25 February 2016

Calls for ban on Dutch pancakes, chips on sticks at Multicultural Festival

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A Change.org petition is calling on the ACT Government to ban the popular Dutch pancake and chips on sticks stalls at the National Multicultural Festival.

The petition, created by Matthew Archer, argues on its Change.org page that the stalls should go not because of their lack of nutritional value, nor because they’re readily available throughout the year elsewhere (and in the case of chips on a stick, not in keeping with the multicultural theme), but because their queues are too long.

Archer writes that the event celebrates the “multicultural foundations of our great country, however there are certain elements that dampen the atmosphere of the event.”

“Chips on a Stick and Dutch Pancakes are two of the most popular stalls, and are overcrowding the festival with multiple sites, and lines as long as fifty metres,” he adds.

“These lines inhibit crowd movement, causing dangerous bottlenecks on the festival site that pose a serious safety risk to all patrons.

“I propose that these two stalls be removed from the multicultural festival in years to come, in order to facilitate crowd movement and safety, as well as to help patrons step out of their comfort zone and embrace other cultures they may not have encountered, which previously might not have been visible through the huge crowds of people blocking the frontage of other stalls while waiting for their Dutch pancakes.”

Reactions on the Change.org site and the small number of supporters who have signed the petition to date (16 when we last checked) would indicate he will not receive enough support to be taken seriously by the government (or anyone else for that matter). That’s if he is indeed wanting to be taken seriously and it’s not just a wind-up.

“Chip on a stick is one of the most reactionary foods since smashed avocado with quinoa risotto,” writes Dylan Clements on the petition page

“Dutch pancakes are a confusing size,” adds Joseph Buckmaster.

“Garema Place is chocked by pancake (dutch) like a person who is also chocked [sic] on a dutch pancake (OH&S risk), blocking the flow of the oesophagus (multiculturalism) into our belly (Canberra)” says Leon Twardy.

RiotACT tends to agree with Steven Pennington, who writes: “I’m signing this because culture isn’t just white carbs and fats.”

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Why is this festival held when it is so hot. Would be so much more pleasant if held in autumn.

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

You and I call them (potato) scallops but I deliberately referred to them as “potato cakes” for the benefit of the majority of our pro-Victorian leaders of our bush capital.

I don’t think anybody should be afforded that benefit – the more they hear the grown-ups talking sensibly, the sooner they too will pick up the habit.

Enough of this Sydney linguistic imperialism! It’s potato cakes, and that’s all there is to it!!!!!!!!!

I’d have written this in green ink, but I haven’t figured out how.

dungfungus said :

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

I wonder if the multi-cultural festivals in other countries have food stalls selling Australian food like chiko rolls, battered savs, potato cakes, bacon and egg rolls (probably banned in Europe by now) etc.

I doubt Europe will ever develop a need for Chiko rolls, but one thing that is sorely lacking is the meat pie. I don’t think anywhere in Europe or Britain has anything as good as an aussie meat pie.

Also, we don’t have “potato cakes”: that’s the limp-sounding name assigned to them in England. The Australian version is the manly-sounding “potato scallop”.

Personally, I find a lot of the food at the multicultural festival is either
– stuff you can get in the shops any day of the week
– awful carny fare (eg, the infamous chip-on-a-stick)
– dodgy-looking stuff brought into civic in big pots in the back of a rusty stationwagon.

Bottom line is this: eating chip-on-a-stick might be a sign of a complete lack of imagination, it’s also the thing least likely to give you food poisoning.

You and I call them (potato) scallops but I deliberately referred to them as “potato cakes” for the benefit of the majority of our pro-Victorian leaders of our bush capital.
From Merimbula south they are called “potato cakes” and the further south you go the more bland they are.
I agree totally with you other comments on this thread.

Jeez, those Victorians will drive a long way for a decent beach. 🙂

dungfungus said :

You and I call them (potato) scallops but I deliberately referred to them as “potato cakes” for the benefit of the majority of our pro-Victorian leaders of our bush capital.

