8 July 2011

2nd National Day of Action to End Live Export - Canberra Rally

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live export protest

Join us in Canberra to support the second National Day of Action to End Live Export. This second rally is in response to the ban on live exports to Indonesia which has been just been lifted by the Federal Government.

Rallies are being held across the nation, and we need to be louder and bigger than before!

Please bring banners, placards, friends and family members, and loud voices!

Confirmed speakers: Caroline Le Couteur (ACT Greens), Steve Garlick (President of the Animal Justice Party)

30 July • 12:00pm

The lawns of Parliament House

Details on Facebook.

[ED – but will there be attractive women dripping in bloodlike substances a’la last night’s ABC footage of the protest at Julia Gillard’s electoral office?]

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Pity it wasn’t a week later on the 22nd…
http://www.beefcentral.com/news/article/423

I take it all the anti export brigade are vegetarian? You may be interested to know that IGA and other supermarkets are now selling Linda McFarty products. Or you may just be hypocrites.

OK, 14 August it is for the Canberra rally. This is run by Animals Australia and RSPCA, not extremist groups. In fact on the info page http://banliveexport.com/rally/?m it says “family friendly”.

So if you want to stand up against this, this is the place to do it.

The main campaign, run by Animals Australia, the RSPCA and Get Up, is holding rallies in the capitals (including Canberra) on, from memory, the 14th of August. The vote in parliament on the bills to stop live export is happening on 18th August, hence the timing.

They’re starting to gear up the word-spreading now. It will be mainstream, I hope, not people pouring blood around the place. Animals Australia are the ones who got the footage we saw on Four Corners, and they’ve teamed up with the other two organisations to run this campaign.

The big problem is, the government has agreed to resume exports to Indonesia, and the Indonesians do not have to stun the cattle before cutting their throats. They’ll be fully conscious. Everything we saw on Four Corners will continue happening. The government thinks we’ve all forgotten. Prove them wrong.

Martlark said :

Mr Evil said :

…that I do not support the live export of any Australian animals to any other country….

How can where an animal is slaughtered have any effect on it’s welfare? As long as it is treated humanely all along the way, the colour of the workers skin, their religion or the design of their flag should not matter.

Bugger, you’ve seen right through me. Okay, I admit it: I hate wogs, chockos, coral stompers, gypos, dagos, spicks, darkies and Scientologists – and that’s my sole reason for wanting live exports halted.

Geez…….

Anyway, I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but unfortunately animals exported from Australia live aren’t flown first or business class with QANTAS to their destination. They travel on ships that don’t always have the most humane conditions onboard either – in fact, many of these ships make a 5 hour trip in the back of a cattle/sheep truck in Summer look good for animal welfare.

Mr Evil said :

…that I do not support the live export of any Australian animals to any other country….

How can where an animal is slaughtered have any effect on it’s welfare? As long as it is treated humanely all along the way, the colour of the workers skin, their religion or the design of their flag should not matter.

GardeningGirl2:06 pm 31 Jul 11

What Mr Evil said #20
+1

Poor turnout? For me, as I said before, I don’t want to associate myself with either the street theatre mob or the vegan mob. Not the first time this average middle-aged concerned citizen has been discouraged from standing up for a valid issue because of the over-the-top extremist rent-a-crowd hoopla.

I have been avoiding commenting on this very emotive issue, but feel I have to come out and say that I do not support the live export of any Australian animals to any other country.

I agree that unfortunately this issue has been hijacked by some of the lunatic fringe groups on both sides of the debate (Bob Katter, anyone?), but I cannot for the life of me understand how some people can stand back and support this cruel and barbaric trade in the name of the almighty dollar. The live export industry has been aware of major problems with the handling of Australian livestock in several countries for nearly 10 years now, but has done sweet FA to resolve the issues, and then they start bleating when they are hammered by the Govt because of their own inaction! If that isn’t a fine example of an industry driven by greed and/or total incompetence, then I don’t know what it is.

In my opinion, certain sectors of the farming lobby hold far too much sway in this country, and it’s about time they were pulled into line, especially when they constantly complain that the Govt doesn’t do enough to support them. Funny thing is, that in this day and age, a large number of farms in Australia are now either owned by large offshore entities or Australian absentee owners who have never been on a farm, but are more than happy to accept as much support from the taxpayer as is possible.

