have a nutter on our hands. I didn’t see much of that anywhere, and the references to ‘hacking’ seemed a bit timid…sounds more like school yard antics.

I’ll put that misunderstanding down to my head cold.

Accepted. 🙂

Doh.
:/

I’m still going to talk to the statue.

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Is Menzies a person or a group or both?

I find it hard to believe this is just one person playing around with 7 different pages. You are saying this Menzies created the new pages?

Menzies doesn’t seem to like Zed much anyways but he does appear to have a thing for Pogos.

So assume Menzies probably wrote this too then? Where does Gary Kent come in?

Is this a wind up? Where did you find the motivation to wade through that a long post concerning local Libs, their schisms, and their infighting, and not know who Menzies was?

Hah!!

(Well you know, there’s the statue by the lake, maybe it’s more than just a statue, dun dun daaah)

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Like you know who the New Menzies Group are then?

I noticed that about Police…odd. Something about hacking the Old Menzies Group email. I did have to laugh at the link to the AFP website from the Oldies, like really? Who does that? My understanding was the servers had to be in Australia for Police to do much about that anyways really. It is sort of like downloading copied movies, legal loop hole.

Whoever these New Menzies Groupers are they interest me. If the Libs have sicked the AFP onto them they must be serious business or completely deranged as Honest_observer thinks.

PowderedWhig said :

Tetranitrate said :

The Australian Liberal Students Federation is the national liberal students body, it’s go nothing to do with this spat really.

I find it sad at this stuff is still going on, many of the same people just in different positions (a few finally out of the closet), factions have evolved and split and whatnot but it’s still the same level of ridiculous infighting that was going on when I was at uni.

http://the-riotact.com/kiddie-libs-in-forgery-or-foolery/7161

http://the-riotact.com/young-libs-take-control/7546

http://the-riotact.com/anu-liberal-club-up-to-old-games/11409

So the New Menzies Group has outed the Old Young Liberals and that is why Honest_observer is upset?

Very confused….

Nah, from stuff I’ve read on here I think that the old right wingers in the Liberal Clubs and young liberals, who crushed all the moderates back when I was involved ‘split’ at some point, had some silly feud, then there’s been some kind massive blow-up over the pre-selection mess, I don’t know. Not involved, haven’t been for years thank goodness. I just find it sad that the same thing is still going on, and while alliances have shifted and people have moved around, moved up, the endless infighting remains.

Gary Kent, Sesselja and Coe were all more or less still on the same page at the time of those stories.
It’s strange to see Kent’s supporters as ‘lefties’ though, because it was while he was president that moderates for the most part were driven out of the party, particularly younger folk.

I suppose they actual ideological right wingers were people like Coe, Zed and his ustaše stacks and particular people in the liberal club and young liberals, more than anything folks like Gary Kent just seemed to like being in charge for its own sake rather than to push any particular agenda.

I think Honest_observer is probably a uni student, maybe affiliated with the splitters, maybe a labor kid stirring the pot. This kind of stuff is kind of amusing… until you realize that it’s a major reason behind Canberra having had a Labor government for 13 years with no end in sight.

That the government is basically untouchable thanks to the dysfunction within the liberal party and fully cognizant of the fact really isn’t a good thing for Canberrans.

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

The names are from Wikipedia, nick-names of 40’s gangsters. Ties in with the title of the folder, The Outfit.

I don’t think the New Menzies Group likes the Old Young Liberals any more than liking Zed.

Haha, this is so actually quite funny.

Tetranitrate said :

The Australian Liberal Students Federation is the national liberal students body, it’s go nothing to do with this spat really.

I find it sad at this stuff is still going on, many of the same people just in different positions (a few finally out of the closet), factions have evolved and split and whatnot but it’s still the same level of ridiculous infighting that was going on when I was at uni.

http://the-riotact.com/kiddie-libs-in-forgery-or-foolery/7161

http://the-riotact.com/young-libs-take-control/7546

http://the-riotact.com/anu-liberal-club-up-to-old-games/11409

So the New Menzies Group has outed the Old Young Liberals and that is why Honest_observer is upset?

Very confused….

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Is Menzies a person or a group or both?

I find it hard to believe this is just one person playing around with 7 different pages. You are saying this Menzies created the new pages?

Menzies doesn’t seem to like Zed much anyways but he does appear to have a thing for Pogos.

So assume Menzies probably wrote this too then? Where does Gary Kent come in?

Is this a wind up? Where did you find the motivation to wade through that a long post concerning local Libs, their schisms, and their infighting, and not know who Menzies was?

Um, yeah Robert Menzies…I meant who are these Menzies Groupers behind the pages, not who was Menzies haha.

Honest_observer thinks we have a nutter on our hands. I didn’t see much of that anywhere, and the references to ‘hacking’ seemed a bit timid…sounds more like school yard antics.

I’ll put that misunderstanding down to my head cold.

Accepted. 🙂

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

Well, they were created one day apart but I accept your point – coincidence, much? But this isn’t just one person as you seem to think as all these new pages combined have around 200 likes all up, the Canberra Libs only 100 more than that themselves (I checked). Plus there are comments on the Menzies page at least, unless that is just a crazy person talking with themselves?

I thought the names were pretty funny actually, don’t understand the significance of “The Artichoke King” but still amusing.

Being honest though, if someone put ridiculous photos of me on the net I’d probably be a bit cranky too.

PowderedWhig said :

Postalgeek said :

PowderedWhig said :

Is Menzies a person or a group or both?

I find it hard to believe this is just one person playing around with 7 different pages. You are saying this Menzies created the new pages?

Menzies doesn’t seem to like Zed much anyways but he does appear to have a thing for Pogos.

So assume Menzies probably wrote this too then? Where does Gary Kent come in?

Is this a wind up? Where did you find the motivation to wade through that a long post concerning local Libs, their schisms, and their infighting, and not know who Menzies was?

Um, yeah Robert Menzies…I meant who are these Menzies Groupers behind the pages, not who was Menzies haha.

Honest_observer thinks we have a nutter on our hands. I didn’t see much of that anywhere, and the references to ‘hacking’ seemed a bit timid…sounds more like school yard antics.

I’ll put that misunderstanding down to my head cold.