Sign Wars II - Whoops

See bonfire, this is where you seem to be having a hard time getting into step with a lot of the other people here. You seem to be of the opinion that anything painted with a spray can is graffiti, and therefore couldn’t possibly be art.

I doubt anyone here is in support of mindless tagging, such as that which now adorns a certain bridge now that a nice clear space has been provided.

However, take a look at the pic in the recent “Art as Advertising” thread. The advertising link aside, do you see absolutely no artistic merit in that particular piece?

If it doesn’t measure up to your personal standards of public art, does that mean it has no right to exist? As mentioned earlier, if I was to take a sledgehammer to one of the brickwork sculptures around town, simply because as far as I was concerned it looked like a builder’s dumping site, would that be justified?

And I challenge you to come up with a chimp that could recreate the art that was destroyed by Pratt.

“how anyone would consider spraypaint vandalism to be an art form continues to puzzle me”

It’s quite simple, if it’s been commissioned as public art and is on a public art register then it’s public art.

im not an art critic, but i can recognise competent art.

ive stood in front of blue poles for ten, twenty minutes etc several times trying to pick out patterns and repeated themes etc.

its not the disordered mess it appears to be prima facie.

i dont mind it, but i wouldnt buy anything like it.

even if i had that sort of money.

but i also wouldnt have got upset in 1975 or whenever it was purchased.

however

how anyone would consider spraypaint vandalism to be an art form continues to puzzle me. all of the wonderful examples the softhead supporters in canberra seem so ra ra about look to be highly derivative of another culture with no resemblance to ours and mostly childlike.

give a chimp the spraycan and see what it comes up with. a comparison between the two would be hard to differentiate.

Hey bonfire, while you’re here, I’m still keen to hear what your informed opinion is on the work of Jackson Pollock?

And I’m glad to see that you put ‘cleaning up’ in inverted commas, meaning that even you don’t believe that that’s what he was doing. 🙂

it must be a full moon.

pratt was ‘cleaning up’ vandalism.

while the graffiti supporters and their solvent affected ilk are no doubt flogging themselves raw over this, why dont they look at the bigger picture – pratt has bought the issue of graffiti vandals to the fore.

i saw stanhope joking about bruford on the news last night.

the local alp are happy for vandalism to occur – its part of their campaign to run the city down to match other socialist utopias.

Make a stencil saying “This vandalism endorsed by Pratt”

Since Pratty’s still refusing to acknowledge any wrongdoing, I guess that means in his opinion it’s open slather on any public artwork.

Don’t like those brick sculptures featured in another thread? Go ahead, take a sledgehammer to ’em. Pratty says it’s okay.

You’re a staunch republican and find statues of the queen in public places offensive? A 4WD and a tow cable should do the trick. Pratty says it’s okay.

You’re a pacifist who finds statues of war heroes offensive? Blow ’em up. Pratty says it’s okay.

Any billboards around town that you don’t like for ANY reason? Rip ’em down. Pratty says it’s okay.

Yes folks, feel free to take the law into your own hands on anything to do with public exhibition. ‘Cause remember, it it doesn’t meet your standards of “taste”, it’s okay to trash it. Pratty says so.

It’s backfired even more now with the coverage that it has received. It’s a dream for a graffiti writer to get a spot that’s going to be in the news, and somebody has now tagged all over the spot, it’s in today’s Canberra Times.

Good one Pratt, by scrubbing off a legitimate artwork and bringing the media to the party, you have actually created MORE vandalism in the area.

“bonfire, look: graffiti is cool, and you’re a fool. stay in school.”

How about
Pratt is a fool
for not checking with the law school
to see if the picture was cool
Now he’s a tool
standing on his moral stool
who’ll hopefully end up standing in front of a judges rule.

There’s an apalling misuse of the english language on both sides of the argument here.

If a work is commissioned, it is therefore NOT graffiti – graffiti is, by its english language definition, art not sanctioned by the person who owns the wall on which it is painted.

