Advice sought to investigate dog bashing in Canberra?

Tooks said :

What are you going to do about it? Seriously? And what advice did DAS give you?

My guess is OP will get a new dog, despite all the suggestions to be a responsible person and not get one. Then will continue being passive aggressive to the suspected neighbor.

In a few months time, we will be back at the same situation again, with OP not taking responsibility for their animal.

I’d also have good odds on OP getting 2 dogs, to “keep each other company” which will result in more noise.

BimboGeek said :

This thread has certainly been a lesson in the questions we all need to ask ourselves before getting a pet…..They are actually very difficult and needy creatures and the gym before work, drinks or dinner in the evening lifestyle that leaves people away from the home for most of the day certainly isn’t compatible with the needy pack animal that wishes proximity to his leader.

Totally agree.

BimboGeek said :

I guess your last options are debarking

Debarking doesn’t really solve the problem; The animal still squeaks, and is still bored.

This thread has certainly been a lesson in the questions we all need to ask ourselves before getting a pet. They say pets aren’t just for Christmas but we’re also seeing that dogs aren’t just for weekends or the evening walkies. They are actually very difficult and needy creatures and the gym before work, drinks or dinner in the evening lifestyle that leaves people away from the home for most of the day certainly isn’t compatible with the needy pack animal that wishes proximity to his leader.

Definitely get some cheap motion activated surveilance or a basic webcam pointed at your gate, anyway. While you continue training your friends, their attacker may return and you’ll have evidence should it ever (we hope not) happen again. There are threads on basic surveilance options you can search.

I guess your last options are debarking or giving them away to someone rural or maybe a fit recently retired person who can wrangle some exciteable dogs but is home most of the time. Debarking is generally classed with docking but becomes legal and indeed begins to look like a more moral option in cases like yours where the alternative is that the neighbours kick it to death and where you’re obviously not taking the easy way out by avoiding training, collars and so on.

Ridgebacks and many ridgeback halfbreeds(often smaller and so longer lived) can be quite vocal but don’t get the barking thing. Plus being hounds, don’t fret so much when left alone.
A cat can also serve to to keep a dog company. Just big trouble if another dog chases “their” cat.

Kicking, so wrong.

Ledanta said :

Thanks everyone for all of your help. I think I will just take this issue into my own hands.

What are you going to do about it? Seriously? And what advice did DAS give you?

The police could easily check the guy’s shoes and boots for dog hairs and match them.

Do recall how cats have to be in a cat run in Forde. Environmental protection, right? Now Forde residents get to pay a premium to live next to small yappy dogs shut in 3×3 excuses for backyards. Owners are never home because they’re working crazy hours to pay off their premium mortgage. I’m looking at you, owners of maltese terrier and jack russell. “Oh we need to get another dog because the other one died.” Congratulations, you just doubled the noise. Insert slow clap here.

I have a hunch that a lot of these dogs are bad to start off with because they come from puppy farms. Buying from a decent breeder is like going through a job interview.

Thanks everyone for all of your help. I think I will just take this issue into my own hands.

Postalgeek said :

Maybe next time you buy an Alsation. They don’t react so well to strangers kicking them.

There is no such dog as an Alsation, unless you are still at war with Germany that is. Bugbear of mine.
A well bred and trained German Shepherd, while their bark can be intimidating, is usually a sook at heart.
The stories out there about how people abuse sheps will shock most people. My dad told me of a dog used as a guard dog in Fyshwick many years ago. Dog was not trained as a guard dog but the guy who used it as such, obviously thought as most do; German Shephard=guard dog.
The dog was gutted by the lowlifes who broke into the place.

Henry82 said :

Ledanta said :

Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work..

“I can’t hear it, so not my problem”

Advice on avoiding this occurring again? Not getting a noisy pet that requires constant care and attention.

Win!

“I wuv my wittle snoogie-woogie. He wouldn’t hurt a wittle fwy!”. Meanwhile, poor little snoogie-woogie is bored out of his tiny brain and can do nothing but bark and bark and bark and bark, knowing that if he barks long enough his owner will come home from work.

“But wittle snoogie-woogie never barks!”

Ledanta said :

Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work..