I don’t think anybody should be afforded that benefit – the more they hear the grown-ups talking sensibly, the sooner they too will pick up the habit.

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

I wonder if the multi-cultural festivals in other countries have food stalls selling Australian food like chiko rolls, battered savs, potato cakes, bacon and egg rolls (probably banned in Europe by now) etc.

I doubt Europe will ever develop a need for Chiko rolls, but one thing that is sorely lacking is the meat pie. I don’t think anywhere in Europe or Britain has anything as good as an aussie meat pie.

Also, we don’t have “potato cakes”: that’s the limp-sounding name assigned to them in England. The Australian version is the manly-sounding “potato scallop”.

Personally, I find a lot of the food at the multicultural festival is either
– stuff you can get in the shops any day of the week
– awful carny fare (eg, the infamous chip-on-a-stick)
– dodgy-looking stuff brought into civic in big pots in the back of a rusty stationwagon.

Bottom line is this: eating chip-on-a-stick might be a sign of a complete lack of imagination, it’s also the thing least likely to give you food poisoning.

You and I call them (potato) scallops but I deliberately referred to them as “potato cakes” for the benefit of the majority of our pro-Victorian leaders of our bush capital.
From Merimbula south they are called “potato cakes” and the further south you go the more bland they are.
I agree totally with you other comments on this thread.

dungfungus said :

I wonder if the multi-cultural festivals in other countries have food stalls selling Australian food like chiko rolls, battered savs, potato cakes, bacon and egg rolls (probably banned in Europe by now) etc.

I doubt Europe will ever develop a need for Chiko rolls, but one thing that is sorely lacking is the meat pie. I don’t think anywhere in Europe or Britain has anything as good as an aussie meat pie.

Also, we don’t have “potato cakes”: that’s the limp-sounding name assigned to them in England. The Australian version is the manly-sounding “potato scallop”.

Personally, I find a lot of the food at the multicultural festival is either
– stuff you can get in the shops any day of the week
– awful carny fare (eg, the infamous chip-on-a-stick)
– dodgy-looking stuff brought into civic in big pots in the back of a rusty stationwagon.

Bottom line is this: eating chip-on-a-stick might be a sign of a complete lack of imagination, it’s also the thing least likely to give you food poisoning.

Velianth said :

YES! A thousand times yes! Who thought it would be a good idea to cram the festival in to the centre of Civic, in a pokey little plaza in front of a major shopping centre that is full of random objects? 😐 On top of that you have displays on the roads which serves to both impede traffic and risk the safety of the participants at the same time (eg: I encountered dancers last year on London Circuit; there were no protections for them, not even a single policeman or plastic barrier. One moment of inattention could have led to awful consequences), as well as hordes of pedestrians crossing the road.

In my opinion the only petitions that should be circulating (serious or not) at the moment is moving the venue somewhere that doesn’t clog the city infrastructure and provides a greater level of safety for the participants. I’m reasonably sure that EPIC, for example, would be a much better option. If it can support the Canberra Show and the National Folk Festival, it should be more than capable of supporting the Multicultural Festival.

Would the great informal plaza in Barton where Hustle and Scout are run perhaps work, between John McEwen Crescent and National Circuit, next to that weird new carpark/hotel building?

Masquara said :

Let’s be thankful for small mercies. At least no-one has claimed to be offended by the inclusion of pork on some stalls.

Was it “pulled”?

paservank said :

Dear Mr Archer,

It appears that some a**hole is signing your name to stupid petitions.

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/02/regarding-your-stupid-complaint.html

Thank you Paservank. That gave me a good chuckle which I need at the moment as I’v picked up a dose of the flu.

Perhaps next year they should move the festival to Glebe park as practice for Floriade.

Dear Mr Archer,

It appears that some a**hole is signing your name to stupid petitions.

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/02/regarding-your-stupid-complaint.html

Let’s be thankful for small mercies. At least no-one has claimed to be offended by the inclusion of pork on some stalls.

