2 May 2013

521 speeding drivers in April

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ACT Policing caught more than 521 drivers speeding on Canberra roads during the month of April as part of its multi-agency road safety strategy.

Police issued a total of 521 Traffic Infringement Notices (TINs) for speeding and 198 cautions.

Some 246 drivers were caught travelling more than 15km/h but less than 30km/h over the speed limit.

Traffic Operations Officer-in-Charge Sergeant Rod Anderson said drivers should have the message by now that speeding is dangerous.

“Drivers need to remember speed affects their ability to stop their car to prevent collisions,” Sergeant Anderson said.

“If you’re speeding, what may have been a minor collision if you were sticking to the speed limit could end up being much more serious.

“Drivers who willfully speed were gambling with their own lives, the lives of other drivers and passengers, and the lives of children, pedestrians and cyclists.

“I’m also concerned by the 56 motorists that received TINs for speeding in school zones during the month of April.
“Speeding in school zones exposes some of the most vulnerable people in our community to the greatest risk; there is no excuse.”

Fines for speeding range from a minimum of $167 and the loss of one demerit point to over $1,800 and the loss of six demerit points for each offence.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Woody Mann-Caruso3:49 pm 03 May 13

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car
My car will take a longer distance to stop

derp

Zeital said :

goggles13 said :

Zeital said :

goggles13 said :

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

what do you drive so i can stay the hell away from you please?

I drive a car.

my biggest issue with this article and every similar version trotted out is that it makes sweeping generalisations that ignore the reality.

speed by itself does not kill or injure, it is inappropriate speed. no car has every had an accident going in a straight line at any speed unless another factor has come into play.

I also think that passive enforcement of speeding is the wrong approach to road safety. it is much more effective for the police to have a visible presence on the road

yes nothing happens on its own but when you speed and another factor happens guess what, you then have a chain reaction of events….. speeding + another event = unforseen accident. It could be a dog or a kid suddenly running out onto the road and your speeding would be a contributing factor to their injury or death.

I agree with you on that. my concern is that speeding is targetted on a repetitive basis by the authorities and almost every other behaviour that contributes to accidents is not so rigidly enforced.

yes I know that a fixed camera cannot help with right lane hogs, people using their phones etc, etc, but these issues do contribute to accidents and can only be enforced by police presence. IMHO this needs to be stepped up, rather than the bleating about speeding.

goggles13 said :

Zeital said :

goggles13 said :

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

what do you drive so i can stay the hell away from you please?

I drive a car.

my biggest issue with this article and every similar version trotted out is that it makes sweeping generalisations that ignore the reality.

speed by itself does not kill or injure, it is inappropriate speed. no car has every had an accident going in a straight line at any speed unless another factor has come into play.

I also think that passive enforcement of speeding is the wrong approach to road safety. it is much more effective for the police to have a visible presence on the road

yes nothing happens on its own but when you speed and another factor happens guess what, you then have a chain reaction of events….. speeding + another event = unforseen accident. It could be a dog or a kid suddenly running out onto the road and your speeding would be a contributing factor to their injury or death.

why or how you think it is ok just because it has never happened to you is baffles me

I’m sorry, what the Police do (how they drive) shouts so loudly I can’t hear a word they’re saying… “Traffic Operations Officer-in-Charge Sergeant Rod Anderson said drivers should have the message by now that speeding is dangerous
Interestingly his own staff don’t seem to have the message yet either – or perhaps they’re just thrill seekers?

goggles13 said :

if the ACT Police want to shock us into not speeding by quoting figures, why don’t they say they caught 619 (521 + 198) people speeding rather than more than 521?

And 719, which is actually the sum of 521 and 198, would be even more shocking.

Zeital said :

goggles13 said :

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

what do you drive so i can stay the hell away from you please?

I drive a car.

my biggest issue with this article and every similar version trotted out is that it makes sweeping generalisations that ignore the reality.

speed by itself does not kill or injure, it is inappropriate speed. no car has every had an accident going in a straight line at any speed unless another factor has come into play.