Personally, I’d rather see AusAid money spent on building coolstores in Indonesia, and Australian processed meat exported to them that way. A much better outcome for the animals, and also a hell of a lot better for Australian workers.

And no, I am not a hippie, vegetarian or vegan – just a meat-eater who cares about the animal’s welfare when it comes to how they die so that I may enjoy a steak or roast.

A Noisy Noise Annoys An Oyster5:48 pm 30 Jul 11

The turnout at the rallies was extremely poor and the organiser is blaming the hacking of their Facebook page which had the wrong date and several derogatory comments about her (of course it was a her).

I really don’t think the poor turnout can be blamed on Facebook. The more credible reason is that the cause does not have public support, and most people have simply moved on from the 15 minutes of fame the animal libbers and their cause had two months ago.

Kalfour said :

GardeningGirl said :

Apologies, I’m not sure how I put my added comment in as a quotation.

Make sure that your comment is after this “

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I didn’t really think that through. 😛
Make sure that your comment is after the “open bracket forward slash quote close bracket”.

GardeningGirl said :

Apologies, I’m not sure how I put my added comment in as a quotation.

Make sure that your comment is after this ”
“.

neanderthalsis said :

poetix said :

Nice to see someone doing something for idealistic reasons (if that makes sense) rather than self interest. Someone has to put welfare before profits.

And what about the jobs of the graziers, the Aboriginal cattlemen, the truck drivers and the dock workers? One would think that sustainable employment outcomes in regional communities was an idealistic reason for resuming the trade.

You know what would be great for the Aussie workers? If we had our own abattoirs. If we not only grew our own beef/lamb/whatever, but we also paid workers to do the dirty deed of slaughter and then shipped the carcasses off while frozen.
There’s no excuse for sending live cattle overseas, even when they don’t get brutally tortured. They’re kept in cramped, filthy conditions, many get seasick, and quite a few die in the journey.
What’s wrong with saying that we should only export meat if it’s killed on Aussie soil? It will actually create MORE jobs for Aussie workers, and will ensure that Australians are actually in control of the treatment of our own animals.

I agree that the governments choice to ban outright was silly. Not exactly a glowing moment of forethought. But I would have been much angrier if they had done nothing at all.

For everyone who seems to think that this cause is only for pathetic saps; have you actually WATCHED the videos? Here’s a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNA-dwGeexw

Which part of that do you think is acceptable?

GardeningGirl12:56 pm 30 Jul 11

Apologies, I’m not sure how I put my added comment in as a quotation.

GardeningGirl12:54 pm 30 Jul 11

EvanJames said :

The rallies are because the government has given up on compelling the various exporters to ensure that the animals and killed humanely. we all saw what had been happening for years on Four Corners a month back. This is not isolated to Indonesia, it’s been discovered again and again… Egypt and Kuwait not so long ago. So the people are demanding that the government simply ensure that the animals are treated in the way we expect, that they’re stunned before slaughter and not torn apart alive.

It’s not hippies, it’s not extremists, it’s normal people who give a damn. It’s all related to all animal welfare, like battery chickens, sow stalls, feed lots, puppy mills … any of this stuff feeds the bigger whole. But what we saw on Four Corners should have sickened any reasonable person.

The girl pouring blood on herself was acting out what we saw of how the cows were killed in Indonesia… I guess it’s street theatre. Not my cup of tea but it does get media attention.

imarty said :

BS. Your agenda is to stop meat consumption full stop.[/q

I was appalled by the Four Corners story and as far as I’m concerned the people who make a profit out of the trade had plenty of time to ensure adequate standards were met before the media spotlight was turned on what was happening. I would prefer to see live exports banned but at the very least Australia should enforce certain requirements for the animals sent to other countries.
Unfortunately I don’t want to associate myself with either the street theatre mob or the vegan mob. Not the first time this average middle-aged concerned citizen has been discouraged from standing up for a valid issue because of the over-the-top extremist rent-a-crowd hoopla.

Maybe you should go up north and face the people whose industry (and lives) you want to close down.

It is so easy to protest anything a bit yukky from the comfort of one’s own inner city life.

Canberrateacher5:49 pm 29 Jul 11

****Please note*****
The date has changed. Please join us Sun Aug 14 at Parliament House. 12pm. There is no rally scheduled for tomorrow (July 30).