Yes, it may use spraycans to do it. Still doesn’t make it graffiti. People who like it – please don’t call it “graffiti art” – you’re just giving Bonfire fuel for his stupidity.

Nemo – do you object to every single piece of public art (sculptures, frescos, nice tile arrangements on the floor)? Because otherwise, you’re talking complete bollocks.

The problem with grafitti of this kind is that I dont have a choice whether I want to see it – its in a public space.

If I dont want to see a picasso painting, I just dont go to the art gallery, or if I dont like the tapestry at parliament house – i wont visit the great hall.

If Grafitti artists had their own ‘gallery’ where those who admire it, could, without disturbing those who dont – perhaps it would be accepted as a legitimate artform rather than vandalism.
Until that time – continue the cleaning.

It’s not the first time an idiotic attention-grabbing political stunt has gone wrong (remember someone getting her young daughter to buy, what was it, booze, fags, porn or something). It’s what you get in an Assembly (mostly) full of people who couldn’t get a proper job like cleaning windscreens.

Damn italics.

Just a friendly heads up Bonfire – comments such as this “you can normally identify the ‘artists’ they have silver paint around their nostrils and mouth.” totally negate anything rational that you may or may not have had to say.

We are arguing “pro” rationally – why cant you reflect that in your “against” argument.

Taking it to the level you are is just juvenile and reminds me of schoolyard sticks and stones era circa 1986.

If your going to debate a point – keep it factual – insults and personal agenda need not appear.

Remember its the legality we are discussing – not any individuals definition of art/not art.

I’ve just got to post again to say how seriously damn angry I am about Pratt not apologising and paying immediately. That worthless sack of crap. How DARE he?

bonfire, look: graffiti is cool, and you’re a fool. stay in school.

“Until that point, Prat was just wiping out graffiti.”

Not really following your logic there. Whether the guys who commissioned it make a complaint or not, the artwork in question would still be legally deemed an artwork.

bonfire – so, what’s your opinion of Jackson Pollock?

late breaking news, bonfire only ever talks shit.

If the legally commissioned art was defaced, then the organisation should take matters into their own hands and contact the police to lay a complaint / initiate legal proceedings.

Until that point, Prat was just wiping out graffiti.

If they do not contest it in court, or do not get acknowledgement by the Prat that it was anything otherwise, then it will remain graffiti.

your talking shit again bonfire

cease.

the only reason these walls (such as the mentioned pre-school) are daubed with these artless and juvenile daubings, is that the ‘artists’ would vandalise them anyway.

they cant help themselves. they lack any sort of internal self censor or self control.

they see an empty wall on private property or public property and within days an ‘artist’ has daubed one of their paint wasting tiresome daubings.

wally walpamur could do it better.

steve pratt of course is an easy target for these moronic people. he has never subtly threatened a property owner that unless they pay for a vandal to daub on their walls it will be vandalised.

the govt should be tracking down these blackmailers, not pandering to addle brained dole paid ‘artists’ and their softhead ilk.

you can normally identify the ‘artists’ they have silver paint around their nostrils and mouth.

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is that art?

‘eastberlinerwodenplatz’- that’s hilarious! Difference is that they generally embrace all forms of ‘graffiti-art’ in Berlin…

even the australian’s insightful ‘strewth’ column is onto this: [pasted therefrom]

He knows what he likes

ACT Legislative Assembly member Steve Pratt hates the graffiti in Canberra. Last Saturday, the Liberal politician took matters into his own hands, snapping on rubber gloves and issuing a press release inviting local media to watch him whitewash “the most obnoxious pieces of graffiti” he could find. After four hours’ hard slog scrubbing a wall in suburban Woden, the offending paint had been erased. The crusading Pratt says the stunt highlighted the ACT Government’s indifference to the graffiti problem. But the local golf club, which commissioned the mural from a local artist, says Pratt vandalised artwork that cost the club about $3000. Police are investigating at the request of Chief Minister Jon Stanhope.

and west kambah 4eva,
“Weren’t you talking about roman floor mosiacs? They were earlier than the 80s,..”

man, get real. it WAS the 80’s. 80AD, that is!! [gets coat…]

Just a heads up I am not Dan The Man…..