Blen_Carmichael said :

Some quality trolling there I think

I would love to think that this was trolling, but knowing some of the people in the ACT, I just can’t be sure. lol

bd84 said :

The whole event inhibits crowd movement because it’s poorly planned, jammed into a small space with random obstacles everywhere, no crowd control or barriers etc. It needs to be moved to a more appropriate location before someone gets hurt and/or killed from falling over and getting trampled.

YES! A thousand times yes! Who thought it would be a good idea to cram the festival in to the centre of Civic, in a pokey little plaza in front of a major shopping centre that is full of random objects? 😐 On top of that you have displays on the roads which serves to both impede traffic and risk the safety of the participants at the same time (eg: I encountered dancers last year on London Circuit; there were no protections for them, not even a single policeman or plastic barrier. One moment of inattention could have led to awful consequences), as well as hordes of pedestrians crossing the road.

In my opinion the only petitions that should be circulating (serious or not) at the moment is moving the venue somewhere that doesn’t clog the city infrastructure and provides a greater level of safety for the participants. I’m reasonably sure that EPIC, for example, would be a much better option. If it can support the Canberra Show and the National Folk Festival, it should be more than capable of supporting the Multicultural Festival.

Crazed_Loner4:46 pm 18 Feb 16

This dingbat has it the wrong way around. I saw heaps of people of different non-European ethnic backgrounds – Middle Eastern, Indian, African and Asian – all thoroughly enjoying chips-on-a stick.

Chips-on-a stick is the true multicultural food!

The word is ‘choked’…not ‘chocked’.

Charlotte Harper11:39 am 19 Feb 16

Yep. I left it spelt as the author had it on the Change.org site because it was a direct quote. I’ve now added a [sic] to make that clear, thanks.

pink little birdie11:13 am 18 Feb 16

Apsara said :

They’ve got it all wrong.

The Canberran way is simply a matter of economics. INCREASE the amount of chip on a stick and dutch pancake stalls – and flood the market. No queues that way because customers evenly spread out to the different stalls. Then create a licence to sell these items and have govt regulate the market. Then tax the buggery out of the stall holders for having such great food. This will then dissuade any stall owners from ever investing in potatoes or pancakes. Simple!

There were at least 2 that I counted.

I’m looking forward to the Canberra show to have my “chip on a stick” I think they are delicious but there are much more interesting things to try at the multicultural festival so I don’t get “chip on a stick” there.
A lot of the food at the multicultural festival is much harder to get than dutch pancakes and “chip on a stick” which are at every major event now.

Having done more than my share of stalls at school fetes and other social fundraisers, I can attest that getting anything “different” doesn’t even cross the minds of attendees.

Nor in most cases do the words “please” and thank you”.

Crazy notions of what is “authentic” and “healthy” contribute to the bland generic food. You see the same sausages, kebabs and fries everywhere because the stalls give up on a public who pay way over the top without caring what they put in their mouths. Why bother fighting it?

They’ve got it all wrong.

The Canberran way is simply a matter of economics. INCREASE the amount of chip on a stick and dutch pancake stalls – and flood the market. No queues that way because customers evenly spread out to the different stalls. Then create a licence to sell these items and have govt regulate the market. Then tax the buggery out of the stall holders for having such great food. This will then dissuade any stall owners from ever investing in potatoes or pancakes. Simple!

Maya123 said :

dungfungus said :

HiddenDragon said :

At first I thought this was just another subtly coded Leftist attack on Andrew Bolt, but then I remembered that Dutch pancakes are well known for their predations against endangered native comestibles – so yes, ban ’em!

Oh yeah, Bolt is a tulip muncher isn’t he.
Funny that when I visited Holland I never saw “Dutch Pancakes” on the menu anywhere.
Similarly, in Germany I never saw “German Sausage and Sauerkraut” either.
In both countries there were plenty of Irish Pubs and Italian restaurants though.
Must have been the cultural cringe at work.

From memory the sausage and sauerkraut I had in Germany wasn’t called “German Sausage and Sauerkraut”, but it was plentifully available as a cheap take away type food. Sort of like hot dog, but with a brown coloured sausage rather than red, and sauerkraut. I think mustard was involved too.