“I can’t hear it, so not my problem”

Advice on avoiding this occurring again? Not getting a noisy pet that requires constant care and attention.

breda said :

I am not speaking on behalf of Mme Cholet, but your question is fair enough.

The reality is that people who are tormented by endlessly barking dogs get no help from the ACT government at all. They are expected to keep comprehensive diaries of barking episodes for at least a month (and what kind of evidence is that, anyway). Even if they have the time and energy to do that, all that happens is that someone calls on the dog’s owner and politely asks them to do something about it.

If, as is usually the case, the owner is in denial or doesn’t give a rat’s, the whole cycle starts over again, with the same non-result. AFAIK, not a single penalty has ever been issued to the owners of incessantly barking dogs.

As I said in my earlier post, the dogs are not the problem here – it is their dickhead owners. And the ACT government has absolutely no willpower to do anything about it.

So, inevitably, at some point one of the less balanced members of the population takes matters into their own hands.

Those grieving owners of dear little deceased puppy-wuppy ought to take a long, hard look at themselves.

that is 100% spot on. back when i lived in canberra, a neighbour had a dog that barked for hours on end at all times of the day and night. this would then set off a chorus of other dogs in the neighbourhood. my partner and i were at our wits end. we couldnt enjoy any peace in our own house as it was just endless dog barking

and that is exactly what was asked for (which led to zippo!)

it’s bad to admit it, but i even had thoughts about getting rid of the dog cos i just couldnt get relief (wasnt sleeping, couldnt watch tv, could hear the dog from everywhere)

it is the fault of the owners but it’s annoying that the rest of us are forced to endure dog barking

i am sorry about your dog btw….(i was engaging in the side topic here)

Madam Cholet said :

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If DAS did their job properly these situations, where neighbours take things into their own hands just wouldn’t happen.”

Madam Cholet, What would you like to DAS to do? What could they have done to prevent this?

I’ve been through the process with DAS and it was appalling. The process they follow firmly puts the onus on the complainant to provide the evidence – which might be fine, except that DAS make zero effort to confirm your evidence like they say they will. I finally took my issue to the minister who confirmed to me that DAS was not working like it should and that there were ‘issues’. I noted not long ago that the person in charge there who emailed me personally on the number of occasions I chased them up is still there, so would guess that they still have issues.

In my case, the dog would be barking from mid-Friday afternoon (when the owner was at the pub) through to about 11pm – every week as a given. We considered ourselves lucky if it didn’t happen on other nights. Big large dog running around a corner block barking its heart out until the owner came home. This happened from the day they moved in (and locked the dog they weren’t meant to have in the rented property in the garage), until I finally had a win and he let the dog go to DAS. About 18 months, of which six we lived with it (and tried to reason with him), and the remainder was spent dealing with DAS and their rental agent (also pathetic).

He then tried to blame us.

If I could have taken the dog on myself I would have done so, but that was not an option and I am very sad that a dog may have lost it’s life because a pathetic owner would not do the right thing and actually carry out responsible dog ownership.

Where were DAS in that time? No where. We kept the diary and sent it in. They did nothing until I complained at the highest level. And even then it was a pure accident that they managed to bluff the owner into thinking that they knew there was an issue – because guess what – they never came and listened to it themsleves.

Postalgeek said :

Maybe next time you buy an Alsation. They don’t react so well to strangers kicking them.

I can respect a barking dog that would have a fair shot of eating me for dinner in a one on one, the tiny dogs that you could literally sit on and smoosh though, the same ones that like to bark incessantly at everything are a bloody nightmare.

I am not speaking on behalf of Mme Cholet, but your question is fair enough.

The reality is that people who are tormented by endlessly barking dogs get no help from the ACT government at all. They are expected to keep comprehensive diaries of barking episodes for at least a month (and what kind of evidence is that, anyway). Even if they have the time and energy to do that, all that happens is that someone calls on the dog’s owner and politely asks them to do something about it.

If, as is usually the case, the owner is in denial or doesn’t give a rat’s, the whole cycle starts over again, with the same non-result. AFAIK, not a single penalty has ever been issued to the owners of incessantly barking dogs.

