Tidbinbilla serves Kangaroo meat at their cafe.

Venuslace said :

This article is so vile, it is making me ill. Isn’t “Tidbinbilla ” supposed to be a” Wildlife Refuge?” Their food service should be banned of all the happy animals we buy bags of food to fatten them up for their menu is disgusting and deplorable! . I’ll never bring my children or visitors there again, and I am quite sure many people who are aware of this disgrace will not spend their hard earned money for the “Wildlife Retreat”, feed the joeys, then have lunch of their mothers after they slaughter them.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, you think they are actually killing the roos out there? Maybe you should read the regulations on the processing of meat for sale to the public.

KB1971 said :

Synthetics are mostly made of petro chemicals which are far from natural …

Petrochemicals are derived from crude oil, an organic and natural product.

Venuslace said :

Hysterical ranting …

These rants make me smile. Like when you notice a piece of dunny paper stuck to someone elses shoe.

This article is so vile, it is making me ill. Isn’t “Tidbinbilla ” supposed to be a” Wildlife Refuge?” Their food service should be banned of all the happy animals we buy bags of food to fatten them up for their menu is disgusting and deplorable! . I’ll never bring my children or visitors there again, and I am quite sure many people who are aware of this disgrace will not spend their hard earned money for the “Wildlife Retreat”, feed the joeys, then have lunch of their mothers after they slaughter them.

FreddyVegan said :

Pork Hunt said :

I have a question for Freddy. Do you wear leather shoes?

Given your user name I am not sure if I should bother with a reply, but I shall, even though I am pretty confident you are a wanker. I do have leather shoes I own from before I went vegan, however I now choose not to wear animal product so I don’t buy anything with leather. There are many great companies that sell non leather shoes and products at pretty reasonable prices, making it a lot easier. I would be happy to put up the links to the various businesses should you be interested.

Environmentally, this is potentially worse than using animal products for clothing.

This line of thinking restricts you to man made products so, other than clothing made of cotton or hemp, you will almost always be wearing something synthetic.

Synthetics are mostly made of petro chemicals which are far from natural and leave chemicals as they break down if they are not recycled as most clothing is not.

OK, people eating meat is a given and leather is a natural product (obviously not free of chemicals in its own right) but I would have thought it would me a more natural choice for someone who cared for the environment.

Are vegans environmentalists or just out to save the world from one cause?

Shaping up for a most unorthodox mully!

FootyFan said :

I think that vegans, many of whom have strong and admirable environmental views, should very much prefer us to be eating kangaroo over other meat due to the highly reduced environmental impact over other meats, as well as a natural life up until their death … and attempting to stop people eating it over very questionable information seems more like a close-minded, ignorant individual than the ecologically minded people vegans often present themselves as.

This is exactly why roo should be included on the menu at Tidbinbilla – and other similar places for that matter. Somebody give this man a beer.

FreddyVegan said :

Pandy said :

Does Freddyvegan offer meat to his partners?

No, she doesn’t.

Around 2%of the population are true vegetarians. At most, half of those would also be vegan.

Therefore, FreddyVegan, you will never consider getting into a relationship with 44.5% of the population, or twice that if you swing both ways.

I just noticed the tags. Somehow I doubt that it was the OP who chose ‘tasty tasty kangaroo’. The hand of an unseen and most non-vegan ED.

It does interest me how vegans make some people really angry though!

FootyFan said :

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Having researched extensively into kangaroo meat before I stopped being (completely) vegetarian, I can say with a fair bit of confidence that much of what is on these websites is propaganda with very little factual substantiation. I think that vegans, many of whom have strong and admirable environmental views, should very much prefer us to be eating kangaroo over other meat due to the highly reduced environmental impact over other meats, as well as a natural life up until their death. The basic biological fact is that humans are omnivorous. It is wrong to attempt to force everyone to become vegan however it IS helpful to present the most environmentally (and healthy) alternatives to common meats such as beef. Kangaroo is one of these and attempting to stop people eating it over very questionable information seems more like a close-minded, ignorant individual than the ecologically minded people vegans often present themselves as.

Well said, Skip.

joingler said :

I’m sure if it was that harmful to humans, they would have figured it out a while ago.

I think we can safely say humans have a proven track record for ingesting things known to be harmful.

Jim Jones said :

Masquara said :

I’m not a vegan but listen to me tell them how they should act.

: golfclap :

Not my quote, sorry. Can you please attribute to whoever wrote it?

You really need to get a hobby, Frederina. I suggest dressage, you can swap that high-horse for a real one while still looking down at people and acting superior, doesn’t that sound perfect?