I wonder if the multi-cultural festivals in other countries have food stalls selling Australian food like chiko rolls, battered savs, potato cakes, bacon and egg rolls (probably banned in Europe by now) etc.

dungfungus said :

HiddenDragon said :

At first I thought this was just another subtly coded Leftist attack on Andrew Bolt, but then I remembered that Dutch pancakes are well known for their predations against endangered native comestibles – so yes, ban ’em!

Oh yeah, Bolt is a tulip muncher isn’t he.
Funny that when I visited Holland I never saw “Dutch Pancakes” on the menu anywhere.
Similarly, in Germany I never saw “German Sausage and Sauerkraut” either.
In both countries there were plenty of Irish Pubs and Italian restaurants though.
Must have been the cultural cringe at work.

From memory the sausage and sauerkraut I had in Germany wasn’t called “German Sausage and Sauerkraut”, but it was plentifully available as a cheap take away type food. Sort of like hot dog, but with a brown coloured sausage rather than red, and sauerkraut. I think mustard was involved too.

Ghettosmurf879:03 am 17 Feb 16

dungfungus said :

bd84 said :

The whole event inhibits crowd movement because it’s poorly planned, jammed into a small space with random obstacles everywhere, no crowd control or barriers etc. It needs to be moved to a more appropriate location before someone gets hurt and/or killed from falling over and getting trampled.

Manuka Oval?
It would give a good vibe to Barr’s latest thought bubble to re-develop that one time sporting precinct into (you guessed it), apartments.

Are you misrepresenting the facts again Dungfungus? I am assuming you are referring to this? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-17/gws-giants-grocon-propose-800m-revamp-of-manuka-oval/7175132?section=sport

An unsolicited proposal by the GWS Giants and developer Grocon for the redevelopment of both the oval, to increase capacity, covered seating and facilities and the surrounding precinct (part of which is apartments already anyway). The redevelopment of the surrounding precinct would generate the funds that would pay for the oval redevelopment. I think it sounds like a marvellous idea, but don’t believe it has any chance of occurring if the years long protests against a few stadium lights is anything to go by. There will be a vocal minority who oppose any and all development that doesn’t directly benefit them. I am sometimes surprised that they allowed cars on their roads and electricity into their houses.

bd84 said :

The whole event inhibits crowd movement because it’s poorly planned, jammed into a small space with random obstacles everywhere, no crowd control or barriers etc. It needs to be moved to a more appropriate location before someone gets hurt and/or killed from falling over and getting trampled.

Manuka Oval?
It would give a good vibe to Barr’s latest thought bubble to re-develop that one time sporting precinct into (you guessed it), apartments.

Charlotte Harper said :

Hmmmm. So still a recent junk food thing rather than a traditional Korean snack, but perhaps gives it some multicultural cred http://boingboing.net/2007/09/27/spiralcut-fried-whol.html

South Koreans are required to stick to “traditional” foods to be “authentic”? Surely you aren’t saying that! If you adopt that approach, potatoes aren’t a “traditional” food for the Irish! And tea isn’t a traditional English drink. And of course you have to be Chinese to “authentically” drink orange juice! : )

Charlotte Harper7:43 am 17 Feb 16

South Koreans can eat what they like, but I reckon Multicultural Festival foods should reflect longer-held traditions of the peoples represented than fast food invented circa 2007. Also, I didn’t see any South Korean people or flags behind the chips on a stick stalls. They were probably elsewhere serving kimchi.

Charlotte Harper said :

That’s interesting! Do you remember where you read it?

To be honest: high up on the google hits! : )

Charlotte Harper9:58 pm 16 Feb 16

Hmmmm. So still a recent junk food thing rather than a traditional Korean snack, but perhaps gives it some multicultural cred http://boingboing.net/2007/09/27/spiralcut-fried-whol.html

Charlotte Harper said :

If chips on a stick are white people food, white people are doomed. Re the “how bad the other food tastes”, most of the 280,000 people who came out to eat it at the Festival this year would disagree with you, me included.