As I said in my earlier post, the dogs are not the problem here – it is their dickhead owners. And the ACT government has absolutely no willpower to do anything about it.

So, inevitably, at some point one of the less balanced members of the population takes matters into their own hands.

Those grieving owners of dear little deceased puppy-wuppy ought to take a long, hard look at themselves.

Madam Cholet said :

If DAS did their job properly these situations, where neighbours take things into their own hands just wouldn’t happen.

Madam Cholet, What would you like to DAS to do? What could they have done to prevent this?

Ledanta said :

I have had a few constructive posters that have helped me to try and solve this problem, which at the end of the day, is a crime. A crime that no authorities appear to be interested in.

I don’t think it’s that the authorities are not interested it’s just without evidence what can they do? Before you criticise them, think realistically. What do you want them to do? If you were the police what would you do? Go door to door taking Fingerprint and DNA samples of everyone in your street? Take DNA swabs of every shoe owned by every neighbour to see if they match your dog? About the only reasonable thing they could do is to knock on your neighbours doors and ask if they had ‘Seen’ anything suspicious on that day. Highly unlikely to have any result though and something you could do yourself, door knock the neighbours and let them know what happened. It’s unlikely they will know anything but at least you will get know them and they will keep a look out in the future.

The police may SEEM complacent because they have nothing to go on. Other than the fact your neighbour spoke to you about your dogs barking what other evidence do you have that MAY link them?

As someone else said, it could very well have been done by a gutless turd who got frustrated but didn’t have the balls to talk to you about it.

Ledanta said :

Thanks for all of your advice.

I probably should have mentioned all of the things I have done to stop/reduce/minimise the barking. The dog went through two courses of obedience school, beginner and intermediate. The dog went to a full course of bark-busters. We have purchased two different bark deterrent collars. We have disciplined the dog with water sprays when barking.

After the neighbour confronted me in an aggressive manner, we have been keeping the dogs inside of a night time. This has stopped all of the barking at the possums. Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work.

Anyway, despite those that believe the owner needs to be kicked, I have had a few constructive posters that have helped me to try and solve this problem, which at the end of the day, is a crime. A crime that no authorities appear to be interested in.

You might have done all that but if you don’t continue to enforce what you have learnt and do it all the time then the dog is going to revert behaviour. Obedience training doesn’t do much more then teaching you to get them to behave on lead, I’m not sure what bark-busters does but I’m sure it is something that needs to continue after that training as well. Doing all this isn’t a magic fix that once you do it all your problems will be solved type of thing you have to keep at it for the dogs life.

Also imo bark deterrent collars are a joke.

If DAS did their job properly these situations, where neighbours take things into their own hands just wouldn’t happen.

Sorry OP, I forgot to say originally that I’m sorry this happened to your dog. No one should do that – to anything.

I’m conflicted on this situation. I grew up in a neighbourhood where everyone had hotted up cars and mean dogs that we’re never walked and barked all night and all day. I remember my poor father who worked shifts being at the end of his tether with the local dogs and confronting the neighbours, probably in an aggressive manner, on a number of occasions. We also had a neighbour who was terminally ill and trying to live out her days in her house but was distressed beyond description at a dog (blue cattle) which yapped like you just wouldn’t believe. That said neither of these scenarios ended in a dog being killed. But, I’m also a dog owner and am well aware of how my dogs impact on my neighbours enjoyment of their property.

Believe it or now, dogs actually can be kept inside for long periods during the day. My dogs aren’t barkers, but they do tend to get angry at the post man and kids on bikes. And maybe because I’m hyper vigilant I discipline them and bring them inside to give everyone peace. They spend the night inside and looooong periods during the day, they seem to manage without tearing the place up I just keep them confined to a space they can’t totally destroy. So it can be done.

There really is no excuse for killing a dog and it sounds like you did try to make inroads into your dogs behaviour, so I do sympathise. Maybe with future dogs give serious consideration to walking them daily to the point they are almost exhausted. To keep those beans under control.

caf said :

Well, this thread sure dragged out the psychos.

The Freemasons killed the dog.

caf said :

Well, this thread sure dragged out the psychos.