But the frisbee golf thing makes sence –

Canberra has a formal 9 hole disc golf course (one of only a handful in the country), located at Eddison Park in Woden.

More about that Here!!

bonfire – “jump the shark” – man, you’re so clever and witty and pithy…

he’s not speaking for me either, or any of the people I know. What a total tard, I can’t believe he won’t just man up and apologise for being stupid, he’s trying to stick to his guns and is actually proposing to remove more graffiti at the same location! The audacity of this c*nt is astounding..

Re the CT article: “community-minded actions”, “bold move”… This guy sounds like a bit of a Pratt fan. Oh, and Pratt and bonfire aside, who is “the community” saying that all the graffiti art has to go? Pratt certainly isn’t speaking for me.

From the story in today’s Crimes: “The original picture allegedly removed by Mr Pratt who is the Deputy Speaker of the ACT Assembly was painted by a local graffiti artist affectionately known as “Dan the man” and featured a man playing disc or frisbee golf.”

Is there perhaps something you haven’t told us Danman?

now that is a fantastic idea stung …infact would be great punishment… chain him to a tree or a clothes line and make him watch as his house gets a nice huge grafitti mural.

hope somebody tags his back fence…

Be in today’s edition I’m guessing, it broke late on tuesday night

Isn’t it strange that the Canberra Times does not seem to have picked this story up – I don’t understand….

“It was a legal piece of work – it was defaced illegally – by a politician – Thats the facts.”

And the facts are all that matters.

Yes – That is the biggest problem in the current political system –

Look at Slowhope – He caused a helicopter to cash in front of a camera just so he could save the pilot. (Not quite sure how though) – Perhaps his technique could be used by the terrorists – Oh No – I have provided the start of a terrorism plan, and have to hand myself into the media outlet for sentencing.

Pratsicles – Got himself ‘kidnapped’ – Cool

And look at the great sporting heroes who are govmut ministers – Wow!

And, what actual, measurable, validatable skills to these morons have to be able to make some decisions? And let’s not talk about their lowly paid ‘advisors’ All originally APS2’s (inducted via the old public service test) who have successfully not resigned, and have trickled up to the esteemed ranks of EL2 via the ‘Peter Principle’

Let’s introduce voter registration, based on the ability to choose based on something more tangeable than ‘I saw him on CNN’, or ‘My grandmum voted labor – My mum voted labor – so I’ll vote labor’

^%$#%$#%# stupid sheep.

AARRGGH!!!!

not talented or artistic at all

I mena look no skill what so ever – even ole bonny bonfire could wack one of these up in a second.

I think Bonfire IS Steve Pratt.

And yes – he looked like a total twit on National Ten News. And still has no intention of apologising.

Unfortunately Canberrans seem to vote people in on name recognition alone, so he will probably do well out of this in the end.

hehehehe bonfire i just realised the irony of you banging on about roman art. i suppose you know where the original graffiti is? you’ve probably seen it in your cultural travels, and admired it. hehehehe.

the “local sporting club” is the Disc Golf club, the frisbee golf club that uses the frisbee golf course in that area. the artwork was of a boy throwing a disc into a frisbee golf hole. how very very offensive. definitely needed to be removed. i’m really cranky about the removal of this artwork, because it brightened up my drive into work every day. i loved that part of the gross eastberlinerwodenplatz concrete was finally brightened up a bit. who cares if it ticked every box to qualify for “art” or not. it was a well produced, inoffensive and jolly piece of community supported art. nice work pratt. thanks for making canberra that little bit more boring.

Are you people insane?
It’s not art – its ugly spray paint on a drain. Should charge the person who approved it, rather than the person who cleaned it off.

Should be more of it (cleaning that is).

Can anyone explain why ‘a local sporting club’ would commission a display of art/graffiti on the wall of a stormwater drain at the entrance to a cemetary?

theres a difference between ‘influence’ and ‘mimic’.

