27 June 2011

322 new homes for the Jamison Inn site

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ACTPLA have announced a huge new development has been approved for the old Jamison Inn site at Macquarie.

ACTPLA’s Chief Planning Executive, Neil Savery, said the redevelopment would comprise eight 4-6 storey buildings with commercial and non-commercial uses allowed on the ground level and basement parking.

“The proposal is an excellent design that optimises the use of underutilised land close to a group centre,” Mr Savery said.

“The development meets the Government’s policy objective for infill development, which will help the city become more sustainable and increase housing choice in this location.

“It is close to a group centre, town centre, the University of Canberra, Calvary hospital and a major transport corridor. When people can live, work, study, shop and play near their home, they are more likely to walk, ride or use public transport than drive.

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devils_advocate9:47 am 06 Mar 12

agent00 said :

Sounds like you just got your loan application shut down. LOL.

Not quite. Unfortunately I’m one of the much maligned “greedy investors” because I have the audacity to own more than 1 residential property, and therefore nearly as unpopular as disingenuously self-promoting real estate agents.

Nearly.

This is the kind of development that Canberra needs – close to the shops, school, hospital, etc. Instead of building out, we need more medium density housing options like this. Otherwise, when will there ever be a light rail line? 2050?

devils_advocate said :

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

LOL. So you can build what is a fundamentally crappy apartment, smaller than any of the houses in the immediate vicinity, and just by slapping a ridiculous price tag on it, ensure that you get the “right” type of people in there? Um, no.

What happens is you attract the right type of idiot – the onewith access to finance that is out of all proportion to their intelligence. They realise they can’t make the repayments, and worse still, can’t cover a significant amount of the repayments by letting it out, and then you have the forced sales, often at substantial discounts to the purchase price.

Seen it plenty of times before.

Sounds like you just got your loan application shut down. LOL.

devils_advocate9:29 am 17 Feb 12

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

LOL. So you can build what is a fundamentally crappy apartment, smaller than any of the houses in the immediate vicinity, and just by slapping a ridiculous price tag on it, ensure that you get the “right” type of people in there? Um, no.

What happens is you attract the right type of idiot – the onewith access to finance that is out of all proportion to their intelligence. They realise they can’t make the repayments, and worse still, can’t cover a significant amount of the repayments by letting it out, and then you have the forced sales, often at substantial discounts to the purchase price.

Seen it plenty of times before.

agent00 said :

farnarkler said :

Just remember that some of those units will go to Housing ACT and NGOs. Residents in their properties range from little old ladies who are nice as pie to drug dealing scum no-hopers who’ll intimidate everyone around them.

From where did you hear that? You do know you can get into legal troubles by spreading false information, right?

Seriosly – there has to be some sort of declaration of interests for this bloke to keep posting doesn’t there?

agent00 said :

Jethro said :

agent00 said :

Keijidosha said :

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

Looks are deceptive. Space in Turner might look flash from the outside, but the apartments themselves are nothing special at all. The fitouts are far from impressive considering the prices.

Well, how many of you have ducted rangehood and ducted AC in your home?

My 30 year old 3 beddie (all double sized) in Belco has ducted reverse cycle AC. It also has a renovated kitchen and one renovated bathroom (that’s right, we have 2 bathrooms).

Cost less than a 2 beddie apartment at one of these places too. AND I don’t have to worry about structural problems that will appear in 2 years time due to shoddy workmanship. People bag out old homes, but they tend to be built to a much higher standard. The problems with some of the apartments at the Kingston Foreshore stand as an example of the issues that can arise from buying new instead of established. Friends of mine who bought new homes in new suburbs at the same time I bought my established one have had to deal with structural problems, whereas I haven’t spent a cent other than a new coat of paint and some money in the garden for my vegies and fruit trees.

Why someone would spend so much on a 1 or 2 beddie apartment in Macquarie when you could buy a proper house for the same price a couple of suburbs further out is beyond me.

30ys old with EER of 0? And why live 25km out from city centre when you can live close to a major town centre in walking distance to all the amenities you can think of.