+1

Robertson said :

2. It’s just a dumb animal – some people have serious emotional problems with over-caring about this kind of stuff.

Wow. Just … wow.

I always knew you were an asshole, but this … this really is above and beyond

Ledanta said :

Thanks for all of your advice.

I probably should have mentioned all of the things I have done to stop/reduce/minimise the barking. The dog went through two courses of obedience school, beginner and intermediate. The dog went to a full course of bark-busters. We have purchased two different bark deterrent collars. We have disciplined the dog with water sprays when barking.

After the neighbour confronted me in an aggressive manner, we have been keeping the dogs inside of a night time. This has stopped all of the barking at the possums. Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work.

Anyway, despite those that believe the owner needs to be kicked, I have had a few constructive posters that have helped me to try and solve this problem, which at the end of the day, is a crime. A crime that no authorities appear to be interested in.

Thanks for the clarity, and good on you for trying to fix the problem. You are absolutely not at fault for what happened, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

I wish you all the luck in the world, and I hope your other animals remain safe.

vet111 said :

So placing value on life forms other than humans is over-caring, then?

I never said anything about not placing value on animals. $20-$30 per kilo for the nice cuts is fairly usual.

I’d say your predictions as to extinction are fairly wide of the mark – it’s quite obviously the hand-wringers who lack fitness for survival.

Robertson said :

2. It’s just a dumb animal – some people have serious emotional problems with over-caring about this kind of stuff.

YOU’RE just a dumb animal. Man’s best friend is a lot more loving and loyal than you, it seems. I hope to hell you don’t have children.

Have the possums been questioned? I dont trust those little bastards.

Maybe next time you buy an Alsation. They don’t react so well to strangers kicking them.

Ledanta said:

After the neighbour confronted me in an aggressive manner, we have been keeping the dogs inside of a night time. This has stopped all of the barking at the possums. Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work.
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You don’t get it, do you? You admit the the dog barked at night, so as a concession you took it inside. The barking while you are at work drives your neighbours mad, but “unfortunately” you can’t do anything about it. You have tried various things (I’m guessing that you are not very good at handling dogs, e.g. reinforcing behaviour) and they haven’t worked. So, they should just suck it up.

Why can’t they be inside while you are away? Could it be because they are untrained and will trash the place and pee and crap everywhere? I have family members who have had dogs who stay inside while they are out, and behave well while deterring anyone who tries to break in with loud woofing.

Do you live next door to me? (No, the details are different). But really, you are the classic gormless dog-owner who makes their neighbours’ lives a misery while claiming no responsibility. At all.

If this guy lives next door there are plenty of things you can do to get revenge. Get creative.

Thanks for all of your advice.

I probably should have mentioned all of the things I have done to stop/reduce/minimise the barking. The dog went through two courses of obedience school, beginner and intermediate. The dog went to a full course of bark-busters. We have purchased two different bark deterrent collars. We have disciplined the dog with water sprays when barking.

After the neighbour confronted me in an aggressive manner, we have been keeping the dogs inside of a night time. This has stopped all of the barking at the possums. Unfortunately, we are not able to keep the dogs inside the house while we are at work.

Anyway, despite those that believe the owner needs to be kicked, I have had a few constructive posters that have helped me to try and solve this problem, which at the end of the day, is a crime. A crime that no authorities appear to be interested in.

While there is absolutely no excuse for kicking the dog to death (if that is what happened) can I join with other Rioters in suggesting that very likely you are at least partly responsible.

I have had endless barking problems on both sides of my house over the years. On one side, when I politely raised it with the dog’s owners, they did everything possible to fix the problem. It took a while, and I had to put up with a lot of barking in the meantime, but since they were trying (and eventually succeeded) that was fine by me.

On the other side, I was fobbed off and the endless barking (I know to the minute at what time they leave in the morning, because that’s when it starts) continues. Believe me, I have had dark thoughts about doing things to the two yappers next door. But, it’s not their fault – it’s the dickhead owners who are to blame.

I am reminded of the story in the Crimes a few years ago about a guy who had four Jack Russells, described by him as “quiet family pets”, that were left alone all day while he was at work. They yapped non-stop while he was away, and several neighbours approached him about it over a long period. He refused to accept that it was a problem. Finally, someone snapped and poisoned them. Horrible, but it was his fault that it happened, IMO.