Anyone see on Channel 10 News. He’s a disgrace. He’s got no idea what he’s talking about.

bonfire, the bronx in the 80s? Oh man. Weren’t you talking about roman floor mosiacs? They were earlier than the 80s, so you shouldnt be interested in or influenced by them whatsoever because they are foreign and old.

In a strange bit of logic, Steve Pratt claims his own idiocy is actually John Hargreaves’ fault since the latter didn’t intervene to save him from himself, according to this story in The Australian.

“If [Hargreaves] was so concerned that I was about to attack a legal piece of a gazetted artwork, he failed to tell me,” Mr Pratt said.

Unfortunately for Pratt, somebody from the ACT Community Art program said they did warn him beforehand.

bonfire – that’s not art it is tagging or vandalism.. i doubt even the culprits would call themselves artists. However genuine grafitti artists who abide by the law and vandalise, probably do consider themselves artists.

Bonfire has support from a bloke who doesn’t like “Pollacks Blue Poles” [sic].

Personally I blame Steve Pratt for sending bonfire off his trolley again.

but closer to topic, if stevie pratt is going to be so pro-active about important community issues, my street needs sweeping, and then he could fix the pothole on the corner. i’ll even hold the camera.

bonfire – if art is art and we shouldn’t judge, how are you gonna just label a legal, commissioned piece of art as “vandalism”??

bonfire, bonfire, bonfire, whilst i love the way you stir things up here, i really must disagree with your tastes, or lack of acceptance of art that does not conform to them.
Having a bitch about having your wall tagged is justified, but slagging off spraycan art as if it should be eliminated comes over as a bit narrow-minded.
btw, mindless tagging (names not pics)is just territorial pissing in my eyes, and is just vandalism in my view, as opposed to a well done piece in an appropriate location, which i think has artistic merit.
have a look at the stormwater drain along callum st in woden for a good example of ‘graffiti’.

gee stung, how can it be the worst ? that is awfully subjective. i mean art is art and we shouldnt judge…

unless this scourge is nipped in the bud – the act could end up looking like werribee, and with the same reputation.

publicly funding this vandalism is the wrong policy.

public acts like cleaning it off – is good policy.

Johnboy – I think that once this older generation of whingers dies out, the old people will be people who are in their 20’s now, who have grown up with this sort of art around them, and who can realise the skill & talent involved & just enjoy the aesthetics of the art. Graffiti in its current form has only been around for about 30 years in Australia. Some old f*cks are still getting used to it I guess.

That’s impressive bonfire, you’ve dug up the worst possible street art from a backwards place like bloody WERRIBEE to back up your argument. Good one!

Prejudice knows no age.

20 years ago people were saying the same things and today’s 40 year olds were young.

I shouldn’t generalise, some older people are very accepting & encouraging of progressive artforms such as street art/graffiti and I shouldn’t lump them all into one group. It’s just that typically, it is people in the over 40 age bracket who are the most vocal/passionate about suppressing this type of art.

you mean websites like this:

http://werribee.blogspot.com/

oh, stunningly talented artistes…

and no, not over 40.

Hey stung, ease up on the over-40’s 😉

“oh yes its all so imaginative and creative.
its not.”

Actually, yea it is. It appears that you know very little or nothing of the graffiti culture in Australia. Do your homework and have a look at some web sites displaying the work of skilled artists in Australia before you get on your artistic high horse and try lump everything done with a spray can into the same category. It should also be mentioned that this piece wasn’t even graffiti in the traditional sense, it was brush-painted! I bet your over 40 right bonfire? You sound like a typical old person whinging about graffiti with the whole “its not art its rubbish” crap. This artform has been around in Australia for about 30 years and it’s not going anywhere.

Jackson Pollock. The guy painted with detergent bottles, and his art is worth millions. And that’s the opinion of those who supposedly have an “informed opinion”. As someone else said, art is highly subjective. Claiming that your opinion is superior to another’s is nothing more than a wank.