New Facebook details below:

https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=229903807042536

neanderthalsis9:26 am 11 Jul 11

poetix said :

Nice to see someone doing something for idealistic reasons (if that makes sense) rather than self interest. Someone has to put welfare before profits.

And what about the jobs of the graziers, the Aboriginal cattlemen, the truck drivers and the dock workers? One would think that sustainable employment outcomes in regional communities was an idealistic reason for resuming the trade.

Nice to see someone doing something for idealistic reasons (if that makes sense) rather than self interest. Someone has to put welfare before profits.

neanderthalsis1:02 pm 09 Jul 11

Canberrateacher said :

No, the rally is asking for a complete ban. We don’t want stunning, we don’t want ‘improved welfare conditions’ – we don’t want live exports full stop.

Is it not rather short sighted to call for a blanket ban when those involved in the trade have committed to improving slaughter processes and animal welfare? The live exports industry, both for cattle and sheep will be very closely watch by the media looking for a repeat of the 4Corners treatment so it would be counter productive for those involved in the trade not to make significant changes to their processes.

Methinks that there is a tendency for these event to be hijacked by PETA and the militant vegan crowd with a much broader “no meat under any circumstances” agenda.

PS, I think that the photo needs a caption: Libra Fleur Ultra – for those heavy flow days…

BS. Your agenda is to stop meat consumption full stop.

Canberrateacher11:49 pm 08 Jul 11

No, the rally is asking for a complete ban. We don’t want stunning, we don’t want ‘improved welfare conditions’ – we don’t want live exports full stop.

EvanJames said :

The rallies are because the government has given up on compelling the various exporters to ensure that the animals and killed humanely. we all saw what had been happening for years on Four Corners a month back. This is not isolated to Indonesia, it’s been discovered again and again… Egypt and Kuwait not so long ago. So the people are demanding that the government simply ensure that the animals are treated in the way we expect, that they’re stunned before slaughter and not torn apart alive.

It’s not hippies, it’s not extremists, it’s normal people who give a damn. It’s all related to all animal welfare, like battery chickens, sow stalls, feed lots, puppy mills … any of this stuff feeds the bigger whole. But what we saw on Four Corners should have sickened any reasonable person.

The girl pouring blood on herself was acting out what we saw of how the cows were killed in Indonesia… I guess it’s street theatre. Not my cup of tea but it does get media attention.

Why is it called “Rally to Ban Live Export” then?

Why isnt it called “Rally to Improve the Process of Live Import”? Won’t get the headlines?

The rallies are because the government has given up on compelling the various exporters to ensure that the animals and killed humanely. we all saw what had been happening for years on Four Corners a month back. This is not isolated to Indonesia, it’s been discovered again and again… Egypt and Kuwait not so long ago. So the people are demanding that the government simply ensure that the animals are treated in the way we expect, that they’re stunned before slaughter and not torn apart alive.

It’s not hippies, it’s not extremists, it’s normal people who give a damn. It’s all related to all animal welfare, like battery chickens, sow stalls, feed lots, puppy mills … any of this stuff feeds the bigger whole. But what we saw on Four Corners should have sickened any reasonable person.

The girl pouring blood on herself was acting out what we saw of how the cows were killed in Indonesia… I guess it’s street theatre. Not my cup of tea but it does get media attention.

neanderthalsis said :

Why would I want to rally to put an end to an industry that is one of our major exporterss and employer of Indigenous people in remote northern communities? Yes, the treatment of the beasts was less than ideal, but with a few process changes and monitoring, the problem can be fixed.

Why not protest against something meaningful, like getting a ban on sow stalls.

x elenventybillion!!!!!

Ugh. Hippies up to their usual tricks. Perhaps they should spend some time looking into the issue, and they’ll see the thousands of cattle dying of hunger and starvation as they are stranded as a result of knee jerk policy, before they go and bathe themselves in blood.

neanderthalsis9:57 am 08 Jul 11

Why would I want to rally to put an end to an industry that is one of our major exporterss and employer of Indigenous people in remote northern communities? Yes, the treatment of the beasts was less than ideal, but with a few process changes and monitoring, the problem can be fixed.

Why not protest against something meaningful, like getting a ban on sow stalls.

Will they have a sausage sizzle?

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