If you get another dog, you may wish to ponder on that, and your recent experience.

You know, the anti-dog neighbour has actually gone to a lot of intelligent effort to help you out with the problem. It’s probably some moron who has never said anything and just lost their temper out of nowhere.

Well, this thread sure dragged out the psychos.

Pretty sure domestic animal services investigate animal cruelty cases. Sounds like nuisance barking has caused someone to snap. No excuse for that behaviour.

Robertson said :

vet111 said :

And then what are you going to do with it? Just leave it there? Yep, that’s so much kinder…. Why wouldn’t you take it to the RSPCA or something?

Let me ask you this – if it’s ok to take your own action in this case because you don’t believe the government will do anything, where do you draw the line? Oh, sorry, I forgot – it’s just an animal, so it’s ok.

Cruelty is cruelty, regardless of how hard you try to justify it. And that’s not just directed at you, that’s everyone else saying it’s his/her fault for not stopping the barking. Just remember, it’s the dog that’s paid the ultimate price.

1. The local RSPCA will just give it back to the cruel and neglectful dog owner. The Cooma RSPCA, on the other hand, are unlikely to do so, unless somebody with ACT plates turns up and hands the dog directly to them.

2. It’s just a dumb animal – some people have serious emotional problems with over-caring about this kind of stuff.

So placing value on life forms other than humans is over-caring, then? I’m so glad the prevalence of the attitude you have demonstrated went out of fashion about 100 years ago. It’s sad that some dinosaurs like you still exist, but you will be extinct soon enough.

RedDogInCan – that’s a good strategy if people must take matters into their own hands (which I don’t agree with). Even if the owners don’t learn, better the dog be put down humanely than beaten to death like this poor bugger.

so what steps did you do to stop the dog barking when the neighbour approached you months ago? look at it from their perspective – your dog barks a lot, they ask you to do something about it, months later it’s still going. you seem to acknowledge that part of it.

Any cruelty issues aside, what did you do to try to fix the situation in the meantime.?

without anyone seeing anything, and being prepared to front up and say so, the rest is just speculation.

RedDogInCan said :

vet111 said :

Robertson said :

much better to entice it into your car with a nice juicy offcut, then take it for a drive somewhere far away.

Why wouldn’t you take it to the RSPCA or something?

Because those do-gooders just scan the dog’s microchip and contact the owner to come and collect their pet free of charge. Better to drop it off at TAMS Domestic Animal Shelter on Mugga Lane, Symonston. They even have kennels where you can drop a dog after hours – no questions asked. These best bit is that TAMS charges the owner to get their dog back. It costs $72 for the first release, $103 for the second, $155 for the third, and $310 for the forth and subsequent releases, plus $20 for each additional day impounded. After paying that a few times, delinquent owners start to get the message – especially when it only cost $46.50 to surrender the dog.

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RedDoginCan just took on a whole new meaning. Kelpie owners should watch out for this person. And those with Commiehounds.

vet111 said :

Robertson said :

much better to entice it into your car with a nice juicy offcut, then take it for a drive somewhere far away.

Why wouldn’t you take it to the RSPCA or something?

Because those do-gooders just scan the dog’s microchip and contact the owner to come and collect their pet free of charge. Better to drop it off at TAMS Domestic Animal Shelter on Mugga Lane, Symonston. They even have kennels where you can drop a dog after hours – no questions asked. These best bit is that TAMS charges the owner to get their dog back. It costs $72 for the first release, $103 for the second, $155 for the third, and $310 for the forth and subsequent releases, plus $20 for each additional day impounded. After paying that a few times, delinquent owners start to get the message – especially when it only cost $46.50 to surrender the dog.

Pity there isn’t a similar service for children.

No excuse for kicking the dog.

The owner, on the other hand…

vet111 said :

And then what are you going to do with it? Just leave it there? Yep, that’s so much kinder…. Why wouldn’t you take it to the RSPCA or something?

Let me ask you this – if it’s ok to take your own action in this case because you don’t believe the government will do anything, where do you draw the line? Oh, sorry, I forgot – it’s just an animal, so it’s ok.