For the record, I’m not a huge fan of the graffiti style of art, but I do accept that it is a valid form, so those who like it, feel free to enjoy it. And before bonfire has another rant, I’m talking about the structured form of graffiti art, not mindless tagging, which I’m sure nobody here is in support of.

Sammy,
someone has tried in the past, and got a suspended sentence and one hell of fine i believe.

There is a large piece of ‘art’ adorning a large wall in inner Canberra. Under Pratt’s law, because I find it objectionable, I can destroy it with no consequences.

The ‘art’ is the large tapestry hanging in the Great Hall at Parliament House.

How many years would I spend in Guantanamo if I enacted my plan?

“Someone who’s never left Queanbeyan still has just as much right to define what they consider art as you or I do.”

Queenbeeyan fukin roolz!!!!!!!!!

The only time I can see that an informed opinion would be better than uninformed opinion, would be in the instance of an artist seeking an informed critique of their work.

you need to look at all types of ‘art’ before you can claim to have an informed opinion

Bullshit, I have been to galleries and exhibitions around the world, but art is still entirely subjective. Someone who’s never left Queanbeyan still has just as much right to define what they consider art as you or I do. The fact that you got Picasso and Dali confused (they’re both Catalan, but, having been to both their galleries their art is pretty different) shows that you’re hardly and expert and as with pretty much everyone (myself included) you don’t know art you just know what you like.

one of my points is – you need to look at all types of ‘art’ before you can claim to have an informed opinion.

so you’ve been to a couple of galleries abroad, have bought things you like as art; this makes you an expert on art and graffiti?? get a life, bonfire.

no-one has commented on the stupidest thing (prattest thing) our venerable mla did, that is daubing over a mural that (bonfire’s expertise aside) seemingly had at least some artistic merit in favour of those blatantly ‘urban terrorist’ tags and scrawls of ‘f*** off’ and other erudite slogans that deface public spaces.

what a pratt.

that he didn’t check to see if was a legal piece of work is bad enough, but to offer no apology at all is disgusting.

well in government he’d have more staff to check stuff for him…

Does that inspire more confidence?

Take the subject out of it (graffiti), and what you have is a local politician who is keen for a high profile, and latches onto law and order type issues to try to get approval.

Whatever you think about graffiti the fact is that he rushed into this without taking 5 minutes to find out the background to the issue.

He then (mistakenly) broke a law, destroyed something a local group had fundarised for, and now isn’t apologising.

It doesn’t make me think he would run the ACT well.

you still haven’t answered my question – if I believe something is an illegitimate piece of art, do I have the right to go and scrub it out?

my 2c’s –
1. It s freaking storm water drain. A spray painted wall is far more appealling in my mind, than rusted bikes, shopping trolleys and the odd drowned housepet/entree.

2. I always assume that those who criticise the art of others (me included) generally have no idea what they are talking about.

Graffiti is the art of a weak and immature mind.

Speaking of museums in other parts of the world. When I first visited the Louvre museum in Paris I was struck not by the magnificent art works but by the absolute rape and pillage that must have gone on in the past to gather up all the treasures from other countries. lol

“…its easier for some third party to decree to you you own sense of taste.”

Ummm…. Hate to say it Bonfire, but isn’t this exactly what you’re doing? Trying to tell others what their sense of taste should be?

Melting clocks is Dali.

roman floor mosaics

oh yes its all so imaginative and creative.

its not.

its derivative and apes a culture (the bronx in the 80’s) that has nothing in common with our society – unless you are such a dunce that you just suck in the also derivative advertising memes that are broadcast to our youth.

i see from the softheads that think graffiti is ok, that those memes have worked – clearly very little independent analysis or decision making on individual taste has occurred. you just roll with the right on culture, because you are intellectually so vapid that its easier for some third party to decree to you you own sense of taste.

i fear for our youth. that they regard this rubbish as being in the same category as williams, nolan or smart.

apropo of this – i cant recall any ‘graffiti’ depicted in a jeffrey smart work.

now while i dont pretend to be an art critic, ive wandered through a fair number of galleries and museums on every continent (except the antarctic) and looked at art from pre-history up until today.