And about the quality and the finishing, pay a visit to Space the Residence in Turner to see for yourself. It’s been there for 6+ years and still showing no sign of aging.

EER of 3.5 (not great, but not zero). 7 minute drive to Jamo

agent00 said :

From where did you hear that? You do know you can get into legal troubles by spreading false information, right?

Lol!

Then how come Tony Abbott isn’t in gaol?

farnarkler said :

Just remember that some of those units will go to Housing ACT and NGOs. Residents in their properties range from little old ladies who are nice as pie to drug dealing scum no-hopers who’ll intimidate everyone around them.

From where did you hear that? You do know you can get into legal troubles by spreading false information, right?

Jethro said :

agent00 said :

Keijidosha said :

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

Looks are deceptive. Space in Turner might look flash from the outside, but the apartments themselves are nothing special at all. The fitouts are far from impressive considering the prices.

Well, how many of you have ducted rangehood and ducted AC in your home?

My 30 year old 3 beddie (all double sized) in Belco has ducted reverse cycle AC. It also has a renovated kitchen and one renovated bathroom (that’s right, we have 2 bathrooms).

Cost less than a 2 beddie apartment at one of these places too. AND I don’t have to worry about structural problems that will appear in 2 years time due to shoddy workmanship. People bag out old homes, but they tend to be built to a much higher standard. The problems with some of the apartments at the Kingston Foreshore stand as an example of the issues that can arise from buying new instead of established. Friends of mine who bought new homes in new suburbs at the same time I bought my established one have had to deal with structural problems, whereas I haven’t spent a cent other than a new coat of paint and some money in the garden for my vegies and fruit trees.

Why someone would spend so much on a 1 or 2 beddie apartment in Macquarie when you could buy a proper house for the same price a couple of suburbs further out is beyond me.

30ys old with EER of 0? And why live 25km out from city centre when you can live close to a major town centre in walking distance to all the amenities you can think of. And about the quality and the finishing, pay a visit to Space the Residence in Turner to see for yourself. It’s been there for 6+ years and still showing no sign of aging.

agent00 said :

Keijidosha said :

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

Looks are deceptive. Space in Turner might look flash from the outside, but the apartments themselves are nothing special at all. The fitouts are far from impressive considering the prices.

Well, how many of you have ducted rangehood and ducted AC in your home?

My 30 year old 3 beddie (all double sized) in Belco has ducted reverse cycle AC. It also has a renovated kitchen and one renovated bathroom (that’s right, we have 2 bathrooms).

Cost less than a 2 beddie apartment at one of these places too. AND I don’t have to worry about structural problems that will appear in 2 years time due to shoddy workmanship. People bag out old homes, but they tend to be built to a much higher standard. The problems with some of the apartments at the Kingston Foreshore stand as an example of the issues that can arise from buying new instead of established. Friends of mine who bought new homes in new suburbs at the same time I bought my established one have had to deal with structural problems, whereas I haven’t spent a cent other than a new coat of paint and some money in the garden for my vegies and fruit trees.

Why someone would spend so much on a 1 or 2 beddie apartment in Macquarie when you could buy a proper house for the same price a couple of suburbs further out is beyond me.

You cannot be serious? They are marketing boxes @ Jamo for 900,000 clams-haaaahaaaabhaaa

Just remember that some of those units will go to Housing ACT and NGOs. Residents in their properties range from little old ladies who are nice as pie to drug dealing scum no-hopers who’ll intimidate everyone around them.

Keijidosha said :

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

Looks are deceptive. Space in Turner might look flash from the outside, but the apartments themselves are nothing special at all. The fitouts are far from impressive considering the prices.

Well, how many of you have ducted rangehood and ducted AC in your home?

Visit the sales office and see for yourself. There will be more than enough parking on-site so those who are concerned should stop worrying. The apartments are being built by the same people who put up Space the residence in Turner. So it will be a high quality development rather than a slum as many are claiming it to be.

Space the Residence Turner
http://www.architecture.com.au/awards_search?option=showaward&entryno=2009014118

p1 said :

I tend to agree that the space in question might well be better used. What I do wonder about is if the private developers have compensated the public for the loss of use of the space, however inefficient that use may have been?