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Having researched extensively into kangaroo meat before I stopped being (completely) vegetarian, I can say with a fair bit of confidence that much of what is on these websites is propaganda with very little factual substantiation. I think that vegans, many of whom have strong and admirable environmental views, should very much prefer us to be eating kangaroo over other meat due to the highly reduced environmental impact over other meats, as well as a natural life up until their death. The basic biological fact is that humans are omnivorous. It is wrong to attempt to force everyone to become vegan however it IS helpful to present the most environmentally (and healthy) alternatives to common meats such as beef. Kangaroo is one of these and attempting to stop people eating it over very questionable information seems more like a close-minded, ignorant individual than the ecologically minded people vegans often present themselves as.

This isn’t the first time they’ve harassed a wildlife sanctuary cafe. See halfway down the page:
http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/kangaroo-archives51.html
Look out for the bold “Warrawong Wildlife Santuary”.
It is also interesting that no-one has put their name to the comments on this website (I wonder why?). The only name I’ve seen is Pat O’Brien, President of the QLD based WPAA (which looks like a cheap knock off of WPSA) and is also where all of the donations go.
I must say that the site is certainly good for a laugh…

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill.

I am allergic to avocado and find the thought of eating it nauseating. I therefore call on the Australian and ACT Governments to ban the growing, buying and selling of avocados in Australia and place economic sanctions on all other countries who fail to do the same.

FreddyVegan said :

I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

Nothing on that webpage has a source. The kangaroo meat I had yesterday had plenty of sauce though 🙂

Personally, I love the line “These boxes are on remote properties, or often hidden in trees, where noone can see them, or what goes in them”

How can you claim to know what is going on inside if no one can see them or know what goes on?

FreddyVegan said :

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

I have faith in the laws and the enforcement of our laws that bind our society together (for the most part anyway). You have your right to say the laws are wrong. But until there are significant sources to suggest otherwise, I aint gunna listen to your arguments.

I find your ignorance to be quite troubling but everyone has the right to be ignorant.

And for my final point, the Aboriginals were eating kangaroo (amongst many other Australian animals) for around 40,000 years before we joined in on the fun. I’m sure if it was that harmful to humans, they would have figured it out a while ago.

Masquara said :

I’m not a vegan but listen to me tell them how they should act.

: golfclap :

Pandy said :

Does Freddyvegan offer meat to his partners?

No, she doesn’t.

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting.

I’ll just ignore the fact that ‘murder’ means the ‘unlawful killing of a human being by another human being’ and cannot apply to animals anyway.

I do agree that ‘beautiful’ animals seem to taste better. Kangaroos, duckling, veal, lamb, rabbit, chickens etc. Certainly the cuter the animal, the tastier it seems to be.

I also note you only mention ‘innocent animals’ that should not be killed. Are there guilty ones we should be eating instead? Are they tastier? Have you got some recipes?

FreddyVegan said :

Pork Hunt said :

I have a question for Freddy. Do you wear leather shoes?

Given your user name I am not sure if I should bother with a reply, but I shall, even though I am pretty confident you are a wanker. I do have leather shoes I own from before I went vegan, however I now choose not to wear animal product so I don’t buy anything with leather. There are many great companies that sell non leather shoes and products at pretty reasonable prices, making it a lot easier. I would be happy to put up the links to the various businesses should you be interested.

If you read my user name in the context I use it in it should read Poor C#nt. That you saw it as something to do with pigs was your first assumption.
Then you called me a wanker (which I shall neither confirm nor deny) so I guess you are a rude prick.

FreddyVegan said :

Pork Hunt said :

I have a question for Freddy. Do you wear leather shoes?

Given your user name I am not sure if I should bother with a reply, but I shall, even though I am pretty confident you are a wanker. I do have leather shoes I own from before I went vegan, however I now choose not to wear animal product so I don’t buy anything with leather. There are many great companies that sell non leather shoes and products at pretty reasonable prices, making it a lot easier. I would be happy to put up the links to the various businesses should you be interested.

I for one don’t buy the “I am a vegan and my leather shoes are old so it’s OK” argument. If you’re a vegan, you don’t wear leather. Period.

FreddyVegan said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Oh wow lololololll I took the plunge and checked your link. I like how none of it is sourced. I like how the *ecoli* pics are some of the worst shopped pics I ever seen and I like how no pic is in perspective, it just random close up pics. Could you be any more desperate to promote your ridiculous cause, freddy vegan?

I understand sometimes it can be very confronting to see the truth, becoming defensive is a common reaction.I hope in time you will realise the ethical and health issues associated with consuming kangaroo meat, and all meat for that matter 🙂

Defensive? Lol!

Stating facts is not being defensive bro.

If you really feel strongly about this, then why not post actual peer reviewed articles instead of vegan propaganda websites that include zero sources?

Does Freddyvegan offer meat to his partners?

Pork Hunt said :

I have a question for Freddy. Do you wear leather shoes?