i am still mesmerised by roam floor mosaics and fir the ct readers who saw the article on aenid on the weekend, ive seen that fkoor mosaic at the bardo in tunis – its one of thousands they have. and thats a gallery worth a visit by anyone.

i also put my money where my mouth is and have a small collection of mainly australian works, with a few i picked up overseas.

i guess this is no different to when you are a teenager and you put up picassos melting clocks poster, except that the price tag goes up.

so i reckon i know what is art and what is graffiti.

the demented daubings by untalented people, who are competent mimics of a passe fad are nowehere near the standard that one could consider ‘art’.

the fact that it is a criminal act to spray graffiti also indicates that.

once again – i think pratt has done the right thing and i hope he keeps it up.

Any chance of seeing before and after shots?

And bonfire, “defacing” storm water drains is categorically different to defacing private property like someones house. I am 100% against that, but I am 100% for increased art in public spaces.

Graffiti is good for cities.

So Sue (bonfire) going by your standards it would be ok for me to walk into the national gallery with some paint stripper and wipe out anything that I don’t believe is art??

Frankly I was only surprised that 18 comments went by before bonfire put a comment up reflecting his well-established views on graffitti more broadly. I think that particular argument’s been done to death already though hasn’t it?

So putting artistic merit argument aside, it strikes me that the substance of this matter is that Pratt went off half-cocked and demonstrated poor political judgement – by any reasonable measure.

You know with all the idiots in ACT Gov at the moment it makes it hard to work out who to vote for next year. Clearly not voting for liberal. The greens are frustrating and Labor have made everyone pay more.
I can’t understand how Pratt still has a job. This latest stunt is just a piece of what he’s done. One of his favourites is making up stories about the Police. ie, scared to walk in Woden Bus INterchange, local shopkeepers afraid of antisocial behaviour etc. He seems to be just playing with the media. I suspect the Media are the only ones benefiting from it too.

Meant to read sure you may not like it – proving I am human and RiotACT needs a pay per use edit button.

Bonfire is always good at confusing emotion/opinion with pure fact.

It was a legal piece of work – it was defaced illegally – by a politician – Thats the facts.

Your juvenile demented daubings as you describe them are in my experience applied by people between the ages of 25 to 40 – yes 40.

Why does art have to be within your limited perspective and not that of the wider community.

People think that people do their aerosol art to be naughty and piss of cops/citizens etc – but they do it as a form of expression – as is all types of art.

Do the world a favour and take your blinkers off.

Sue you may not like it – and you are entitled to that – but its still art.

Pratt’s dangerously unstable and shouldn’t be in the liberal party let alone being in government.

As much as John Stanhope is a knob – this is why the ACT cannot have a Liberal governemnt.

Well, having been elected makes it a matter between him and his electorate rather than him and his boss. But I’ll happily concede the irony.

Getting back to Bonfire’s point, if a would be vandal put out multiple media releases and then invited the media to watch the vandalism I expect they’d get very much the same sort of police attention.

That should end:

“and he’s in elected MLA rather than just a junior staffer.”

I love the double standard compared to Aiden Bruford (sp?). Bruford defaces property and is forced to resign, Pratt does the same and won’t even apologise and.

bonfire: Wasn’t it you that was just complaining elsewhere about someone assigning views to you that you don’t hold, then arguing against them? Right, so please don’t do that to me either, kthx.

What a clown. While the Labor government isn’t particularly impressive, at least they’re better than the Liberals.

well done jgangsta – you just jumped the shark.

caf – im sure you want all the walls of your home vandalised – or is it just the walls of peoples property that you dont know that you would like vandalised ?

im sure you represent the silent minority – most peopel i know dont care for their property to be vandalised.

i also wonder if the resources the afp put into finding out the villain in this horrendous case of graffiti removal, are the same level of resources they would put into the other acts of vandalism that occur.