I also think that passive enforcement of speeding is the wrong approach to road safety. it is much more effective for the police to have a visible presence on the road

Martlark said :

goggles13 said :

..rant .. rant .. rant..
speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

It does affect your ability to brake as you’ll have less time between deciding to brake and whatever it is your trying to avoid hitting you, actually hitting you. Thus: no effective braking. Roads are public transport not a personal playboy playground. Grow up.

your absolutely wrong on all accounts in your response.

Jim Jones said :

magiccar9 said :

How many times do they have to tell us the same old story in different words? “Speeding impairs your ability to….”, “Speeding is dangerous because….” Blah Blah Blah!
If we haven’t got the message by now we never will.
Also, how many of those school zone infringements were on the first day back from the recent holidays? I’d imagine quite a few unknowing people – thus resulting in a genuine accident that they were speeding.
Do the coppers look at the data of where people are being caught over the limit. If hundreds of people are being caught in the same area month after month, maybe they should look into the possibility of raising the limit as there must be some sort of problem…?

1. You do know that there are big f$^ing signs in front of school zones, right? They tell you that it’s a school zone and what the speed limit is. How could you possibly miss that?

2. “If lots of people are speeding, then they should increase the speed limit”. Are you retarded?

its called the 75th percentile rule. if 75% of motorists are doing a speed different to the posted limit on the road, then the limit should be adjusted to the speed that 75% of motorists are doing. irrespective of whether that is an increase or a decrease!

goggles13 said :

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

what do you drive so i can stay the hell away from you please?

magiccar9 said :

Jim Jones said :

1. You do know that there are big f$^ing signs in front of school zones, right? They tell you that it’s a school zone and what the speed limit is. How could you possibly miss that?

2. “If lots of people are speeding, then they should increase the speed limit”. Are you retarded?

I’m not debating the school zones. But people get complacent after however many weeks schools are on holidays. It becomes second nature that one has to break come school times again. Again, I’m not defending speeding in school zones, just asking a question of the data – for the record I’ve never had a speeding ticket.

Second, I merely question that if hundreds of people are being booked for >15km/h <30km/h in the same spot, maybe they can see benefits from bumping the speed a little bit. Say, from 70km/h to 80km/h? I think that sort of thing could potentially improve traffic flow in some areas. But it would have to be given careful consideration of course. I certainly didn't mean to increase zones to ludicrous speeds.

what so people can do 15-30 over in the new speed zone?? it doesn’t work like that. This kind of thing makes me angry.

c_c™ said :

““I’m also concerned by the 56 motorists that received TINs for speeding in school zones during the month of April.”

I genuinely can’t remember the last time I saw someone do 40 through a school zone. Often it’s parents with kids in the car, wonder if they’ve thought of the harm to their kids of witnessing their mum knocking down a kid who runs out in front of them?

This.

Whenever I go by a school I’m astounded by how many parents go absolutely nuts with their massive 4WD things ignoring the speed limits in their haste to drop off or pick up their kids.

Jim Jones said :

1. You do know that there are big f$^ing signs in front of school zones, right? They tell you that it’s a school zone and what the speed limit is. How could you possibly miss that?

2. “If lots of people are speeding, then they should increase the speed limit”. Are you retarded?

I’m not debating the school zones. But people get complacent after however many weeks schools are on holidays. It becomes second nature that one has to break come school times again. Again, I’m not defending speeding in school zones, just asking a question of the data – for the record I’ve never had a speeding ticket.

Second, I merely question that if hundreds of people are being booked for >15km/h <30km/h in the same spot, maybe they can see benefits from bumping the speed a little bit. Say, from 70km/h to 80km/h? I think that sort of thing could potentially improve traffic flow in some areas. But it would have to be given careful consideration of course. I certainly didn't mean to increase zones to ludicrous speeds.

““I’m also concerned by the 56 motorists that received TINs for speeding in school zones during the month of April.”

I genuinely can’t remember the last time I saw someone do 40 through a school zone. Often it’s parents with kids in the car, wonder if they’ve thought of the harm to their kids of witnessing their mum knocking down a kid who runs out in front of them?

magiccar9 said :

How many times do they have to tell us the same old story in different words? “Speeding impairs your ability to….”, “Speeding is dangerous because….” Blah Blah Blah!
If we haven’t got the message by now we never will.
Also, how many of those school zone infringements were on the first day back from the recent holidays? I’d imagine quite a few unknowing people – thus resulting in a genuine accident that they were speeding.
Do the coppers look at the data of where people are being caught over the limit. If hundreds of people are being caught in the same area month after month, maybe they should look into the possibility of raising the limit as there must be some sort of problem…?