322 units will generate a heck of a lot of stamp duty revenue. Not to mention hundreds of thousands in rates every year.

Sounds like reasonable compensation to me.

Martlark said :

Always thought this was a tremendous waste of space for what is a minor road joining another slightly less minor road. A prime example of the ostentatious gigantism that pretends to be ‘good’ planning in much of Canberra.

I tend to agree that the space in question might well be better used. What I do wonder about is if the private developers have compensated the public for the loss of use of the space, however inefficient that use may have been?

p1 said :

GBT said :

It doesn’t occur to some that other people have no issue living in apartments or that it might be a step on the way up.

I agree with most of your post…. but a step up? If $340K prices are a step up, these people must be aiming high.

Gerry-Built said :

….The slip lane off Bowman St on to Redfern will be resumed for the second stage…

Really? How is that happening? It is a mighty useful bit of road,..

Always thought this was a tremendous waste of space for what is a minor road joining another slightly less minor road. A prime example of the ostentatious gigantism that pretends to be ‘good’ planning in much of Canberra.

Ah, the old Jamo Inn, used to be a great live music place back in the 80s.

And then in the 90’s it was karaoke with the Ugly Sambucca Brothers…yeehhhhh!!!

GBT said :

It doesn’t occur to some that other people have no issue living in apartments or that it might be a step on the way up.

I agree with most of your post…. but a step up? If $340K prices are a step up, these people must be aiming high.

Gerry-Built said :

….The slip lane off Bowman St on to Redfern will be resumed for the second stage…

Really? How is that happening? It is a mighty useful bit of road, and it has been for at least twenty years that I remember. So how is it to be turned over to a private owner? My understanding is that roads which are open to the public become public right of ways after that long.

Martlark said :

Such hostility! Slums are usually low rise shacks populated by poor people. These will be expensive, very expensive, medium height buildings and housing quite wealthy people. Living one or two floors above the ground does not immediately constitute slum housing. Please return to reality or write more obviously ironic posts.

Give up. Some of the people on this site have their heads so far up their own ass it’s ridiculous. Apparently anything that doesn’t meet their standards or anything at all in Gungahlin is a slum or a ghetto. It doesn’t occur to some that other people have no issue living in apartments or that it might be a step on the way up.

Some of you need to go and spend a week living in a favela because you seem to be so far out of touch with reality that you think medium/high density housing in a city as affluent as Canberra is a slum.

Kerryhemsley10:24 am 28 Jun 11

arescarti42 said :

Watson said :

$340K for 60m2?! In Macquarie?! Wow.

It just boggles the mind, doesn’t it? That much would buy a 3 bedroom apartment with roof terrace in the CBD of most major US cities. Or a sprawling mansion in the suburbs.

But not close to the city in Sydney or Melbourne.

Watson said :

$340K for 60m2?! In Macquarie?! Wow.

It just boggles the mind, doesn’t it? That much would buy a 3 bedroom apartment with roof terrace in the CBD of most major US cities. Or a sprawling mansion in the suburbs.

neanderthalsis10:09 am 28 Jun 11

I wonder if the commercial space will be actually used. the first Oracle building in Belco has 4 shopfronts at ground level on Benjamin way that have sat empty since the building was finished. One would think that there would be more potential for commercial lots in central Belco with DIAC and ABS a spit and holler away and lower rents than in Westfield.

Martlark said :

Living one or two floors above the ground does not immediately constitute slum housing.

Sorry. Ghetto.

Gerry-Built said :

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

Looks are deceptive. Space in Turner might look flash from the outside, but the apartments themselves are nothing special at all. The fitouts are far from impressive considering the prices.

Watson said :

I love how they try to make the carpark look like some sort of a community space in the brochure! ….

