Juicing for a health Fix

Mess said :

Just checked out the website, and that is expensive juice. The 5 day cleanse works out at $7.60 per bottle. Do you get a gold bar in each box as well?

No – the entrepreneurs will be stacking up a bit though, at that price margin!

I would imagine that your insulin levels after two days of drinking juice only would be rocketing. That’s not a good thing.

Masquara said :

Their website doesn’t mention what hercanberra did in February – that they use “high pressure pascalization” on their juices. That CSIRO process extends shelf-life – by killing the enzymes and other active elements in fresh fruit juice.

I wondered about that, as juicing advocates recommend drinking your juice within 24 hours.

miz said :

the person had no energy because she was malnourished.

What do you think she is in carnie food that can help someone who just plain isn’t eating enough?

I know fat vegans, skinny vegans, and even vegans who can’t stop eating and can’t put on a scrap of weight because they are so energetic that they won’t stop moving.

People also become “vegans” with the intention of losing weight or “cleansing” their body. If someone is so obsessed with “correct” eating that they actually don’t eat enough and end up malnourished, it’s an eating disorder called orthorexia.

The definition of eating properly includes any vegetarian diet, as most dietetic associations consider them to be perfectly healthy if they are properly balanced, healthier than most actually, as vegans tend to eat very low fat.

Or your friend might just have been stressed, working too hard or not sleeping enough. Everyone becomes an expert in nutrition when they meet a vegan.

astrojax, the point is, the person had no energy because she was malnourished and was maxing out on coke in the hope that the caffeine would help.

Their website doesn’t mention what hercanberra did in February – that they use “high pressure pascalization” on their juices. That CSIRO process extends shelf-life – by killing the enzymes and other active elements in fresh fruit juice.

Just checked out the website, and that is expensive juice. The 5 day cleanse works out at $7.60 per bottle. Do you get a gold bar in each box as well?

miz said :

Anecdotally, the vegans I have known have been the most unhealthy I have ever met – one in particular, who drank diet coke all day, her hair was falling out and she kept having to get vitamin injections. The vegan diet is completely unnatural for humans.

um, someone drinks coke all day and you want to blame veganism as a lived philosophy for their poor health? um, ok… carry on then.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

JessicaGlitter said :

People like to talk about fruit and vegetables causing diabetes but vegans do a lot of juicing and eat a lot of fruit and veggies, and our diabetes statistics are quite favourable.

They are now speculating that you can eat as much sugar as you like, as long as you aren’t doing it when there is a lot of oil in your blood to prevent its metabolism. I read a whole thing about it but my biochemistry-fu is weak. I’d have to reread it all to explain it all, but the low fat intake of vegans is understood to be the most important reason for many of our lowered health risks.

Anyway the idea with juices for most people is that we just aren’t eating enough fruit and veggies. Obviously eating enough fruit and veggies is option #1 but using juices and powders to add vitamins is fine as long as your calories remain around parity. Taking a multivitamin pill is OK too.

The other reason to juice is that some people eat almost all their food raw and some form of processing is necessary to get enough calories.

I make juices when I have veggies I want to use but I can’t think of anything interesting to cook with them. We stir through a bit of spirulina or other add-ons depending on what we need. I take a B12 supplement and probiotic too.

If anyone is curious, have a look at the 80/10/10, raw vegan, fruitarian and natural hygiene lifestyles. Raw til 4 is usually the most sustainable and popular option, where you eat fruit, (water based) smoothies and salad during the day and a low fat vegan meal for dinner. The communities are full of amateur naturopaths making crap up all day, but the diet is very healthy regardless of the woo.

Vegetables don’t cause diabetes, at least not to my knowledge. Even juiced vegetables are fine, because the majority of them (with a couple of obvious exceptions) are mainly fibre and water and contain very carbohydrate or simple sugar. My big weight loss kick many years ago was based around eating lots of vegetables, some fruit, some meat, some dairy, and limited grains and sugars.

Eating juiced fruit allows someone to get lots of flavour and sugar without as much fibre (especially the un-pulpy juices) or effort in digestion.

I would expect that it would be very hard to have a health problem caused by fruit or veg if you consume them in their natural state, or even cooked simply. I for one have noticed that when I eat lots of fruit and veg (and avoid carb heavy, fatty and processed foods) I seem to get healthier, happier and slimmer.

If people want to juice their vegetables because it’s the main way they consume them, and add a bit of fruit to sweeten it I don’t think it’s a problem. Living off fruit juice (especially highly processed stuff) could be a recipe for problems though.

…very LITTLE carbohydrate…

JessicaGlitter said :

People like to talk about fruit and vegetables causing diabetes but vegans do a lot of juicing and eat a lot of fruit and veggies, and our diabetes statistics are quite favourable.

They are now speculating that you can eat as much sugar as you like, as long as you aren’t doing it when there is a lot of oil in your blood to prevent its metabolism. I read a whole thing about it but my biochemistry-fu is weak. I’d have to reread it all to explain it all, but the low fat intake of vegans is understood to be the most important reason for many of our lowered health risks.

Anyway the idea with juices for most people is that we just aren’t eating enough fruit and veggies. Obviously eating enough fruit and veggies is option #1 but using juices and powders to add vitamins is fine as long as your calories remain around parity. Taking a multivitamin pill is OK too.

The other reason to juice is that some people eat almost all their food raw and some form of processing is necessary to get enough calories.

I make juices when I have veggies I want to use but I can’t think of anything interesting to cook with them. We stir through a bit of spirulina or other add-ons depending on what we need. I take a B12 supplement and probiotic too.

If anyone is curious, have a look at the 80/10/10, raw vegan, fruitarian and natural hygiene lifestyles. Raw til 4 is usually the most sustainable and popular option, where you eat fruit, (water based) smoothies and salad during the day and a low fat vegan meal for dinner. The communities are full of amateur naturopaths making crap up all day, but the diet is very healthy regardless of the woo.

Vegetables don’t cause diabetes, at least not to my knowledge. Even juiced vegetables are fine, because the majority of them (with a couple of obvious exceptions) are mainly fibre and water and contain very carbohydrate or simple sugar. My big weight loss kick many years ago was based around eating lots of vegetables, some fruit, some meat, some dairy, and limited grains and sugars.

Eating juiced fruit allows someone to get lots of flavour and sugar without as much fibre (especially the un-pulpy juices) or effort in digestion.

I would expect that it would be very hard to have a health problem caused by fruit or veg if you consume them in their natural state, or even cooked simply. I for one have noticed that when I eat lots of fruit and veg (and avoid carb heavy, fatty and processed foods) I seem to get healthier, happier and slimmer.

If people want to juice their vegetables because it’s the main way they consume them, and add a bit of fruit to sweeten it I don’t think it’s a problem. Living off fruit juice (especially highly processed stuff) could be a recipe for problems though.