Cruelty is cruelty, regardless of how hard you try to justify it. And that’s not just directed at you, that’s everyone else saying it’s his/her fault for not stopping the barking. Just remember, it’s the dog that’s paid the ultimate price.

1. The local RSPCA will just give it back to the cruel and neglectful dog owner. The Cooma RSPCA, on the other hand, are unlikely to do so, unless somebody with ACT plates turns up and hands the dog directly to them.

2. It’s just a dumb animal – some people have serious emotional problems with over-caring about this kind of stuff.

Robertson said :

People working nightshift are especially vulnerable to the results of neglectful dog owners.

The advice to “contact the proper authorities” is not very good. If the owner has been told but refuses to do anything about it, you can’t rely on the government so you need to take personal responsibility and sort it out yourself.
Kicking it to death wouldn’t be my chosen method, nor even baiting – much better to entice it into your car with a nice juicy offcut, then take it for a drive somewhere far away.

And then what are you going to do with it? Just leave it there? Yep, that’s so much kinder…. Why wouldn’t you take it to the RSPCA or something?

Let me ask you this – if it’s ok to take your own action in this case because you don’t believe the government will do anything, where do you draw the line? Oh, sorry, I forgot – it’s just an animal, so it’s ok.

Cruelty is cruelty, regardless of how hard you try to justify it. And that’s not just directed at you, that’s everyone else saying it’s his/her fault for not stopping the barking. Just remember, it’s the dog that’s paid the ultimate price.

FB said :

Zeital said :

I know this sounds bad but have you thought about why your dogs are parking so much?

Dam that’s one smart dog. I thought my sister dog was smart because it can play dead and fetch a ball but a dog that can park a car. Thats talent.

But seriously there isn’t much that can be done without evidence.

poetix said :

This is awful. I have no real suggestions about the crime aspect. At the very least the neighbours should be interviewed. Hard to believe that someone would kick a dog like that; and a real worry.

Without evidence it’ll be the shortest police invterview ever

Cop.. Did you kick your neighbours dog?
Neighbour.. Nope!
Cop.. Ok then!

Cop-out.

How about this scenario – Cop: Did you kick your neighbours dog? Neighbour: Yes, it was annoying the hell out of me. Cop: you’re nicked. Some people are that stupid, so they should at least ask.

IP

Affirmative Action Man said :

Sorry to hear about what happened to your dog but some yapping dogs can drive you to your wits end.
In the past I’ve considered shooting/poisoning/kidnapping a dog that was driving us mad from its barking but fortunately the owners & dog moved away.

Ditto. Sorry to hear about that – and I’m an animal lover – but barking really can drive you mad.

Next door neighbour had a blue heeler, always barked, never walked. Finally died of old age and neighbour flat out accused us of killing it. Quickly replaced with a labrador, which always barked and was never walked. Obviously got too much and they gave it away. Only to be replaced with a pomeranian, which always barks, is never ever walked.

People working nightshift are especially vulnerable to the results of neglectful dog owners.

The advice to “contact the proper authorities” is not very good. If the owner has been told but refuses to do anything about it, you can’t rely on the government so you need to take personal responsibility and sort it out yourself.
Kicking it to death wouldn’t be my chosen method, nor even baiting – much better to entice it into your car with a nice juicy offcut, then take it for a drive somewhere far away.

Sorry to hear about what happened to your dog but some yapping dogs can drive you to your wits end.
In the past I’ve considered shooting/poisoning/kidnapping a dog that was driving us mad from its barking but fortunately the owners & dog moved away.

Sorry to hear about your loss of your doggy friend.

I am a fellow dog owner and also a person that hates listening to neighbours dogs constantly bark during the late hours of the night.
I do not condone what someone has done to your dog, however if people had raised concerns to you about your dog, rather than lay blame at outside influences (i.e. possum), maybe you should have taken action to remedy the situation.

Zeital said :

I know this sounds bad but have you thought about why your dogs are parking so much?

Dam that’s one smart dog. I thought my sister dog was smart because it can play dead and fetch a ball but a dog that can park a car. Thats talent.

