10 January 2011

3 more ALDIs

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Good news for the bargain hunters with His Chiefliness (and lord high commander of retail), Jon Stanhope, decreeing three new ALDI stores for the Canberra periphery:

Supermarket retailer ALDI is set to increase its presence in Canberra after the ACT Government gave in-principle support to the direct sale of three sites to the discount chain.

Chief Minister Jon Stanhope said the entry of ALDI into group centres in Kaleen, Wanniassa and Chisholm would lead to more choice, convenience and value for money for Canberrans.

While the sale and details of the sites were subject to community consultation, Mr Stanhope said he expected the response from Canberrans to be positive.

The more big cheap cans of belgian beer the merrier!

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daveisbludging11:22 am 11 Feb 15

Zombie thread.

What ever happened to the Kaleen Aldi?

screaming banshee8:29 pm 11 Jan 11

Just to clarify a couple of things
– Value for money doesn’t mean cheap
– Cheap doesn’t mean value for money
– Not everyone is trying to get rich in life, some of us are just looking to enjoy all aspects of our lives
– Meat comes from a Butcher
– Fruit & Veg come from the farmer’s market
– Bread comes from a Bakery
– Coles and Woolworths don’t get my grocery money

Kerryhemsley9:03 am 11 Jan 11

2604 said :

screaming banshee said :

My name is screaming danger banshee and I stand for:

Quality over quantity
Incidentally, as a former Belconnenite, I find it highly amusing that someone who fancies herself as being “elite” and too good to shop at Aldi appears to live in Kaleen of all places. My recollections of Kaleen circa 2005 are of tired ex-govies stretched out along endlessly looping, go-nowhere crescents. Here’s hoping your strategy of getting rich by paying unnecessarily high grocery prices enables you to get out of there and into a suburb more suited to your high social standing.

2604 – in recent weeks you have provided us with your negative perceptions of both the inner north and now Belconnen/Kaleen.

So where is your perfect suburb? Gods country is it? Or are you just unhappy with
your lot in life and lashing out makes you feel better?

Reprobate said :

Meh. For Erindale, there’s already an Aldi just 3km down the road (though I appreciate Jon would not even know how to get to get to Tuggers let alone what’s down there), so it seems a bit of a token measure (no surprises there). And on the other side of Wanniassa is a Supabarn; clearly even having one of his preferred “battling” local non-majors in the vicinity of Woolies at Erindale isn’t making a difference now. Wouldn’t Aldi cannabalise sales from the local Supabarn as well, leading to less sales = less profit = higher prices or less service?

What is Stanhope’s populist vendetta against Coles and Woolies about anyway? I can’t imagine him saying “Canberrans want more choice than just Labor or Liberal, so we’re not going to allow them any new candiates in the next election and we will help smaller parties win seats”…

According to the CT, the site they have agreed to sell to Aldi for the Wanniassa store is the one with the existing Supabarn, not at Erindale with the Woolworths. How they’re going to fit a 1000m2+ supermarket on the site is beyond me, they must plan on building on the carpark which will leave next to none left for people to actually shop there.

What is more ludicrous is Stanhopeless’ obsession with Aldi, when it has been shown that it has done nothing to reduce prices in the supermarket. All evidence to date is that an opening at Aldi reduces prices for a few weeks until the novelty runs out and prices return to equilibrium.

Aldi does not and will not gain a significant market share in Australia as they simply do not compete in the same market as Woolies and Coles. A small portion of people who do not care about product range, brands, choice and quality will shop at Aldi for the cheap prices, the rest of us who enjoy having a range of products will continue to shop where this is offered at reasonable prices – Woolies and Coles.

Stanhope needs to pull his head out of his ass and come up with a realistic policy for supermarkets, rather than just creating an oversupply of supermarkets in a misguided attempt to create competition.

koalathebear8:46 pm 10 Jan 11

“If I cant afford to have the best, then I’m prepared to go without. I guess that makes me elitist….well who doesn’t want to be elite.”