I read that chips on a stick originated in South Korea …

Charlotte Harper9:14 pm 16 Feb 16

That’s interesting! Do you remember where you read it?

wildturkeycanoe said :

I think I’ll start a petition to have this petition vetoed. Talk about a pathetic reason to ban something, because it is too good. If people can’t form queues and wait patiently in line, give room for passers by and do it without resorting to pedestrian rage, then the world has “gone to hell in a handbag”. [Sorry if that expression is wrong]
Is this perhaps the reason our traffic is so bad to drive in? That’s irrelevant anyway. The request is ludicrous and without real merit. Let them queue. Next we’ll be banning fireworks, sporting and other popular events for the same reason [long queues, traffic being blocked etc.]

I think I’ll start a petition to have people who don’t understand satire banned from banning petitions.

we can’t have white people food at a ethnic festival can we. It shows up how bad the other food tastes.

Charlotte Harper9:05 pm 16 Feb 16

If chips on a stick are white people food, white people are doomed. Re the “how bad the other food tastes”, most of the 280,000 people who came out to eat it at the Festival this year would disagree with you, me included.

Masquara said :

Blen_Carmichael said :

Some quality trolling there I think

Ya RECKON???? : )

wildturkeycanoe doesnt reckon

bd84 said :

The whole event inhibits crowd movement because it’s poorly planned, jammed into a small space with random obstacles everywhere, no crowd control or barriers etc. It needs to be moved to a more appropriate location before someone gets hurt and/or killed from falling over and getting trampled.

It needs some shipping containers added.

HiddenDragon said :

At first I thought this was just another subtly coded Leftist attack on Andrew Bolt, but then I remembered that Dutch pancakes are well known for their predations against endangered native comestibles – so yes, ban ’em!

Oh yeah, Bolt is a tulip muncher isn’t he.
Funny that when I visited Holland I never saw “Dutch Pancakes” on the menu anywhere.
Similarly, in Germany I never saw “German Sausage and Sauerkraut” either.
In both countries there were plenty of Irish Pubs and Italian restaurants though.
Must have been the cultural cringe at work.

At the Taste Of Tasmania festival, the most consistently popular stall, and the one with the longest queues, is the fish and chip stall. The fish and chip stall I might add from the fish and chip shop sited only a couple of hundred metres or so from the festival location and open all year round.

I don’t understand it either.

wildturkeycanoe7:11 pm 15 Feb 16

I think I’ll start a petition to have this petition vetoed. Talk about a pathetic reason to ban something, because it is too good. If people can’t form queues and wait patiently in line, give room for passers by and do it without resorting to pedestrian rage, then the world has “gone to hell in a handbag”. [Sorry if that expression is wrong]
Is this perhaps the reason our traffic is so bad to drive in? That’s irrelevant anyway. The request is ludicrous and without real merit. Let them queue. Next we’ll be banning fireworks, sporting and other popular events for the same reason [long queues, traffic being blocked etc.]

HiddenDragon6:45 pm 15 Feb 16

At first I thought this was just another subtly coded Leftist attack on Andrew Bolt, but then I remembered that Dutch pancakes are well known for their predations against endangered native comestibles – so yes, ban ’em!

The whole event inhibits crowd movement because it’s poorly planned, jammed into a small space with random obstacles everywhere, no crowd control or barriers etc. It needs to be moved to a more appropriate location before someone gets hurt and/or killed from falling over and getting trampled.

Blen_Carmichael said :

Some quality trolling there I think

Ya RECKON???? : )

Well I dip my lid to Riot. I had never heard of chip on a stick until now. Being deep fried it has to be good. Well you know bad apparently, but good, delicious.

Do the Scots have a stall. Am told they make a mean deep fried Mars bar.

Are chip on a stick knocked up anywhere down in the south ?

PS I do like the bit where the lines were so long at these 2 unsuitable sites. I think its called patrons making a choice.

Blen_Carmichael1:08 pm 15 Feb 16

Some quality trolling there I think

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