What a crock. There are so many holes in your argument you may as well not have bothered writing it at all.

You exhibit a grossly indifferent attitude to an activity that kills and maims people every day of the year. Also, one that costs us, as taxpayers, more than it should because of the aforementioned indifferent attitude coupled with an inflated sense of their level of skill and capability.

I’ll address your points sequentially.

The filth should redouble their efforts until dunces like yourself finally do either ‘get the message’ or are forced from the roads for the safety of others.

What does it matter whether it’s the first or last day of school? School zone speed signs are packed away during school holidays and redisplayed during term. If you cannot notice a speed sign by the side of the road you deserve to be fined. Moreover, they probably should have their license taken from them on the spot as their eyes are obviously painted on. How dangerous is that?

Lastly, the police don’t set the speed limits, the roads authority does. Besides, by your logic, if everyone gets faster cars and drives as fast as their like everywhere they go, the limits will be incrementally raised so as there are eventually no limits at all.

You weren’t that tosspot this morning that tried to race me on to Majura Rd from Moreshead and Fairbairn were you? Yes, I deliberately didn’t let you in and yes I deliberately pulled in front of you on Majura when you tried to go around me at speed by crossing the unbroken line. Anything I could do to antagonise you was my pleasure indeed.

Why is it that when people know they have to go left on to Majura they get in the right hand lane at Moreshead? There were only three cars lined up for god’s sake. Wait your f#$%#$ing turn!

magiccar9 said :

Also, how many of those school zone infringements were on the first day back from the recent holidays? I’d imagine quite a few unknowing people – thus resulting in a genuine accident that they were speeding.

How TF do you ‘genuinely accidentally’ speed through a school zone?

How do you miss a school zone sign? They don’t move. They are not hidden. Their profile is larger than normal speed signs.

There’s nothing accidental about being inattentive and negligent.

goggles13 said :

..rant .. rant .. rant..
speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

It does affect your ability to brake as you’ll have less time between deciding to brake and whatever it is your trying to avoid hitting you, actually hitting you. Thus: no effective braking. Roads are public transport not a personal playboy playground. Grow up.

If heaps of people are getting murdered and raped and burgled, maybe they should just change the laws because there must be some sort of problem.

magiccar9 said :

How many times do they have to tell us the same old story in different words? “Speeding impairs your ability to….”, “Speeding is dangerous because….” Blah Blah Blah!
If we haven’t got the message by now we never will.
Also, how many of those school zone infringements were on the first day back from the recent holidays? I’d imagine quite a few unknowing people – thus resulting in a genuine accident that they were speeding.
Do the coppers look at the data of where people are being caught over the limit. If hundreds of people are being caught in the same area month after month, maybe they should look into the possibility of raising the limit as there must be some sort of problem…?

1. You do know that there are big f$^ing signs in front of school zones, right? They tell you that it’s a school zone and what the speed limit is. How could you possibly miss that?

2. “If lots of people are speeding, then they should increase the speed limit”. Are you retarded?

How many times do they have to tell us the same old story in different words? “Speeding impairs your ability to….”, “Speeding is dangerous because….” Blah Blah Blah!
If we haven’t got the message by now we never will.
Also, how many of those school zone infringements were on the first day back from the recent holidays? I’d imagine quite a few unknowing people – thus resulting in a genuine accident that they were speeding.
Do the coppers look at the data of where people are being caught over the limit. If hundreds of people are being caught in the same area month after month, maybe they should look into the possibility of raising the limit as there must be some sort of problem…?

if the ACT Police want to shock us into not speeding by quoting figures, why don’t they say they caught 619 (521 + 198) people speeding rather than more than 521?

unless the 198 were not actually speeding in which case why were they issued with cautions and mentioned in a fairy tale about speeding?

speed does not affect my ability to stop my car to prevent collisions, I still have the same ability to push the brake pedal at 5kmh or 250kmh. My car will take a longer distance to stop from 250kmh than it would at 5kmh

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