Existing under the rather deluded misapprehension that higher priced items equate better quality is hardly a mark of elitism or being cultured. It smacks more of prejudice … It’s totally fine to say that you one does not want to shop at Aldi just because one does not want to do so (it’s each person’s choice after all), but to dismiss all the products without having tried them and to dismiss the customers as bogans is somewhat narrow-minded and more than a little ill-bred …

We selectively shop – a bit at Coles and Woolies, a lot at Aldi and sometimes at SupaBarn or the local IGA depending on convenience. Apart from a few products that I prefer from either Coles or Woollies, I’m happy to do most of my shopping at Aldi because I’ve tried a lot of the products and I don’t see the point in paying more for what is essentially the same thing simply because of branding. There are a few items I’m not a huge fan of at Aldi but that isn’t because of the Aldi-ness of them, it’s the individual products in question. I welcome Aldi and other shopping outlets because I believe that healthy competition among the supermarkets is only a good thing – Coles and Woollies started dropping the price of certain items when Aldi came along and I notice that they keep the prices up for a lot of the items Aldi doesn’t have. Furthermore, it’s nice to see an end to the relatively anti-competitive power the big supermarkets used to have when negotiating leases at shopping centres.

For someone who disparages bogans (presumably because they are ignorant), it seems strange that the same person then proceeds to disparage Aldi and its customers in the manner above … that seems to personify what I regard as a fundamental element of Boganism …

why should supabarn be given any more sites when they charge as much as they do. I can’t stand being ripped off

screaming banshee said :

My name is screaming danger banshee and I stand for:

Quality over quantity
Purchasing from local Australian businesses
Paying the GST
Making things from scratch using fresh local produce

If I cant afford to have the best, then I’m prepared to go without. I guess that makes me elitist….well who doesn’t want to be elite.

Sensible people don’t give a rat’s about being “elite”. They “stand for” saving money on inconsequential things like groceries and spend the savings on things that do matter, like paying off their mortgage more quickly, providing for their retirement, or saving for their kids’ uni education.

Take it from someone who has actually shopped at Aldi, in our case for close to 4 years: Aldi products are the same quality or better than what folks you like to be seen buying at Coles or Woolworths. Their fruit and veg are miles ahead of both and their meat is generally excellent quality, especially their sirloin steaks. Most of the packaged foodstuffs are made in Australia under contract by the same companies that supply branded products to Coles/Woolies. Aldi saves us about $70 per week, or about 3 extra fortnightly mortgage payments per year.

Incidentally, as a former Belconnenite, I find it highly amusing that someone who fancies herself as being “elite” and too good to shop at Aldi appears to live in Kaleen of all places. My recollections of Kaleen circa 2005 are of tired ex-govies stretched out along endlessly looping, go-nowhere crescents. Here’s hoping your strategy of getting rich by paying unnecessarily high grocery prices enables you to get out of there and into a suburb more suited to your high social standing.

screaming banshee said :

Tooks said :

I’d have to disagree and I’m betting you’ve never set foot in the place, otherwise you’d know better.

I dont have to set foot in the place, I get the catalogues and my bogan inlaws think shopping there is the ducks nuts so I get to experience the poor quality food.

They’re like a reject shop that sells groceries, all their ‘homewares’ or whatever you want to call it a cheap and nasty rubbish that will end up as landfill. Their food products are low quality/high fat/high salt tasteless rubbish manufactured for the lowest possible cost. Their private brands are designed to mimic as closely as possible a reputable product without being sued.

One must assume that they do this for the benefit of their customers, so visitors that manage at passing glance of someones fridge/pantry/bathroom doesn’t notice.

My name is screaming danger banshee and I stand for:

Quality over quantity
Purchasing from local Australian businesses
Paying the GST
Making things from scratch using fresh local produce

If I cant afford to have the best, then I’m prepared to go without. I guess that makes me elitist….well who doesn’t want to be elite.

Well, if nothing else I have to admire how you don’t let your ignorance get in the way of your opinion.

Just because your bogan rellies only buy those products doesn’t mean that is all they sell.
oh, btw, from the aldi website:

Australia is renowned for the quality and freshness of its produce. That’s why 100% of our fresh meat, 97% of our dairy products and 97% of our fruit and vegetables in our Australian stores is sourced from Australian farmers++.

and their haribo gummy bears are tops in my book.

screaming banshee5:08 pm 10 Jan 11

Tooks said :

I’d have to disagree and I’m betting you’ve never set foot in the place, otherwise you’d know better.

I dont have to set foot in the place, I get the catalogues and my bogan inlaws think shopping there is the ducks nuts so I get to experience the poor quality food.