Hahahaha! That is SOOO true in those pics! It looks hilarious! Every bitumen carpark there has people strolling thru it for a Sunday walk! 🙂

Gerry-Built said :

I had a look at the display on Saturday last. The first four buildings (3 on the carpark edge nearest Jamison Centre, and the one on Bowman St) will be built as soon as the inn comes down in three weeks. 11 shops (salon, cafes and restaurants) under the first three buildings. The last four buildings will be built along Redfern Street as the first stage is completed. The slip lane off Bowman St on to Redfern will be resumed for the second stage (The block is nearly as big as all the car parking around Jammo). Cheapest apartments were $340,000 (61m2 – not including balcony) – the largest were a smidgeon over $900,000 (I didn’t bother with getting any details of these 😛 ) and well over 160m2 (these do not feature in the brochure). Smaller apartments get one car spot, with the medium, and larger getting two; in the basement carpark.

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

$340K for 60m2?! In Macquarie?! Wow.

I remember spending a week or more living at the Jamison Inn inbetween rental houses during uni…. fun times…. bet I still played significantly less rent then what people will be paying for there apartments. Although I imagine quality will vary a great deal…. I hope. I dont mind an apartment if it is well built, unlike most modern “souless holes”.

I had a look at the display on Saturday last. The first four buildings (3 on the carpark edge nearest Jamison Centre, and the one on Bowman St) will be built as soon as the inn comes down in three weeks. 11 shops (salon, cafes and restaurants) under the first three buildings. The last four buildings will be built along Redfern Street as the first stage is completed. The slip lane off Bowman St on to Redfern will be resumed for the second stage (The block is nearly as big as all the car parking around Jammo). Cheapest apartments were $340,000 (61m2 – not including balcony) – the largest were a smidgeon over $900,000 (I didn’t bother with getting any details of these 😛 ) and well over 160m2 (these do not feature in the brochure). Smaller apartments get one car spot, with the medium, and larger getting two; in the basement carpark.

Same developers as Space in Turner. They looked like they were going to be quite nice; no slum, methinks. Especially with THOSE prices…

It’s already impossible to get a parking spot at Jamison. There will be loss of space and amenity as the whole thing is turned into a construction site. Infill? Bah, humbug. My dogs have more space than the humans there will have.

Muttsybignuts9:25 pm 27 Jun 11

Martlark said :

Such hostility! Slums are usually low rise shacks populated by poor people. These will be expensive, very expensive, medium height buildings and housing quite wealthy people. Living one or two floors above the ground does not immediately constitute slum housing. Please return to reality or write more obviously ironic posts.

Sorry. You cant polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter. I hope you enjoy your poorly built, highly overpriced, so close you can hear your neighbours fart dog box. It just isn’t for me.

random said :

That has to be one of the least useful press releases ever issued.

Isn’t this Space Macquarie? Those units have been on sale for ages.

I love how they try to make the carpark look like some sort of a community space in the brochure! “You’ll have no lack of fresh air at Space Macquarie! A 2 square foot balcony AND you and your kids can hang out in the carpark.”

Such hostility! Slums are usually low rise shacks populated by poor people. These will be expensive, very expensive, medium height buildings and housing quite wealthy people. Living one or two floors above the ground does not immediately constitute slum housing. Please return to reality or write more obviously ironic posts.

neanderthalsis said :

“Homes” might be a little ambitious for high density urban infill.

322 “shoe boxes” doesn’t sound as good

Mr Lubberlubber5:12 pm 27 Jun 11

It definitely is Space Macquarie. It looks like they may have been trimmed of some units. I thought that they had closer to 350 or so at DA stage, but their website doesn’t give any numbers away.

Rawhide Kid Part35:09 pm 27 Jun 11

In the future will be known as the Jamison Slums……

No doubt not enough car parks will be provided, meaning residents will park in the Jammo carpark thus causing problems there. Far too many appartments planned for this site.

Muttsybignuts4:44 pm 27 Jun 11

The land isn’t that big. Cramming 8 multi level buildings in there will create another ghetto.

That has to be one of the least useful press releases ever issued.

Isn’t this Space Macquarie? Those units have been on sale for ages.

neanderthalsis4:24 pm 27 Jun 11

“Homes” might be a little ambitious for high density urban infill.

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