But seriously there isn’t much that can be done without evidence.

poetix said :

This is awful. I have no real suggestions about the crime aspect. At the very least the neighbours should be interviewed. Hard to believe that someone would kick a dog like that; and a real worry.

Without evidence it’ll be the shortest police invterview ever

Cop.. Did you kick your neighbours dog?
Neighbour.. Nope!
Cop.. Ok then!

Solidarity said :

Sure you can have all the evidence in the world saying that the dog was kicked, but with nothing linking the guy to the attack well… What else do you want the police etc to do? Approach the guy? What do you expect him to say?

God I hate yap yap dogs though. There is one near our house, constant yapping. Have spoken to the owner twice, nothing has changed. I’m not sure what else can be done.

I’ve written on RAS about this issue before as we went through it with a neighbour. You can deal with Animal Services for what it’s worth, although we found them next to no use, until I went to the Minister – who at the time was John Stanhope. Got sorted soon after when the neighbour gave up his dog to DAS. Probably was euthanised poor bugger, but by that stage, I was over it. We have a dog, but he has access to the house and outside during the day and spends most of his time snoozing.

We do have yappy dogs on the other side of us whose owners refuse to believe that they bark. I frequently record them using my phone in preparation for the day (possibly the next time they leave them for two weeks over Xmas), when I finally have enough. if someone played you several recordings of your dogs barking and then said they were going to take the evidence to animal services you might be more inclined to take note.

Oh I am so sorry for your loss. How awful for you to not know what happened. I hope you and your dog get some justice.

my neighbours had a dog that barked all the time they weren’t there. when they were there, they never walked it or let it inside. i couldn’t use my garage during the day because of the noise. I decided to bribe the dog with smackos. every time it barked i would stick my head over the fence and talk to it, then throw it a smacko. the barking eventually stopped. cost me about three bags of smackos. then the neighbours put an ad in the paper ‘moving overseas, dog free to good home’. well, they are still there but the dog is gone.

poetix said :

This is awful. I have no real suggestions about the crime aspect. At the very least the neighbours should be interviewed. Hard to believe that someone would kick a dog like that; and a real worry.

Perhaps you need to keep your other dog(s) inside for the moment, if that is possible.

and set up a camera in your back yard. A couple of hundred bucks from somewhere like Dick Smith. Much as I hate barking dogs (mine don’t) for someone to enter your property and kick and kill your dog is a bit over the top.

IP

This is awful. I have no real suggestions about the crime aspect. At the very least the neighbours should be interviewed. Hard to believe that someone would kick a dog like that; and a real worry.

Perhaps you need to keep your other dog(s) inside for the moment, if that is possible.

I know this sounds bad but have you thought about why your dogs are parking so much? Could the reason be as simple as they are not getting enough exercise? If they are barking all day out of boredom I can see why people would be getting annoyed with them. Don’t get me wrong I have a dog myself and I am not justifying attacking animals because that is very wrong and that person whoever they are needs help but dogs just don’t bark constantly for no reason.

Sure you can have all the evidence in the world saying that the dog was kicked, but with nothing linking the guy to the attack well… What else do you want the police etc to do? Approach the guy? What do you expect him to say?

God I hate yap yap dogs though. There is one near our house, constant yapping. Have spoken to the owner twice, nothing has changed. I’m not sure what else can be done.

First up, I’m so sorry to hear about your dog – that’s absolutely terrible.

I would consider that the document from the vet would be considered evidence – it is evidence that an incident of animal cruelty occurred, and therefore should be investigated. It may be worth speaking to the police again, or even contacting the RSPCA to see if they can offer any assistance.

I’d also like to make a comment before anyone else starts about the dog barking. Barking dogs are bloody annoying, and responsible pet owners should do everything within their power to prevent their animals being a nuisance to others (be they dogs barking, cats going in yards, roosters crowing at the crack of dawn). However, there is never an excuse for animal cruelty – if the dog barking was the reason for this vicious attack, the perpetrator should have reported it to the authorities as opposed to taking these actions. There is never any excuse for injuring a defenceless animal.

Again, my sympathies. I hope you find the bastard.

RSPCA animal cruelty? Keep going back to the cops until they are prepared to do something?