They’re like a reject shop that sells groceries, all their ‘homewares’ or whatever you want to call it a cheap and nasty rubbish that will end up as landfill. Their food products are low quality/high fat/high salt tasteless rubbish manufactured for the lowest possible cost. Their private brands are designed to mimic as closely as possible a reputable product without being sued.

One must assume that they do this for the benefit of their customers, so visitors that manage at passing glance of someones fridge/pantry/bathroom doesn’t notice.

My name is screaming danger banshee and I stand for:

Quality over quantity
Purchasing from local Australian businesses
Paying the GST
Making things from scratch using fresh local produce

If I cant afford to have the best, then I’m prepared to go without. I guess that makes me elitist….well who doesn’t want to be elite.

EvanJames said :

I wish the Quangers Aldi was allowed to sell beer. It is a serious problem. The lack of cheap belgian beer.

You can just drive up Canberra Avenue to Manuka Oval and get a beer for $7. I dont know what you are on about.

I wish the Quangers Aldi was allowed to sell beer. It is a serious problem. The lack of cheap belgian beer.

screaming banshee said :

I’m not sure where they intend to put the Aldi in Kaleen, but I for one wont be shopping their. All they sell is rubbish cheap knockoff shit that drives our throwaway society.

I’d have to disagree and I’m betting you’ve never set foot in the place, otherwise you’d know better.

I shop there occasionally and find the overall quality of products no better and no worse than the stuff I buy from Coles or Woolies. Obviously their variety has nothing on the Big Two, but being about 40% cheaper, I’m willing to wear that.

Aldi must be a godsend for low income families.

screaming banshee said :

I’m not sure where they intend to put the Aldi in Kaleen, but I for one wont be shopping their. All they sell is rubbish cheap knockoff shit that drives our throwaway society.

Perhaps they mean Lawson

Shopping at ALDI is certainly not fun – but it doesn’t take long to be converted once you see the prices for basic (and mostly Australian made) food items. Personally I reckon ALDI is the right business model at the right time, especially when Coles and Woolies are fighting it out with celebrity chefs and TV show tie-ins.

Ditto the Dickson site. Its been years since it was announced Aldi would be setting up shop there …. its still just a derelict building site. So much for competition.

Not to mention the complete lack of anything at the Downer shops – revamped for the bicentenary – then left to rot. WTF?

“…in principal support to the sale of” a site is still a long way behind what’s going on at Giralang.

I just don’t get the mixed messages here – on one hand they want ALDI in to increase competition, and on the other they want to block out Coles and Woolworths, presumably because they represent too much competition. The poor buggers at IGA and Supabarn must be fuming. Just as the folks at Kaleen are facing massive competition from Woolworths, the government paves the way for another chain to open up, not in the adjoining suburb, but RIGHT NEXT DOOR!?

Meh. For Erindale, there’s already an Aldi just 3km down the road (though I appreciate Jon would not even know how to get to get to Tuggers let alone what’s down there), so it seems a bit of a token measure (no surprises there). And on the other side of Wanniassa is a Supabarn; clearly even having one of his preferred “battling” local non-majors in the vicinity of Woolies at Erindale isn’t making a difference now. Wouldn’t Aldi cannabalise sales from the local Supabarn as well, leading to less sales = less profit = higher prices or less service?

What is Stanhope’s populist vendetta against Coles and Woolies about anyway? I can’t imagine him saying “Canberrans want more choice than just Labor or Liberal, so we’re not going to allow them any new candiates in the next election and we will help smaller parties win seats”…

screaming banshee11:59 am 10 Jan 11

there.

I’ve been doing that alot lately, I blame the new keyboard

screaming banshee11:57 am 10 Jan 11

I’m not sure where they intend to put the Aldi in Kaleen, but I for one wont be shopping their. All they sell is rubbish cheap knockoff shit that drives our throwaway society.

Perhaps they mean Lawson

Is this some massive FU to the Supabarn group?

Surprising news! I’m certainly not complaining, though would like to point out we’ve been waiting over 4 years for something to happen with the derelict shopping site over the hill in Giralang… Interesting that an ALDI can be rushed through for the sake of competition, while the Giralang bomb site is constantly held up because it’s Woolies.

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