shauno – would normally agree with you, but in this case, i’m quite happy for my taxes/rates to pay for the cop’s investigation on this one he was trying to score points when he did this clean up and invited the media…and it backfired….the fact that he still denies that he made a mistake is more evidence to just how much trouble the local liberal party is in if this is all the talent they can muster. bonfire – this guy wants us all to do national service if he could have the power to do it. hitler started out just a knob too and what got him to where he was was people who thought like him – and were allowed to vote.

what a tard. This guy is obviously out of touch doesn’t realise that graffiti is the art of the younger generation. The artwork he scrubbed out was not offensive and brightened up the dull concrete around it. With the publicity this has received, does he really think that spot will stay blank for long?? He should worry less about graffiti in Canberra and worry more about deading himself.

that the daubings of some ‘artist’ can be mistaken for vandalism on public property is not entirely unusual.

Especially around the National Gallery during the school holidays.

It’s typical of a muddled old reactionary that they assume that their personal bandwagon is supported by the majority (natch, the Silent Majority).

Admit it, Pratt’s a goose and he cocked up good and proper.

pratt did the right thing.

thet the daubings of some ‘artist’ can be mistaken for vandalism on public property is not entirely unusual.

its because some of the weaker softheads have caved into blackmail of ‘if we dont legally paint a commissioned mural then ‘someone else’ hint hint will illegally grafiti it anyway…’.

pratt did the right thing and i would contribute to a fund to raise cleaning materials if he plans to get out there again this saturday.

i think the majority of canberrans who are tired of juvenile demented daubings littering the streetscape would agree.

it is typical of the stanhope govt that they would pay for and approve of these demented daubings.

Twit.
It makes him look very very slack to have not even looked up the local graffiti laws/boundaries etc before rushing into his huge media stunt/graffiti crusade.

what a complete and utter wanker.

JJJ ran with this on their news this morning.

This guy is a complete knob. What a useless destruction of great piece of art. For what? The disgruntled old person vote?

Seriously, what was he thinking when he was scrubbing off the paint? “Oh this blank concrete wall looks MUCH better. It really spruces up this storm water drain. You know, I think we should invigorate the public spaces of Canberra with more blank concrete walls – they’re fantastic. Mental note – I must contact my dominatrix tonight and book another session – I’ve been a bad boy, I’m a dirty little miscreant, I need rules and punishment… I need my botty punished!!”

Planet Rupert, gives it to him here

surely it should be up to the sporting club to call the cops, not Stanhope

Prat by name, prat by nature…

Thats funny. Does this mean he has to help re-paint it?

I’ll see your witch hunt and raise a Spanish Inquisition

Its amusing though and the irony of it all if thats the right word lol. The guy who is advocating a police and fascist state is about to get busted by the cops.

Pratt wouldn’t even confirm he’s going to apologise to the artist!

I call a witch-hunt!

Pratt by name lol

What I like most is news.com.au is reporting that the artist is asking for an apology – Pratt can not be happy about that.
This is what is listed on the TAMS website for Murals and Legal Graffiti sites.

http://www.parksandplaces.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/12499/official_mural.xls

jr – I think that is just a list of commissioned/sponsored murals – there are plenty of legal “aerosol art” (Perish the thought I call it legal graffiti – an oxymoron) sites around canberra that are not listed in that .xls file.

The list of legal “Sites” that may or may not have sponsored murals can be found here!

Enjoy !

I’m inclined to agree with you, Ingeegoodbee – if Pratt were police minister and this happened “on his watch”, you can bet he’d be baying for blood and bemoaning the loss of all the “local sporting club’s hard fund raising work”.
Live by the sword….

Dunno Shauno, if the Prat has willfully committed property damage, surely it’s a matter for the police to investigate.

obviously what is needed here are more police and a zero tolerance approach to vandals.

This is what is listed on the TAMS website for Murals and Legal Graffiti sites.

http://www.parksandplaces.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/12499/official_mural.xls

Could become a little delicate if (God forbid) Pratt became Minister for Police after the next election.

These polys are like bloody children. Why the hell would you refer some one to the cops because of that if its not for some bullshit political mileage. Fair enough he’s stuffed up but so what you don’t have to get the cops involved.