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21st Century Factionalism – Canberra Liberals Feuding Goes Digital

By KingsLynn 19 May 2014 27

Perhaps one of the more popular topics of discussion amongst local political insiders at present is the emergence of a raft of Facebook Fan Pages claiming to support the Canberra Liberals sub-grouping, the Menzies Group.

For those not already familiar with the internal workings of the local Liberal Party, the Menzies Group is a rebel band of Canberra Liberals formed in the wake of the bitter pre-selection stoush between Gary Humphries and Zed Seselja last year.

Consisting of remnants of the so-called ‘Disaffected Rump’, the group was established by Humphries along with loyalist and former party president, Gary Kent, in order to challenge the growing dominance of the Conservative faction within the party who had been responsible for toppling Humphries.

Humphries himself had long been recognised as a leading figure of the Moderate arm of the Canberra Liberal Party. Since losing pre-selection for the top Senate spot on his party’s ticket, Humphries has continued to openly criticise his local branch for being too conservative on social policies and for allowing the gang of Young Libs loyal to Zed to effectively wreck the joint.

Fellow Menzies Group founder and former party president, Gary Kent, who was expelled from the party shortly after the Federal Election in 2013 for his outspoken comments during the pre-selection at the beginning of the year, is widely considered to have been targeted by the Seselja-controlled Management Committee due to his continual agitation over perceived failings of corporate governance by the Conservative Zed faction. After his expulsion Kent was highly critical when asked for his opinion on the party’s electoral prospects at the 2016 election.

Shortly after Kent’s expulsion towards the end of 2013 the youth wing of the party also fractured along the Humphries/Seselja divide, when a break-away group of ANU students loyal to Kent and Humphries left the established ANU Liberal Club to form their own campus society, the ANU Progressive Liberal Students’ Association (APLSA).

The momentum generated on campus by this new society is reported to have alarmed the Seselja-controlled Management Committee so greatly that steps were undertaken immediately to block any student from the ANU suspected to be associated with the APLSA from joining the Canberra Liberals so as to ensure these young Menzians would not disrupt Pax Seselja.

Frustration over the unreasonable delays processing these new signups led to division in the new society itself when sections of the APLSA Executive more closely aligned with Humphries failed to back a senior club member aligned with Kent during an internal dispute with the Young Libs loyal to Zed.

It is widely held in party circles that the young Kentsmen who left the society over this spat are behind the formation of the new suite of Menzies Group Fan Pages that have appeared this week.

Those pages associated with this new advent in Liberal factional brawling include;

The Menzies Group

Fightback – ACT Liberal Students Coalition

Canberra Liberals Support Page

The Kaine Report

Those established Liberal Party Facebook Fan Pages opposing the new entities appear to be;

ANU Progressive Liberal Students’ Association

ANU Liberal Club

Australian Liberal Students Federation

Recent news from the Kaine Report Fan Page, sympathetic to the Kent aligned Menzies Group Fan Page, indicates this web-based conflict between Kent and Humphries supporters appears to have spread to wrangling over ownership of the “official” Menzies Group email address.

This story can only get more interesting!

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Wherearetherealliberals 6:00 pm 20 May 14

Oh purlllease! Can’t we stop this nonsense. We all know the identity of the maker of all the fb pages, as well as commenting under the monikers of kingslynn and powderedwig. This is truly mad behaviour, far from real commentary. No Liberals, from the right to the left, support you. Go get help! Some of us are interested in rational debate, a meeting of ideas, policy arguments and so on. Obviously you’re not. Just interested in damaging everyone to feed some neurotic need to be important. I have only one response to you – go away.

PowderedWhig 4:37 pm 20 May 14

Thetruthofitall said :

PowderedWhig said :

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Like you know who the New Menzies Group are then?

I noticed that about Police…odd. Something about hacking the Old Menzies Group email. I did have to laugh at the link to the AFP website from the Oldies, like really? Who does that? My understanding was the servers had to be in Australia for Police to do much about that anyways really. It is sort of like downloading copied movies, legal loop hole.

Whoever these New Menzies Groupers are they interest me. If the Libs have sicked the AFP onto them they must be serious business or completely deranged as Honest_observer thinks.

But you’re not a lawyer. You don’t understand the law, clearly. It is illegal to hack emails.

No, I am not a lawyer but I do agree it is illegal to ‘hack’ emails – i.e. gain unauthorised access without a password.

I just think it is funny you are clearly so upset about it and all you can evidently do in response is post a stream of nonsensical posts about cat ladies and fish.

PowderedWhig 4:32 pm 20 May 14

Thetruthofitall said :

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

Haha brilliant. And yes, it’s now confirmed that the person behind all of these pages is one and the same. It doesn’t take too much brain power to work out who it is…

Cat lady (or Cat man as the case may be) antics here. Sad really.

Rant, much?

Thetruthofitall 3:50 pm 20 May 14

PowderedWhig said :

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Like you know who the New Menzies Group are then?

I noticed that about Police…odd. Something about hacking the Old Menzies Group email. I did have to laugh at the link to the AFP website from the Oldies, like really? Who does that? My understanding was the servers had to be in Australia for Police to do much about that anyways really. It is sort of like downloading copied movies, legal loop hole.

Whoever these New Menzies Groupers are they interest me. If the Libs have sicked the AFP onto them they must be serious business or completely deranged as Honest_observer thinks.

But you’re not a lawyer. You don’t understand the law, clearly. It is illegal to hack emails.

Thetruthofitall 3:43 pm 20 May 14

Honest_observer said :

Just saying something smells a tad Fishy about it. Though that Kaine Report pages seems to indicate that a member of the Menzies group pre split has been reported to the police. I’m not annoyed at all. Anything with the local Laboral Party killing itself is always funny.

Something Fishy indeed.

Thetruthofitall 3:43 pm 20 May 14

Honest_observer said :

Have a look at that Fightback and Menzies group pages. Both pages were made the same day and both have posted the photos of a number of party members with the worlds strangest names attached. Pretty sure that stuff like that is up their with talking to yourself and colleting a million cats in the slightly mad scale.

Haha brilliant. And yes, it’s now confirmed that the person behind all of these pages is one and the same. It doesn’t take too much brain power to work out who it is…

Cat lady (or Cat man as the case may be) antics here. Sad really.

Thetruthofitall 3:35 pm 20 May 14

Does anyone know who owns the menzies, kaine and Fightback facebook pages? Who started them and maintains them??? Well I do!

It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the its actually the same person!

I suspect I’ll have responses (probably contradicting each other) from the likes of PowderedWhig and KingsLynn (also the same person)

My hat goes off to this person – it takes time and dedication to maintain so many different personalities. But then I think how sad this person really is.

Anyway, I look forward to reading the various responses (from the one person).

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