Given your user name I am not sure if I should bother with a reply, but I shall, even though I am pretty confident you are a wanker. I do have leather shoes I own from before I went vegan, however I now choose not to wear animal product so I don’t buy anything with leather. There are many great companies that sell non leather shoes and products at pretty reasonable prices, making it a lot easier. I would be happy to put up the links to the various businesses should you be interested.

The carbon footprint of a kangaroo is far less than a cow…I don’t see the issue.

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

After reading that I have one simple question: Are there any references to cite, or is this just some guy’s rantings?

To call us ignorant makes us assume you have a proper argument with facts.

I have a question for Freddy. Do you wear leather shoes?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Oh wow lololololll I took the plunge and checked your link. I like how none of it is sourced. I like how the *ecoli* pics are some of the worst shopped pics I ever seen and I like how no pic is in perspective, it just random close up pics. Could you be any more desperate to promote your ridiculous cause, freddy vegan?

I understand sometimes it can be very confronting to see the truth, becoming defensive is a common reaction.I hope in time you will realise the ethical and health issues associated with consuming kangaroo meat, and all meat for that matter 🙂

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Oh wow lololololll I took the plunge and checked your link. I like how none of it is sourced. I like how the *ecoli* pics are some of the worst shopped pics I ever seen and I like how no pic is in perspective, it just random close up pics. Could you be any more desperate to promote your ridiculous cause, freddy vegan?

FreddyVegan said :

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

I think ou need to check your own ignorance before commenting on others.

Putting aside the unnecessary murder of a beautiful innocent animal, to consume kangaroo meat is disgusting. The thought of someone eating kangaroo flesh makes me feel incredibly ill. I encourage you all to do some research into eating kangaroo meat before you talk about how healthy it is.

http://www.kangaroo-protection-coalition.com/eatkangaroomeat.html

However judging by some of the responses here I wouldn’t be all that surprised if a bit of fecal material and urine mixed in with your meat bothered you. The level of ignorance shown by a majority of the people posting here is very troubling.

Gungahlin Al said :

MissChief and OP: any closed ecosystem will likely be subject to population imbalances, requiring correction by the stewards. The feral-fenced sections of Tidbinbilla would be no different, with the rangers having to boot out excess numbers of certain species from time to time to prevent starvation.

Nice work Al. That’s one of the most thoughtful things I’ve ever seen here.

Should restaurants in vineyards not serve wine?

“Won’t someone think of the poor little grapes!”

DrKoresh said :

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

Grow up MissChief. Calling it a ‘sanctuary’ implies that roos are somehow threatened which they are clearly NOT in anyone’s opinion (and if you disagree then your opinion is plainly, objectively wrong).
I’d also like to know how it’s inappropriate to serve kangaroo meat where you have an abundance of roos, can you explain it for me?

There is an area of Tidbinbilla specifically called The Sanctuary. I don’t know if they have kangaroos in that particular area, but Tidbinbilla in general is a Nature Reserve.

Look the definition of ‘sanctuary’ up in a dictionary and you’ll probably see nature reserve, but you won’t find any mention of ‘sanctuary’ meaning a place for species close to extinction. A sanctuary is a protected area. People, numbering in the billions, use sanctuaries.

I like eating kangaroo and emu on the odd occasion. I’m not phased by kangaroo being served in the restaurant, but I can understand why some people might question the appropriateness of serving up denizens of a sanctuary next door in the restaurant. The OPs supercilious language did neither him or his cause any favours.

MissChief said :

DrKoresh said :

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

Grow up MissChief. Calling it a ‘sanctuary’ implies that roos are somehow threatened which they are clearly NOT in anyone’s opinion (and if you disagree then your opinion is plainly, objectively wrong).
I’d also like to know how it’s inappropriate to serve kangaroo meat where you have an abundance of roos, can you explain it for me?

What? LOL. No it doesn’t. I’ve said nothing at all against eating kangaroo and I’ve already explained the gist of the article. Why don’t you do some fact finding yourself. Start with looking up the meaning of sanctuary and then go and read the Tidbinbilla website.

“The Sanctuary at Tidbinbilla offers fabulous nature based experiences and a great way to discover our natural world. A large wetlands ecosystem surrounded by bushland and protected by a predator-proof fence provides sanctuary for a range of native animals in a natural setting.”

So I guess any restaurant on a farm, should stop serving meat from the farm as well?
What about a restaurant that overlooks a marine sanctuary and serves fish/seafood.

As long as its all sustainable its fine by most people. The OP has made a tenuous link that most rational people can understand the differences between whats on show and whats to eat.

MissChief said :

DrKoresh said :

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

Grow up MissChief. Calling it a ‘sanctuary’ implies that roos are somehow threatened which they are clearly NOT in anyone’s opinion (and if you disagree then your opinion is plainly, objectively wrong).
I’d also like to know how it’s inappropriate to serve kangaroo meat where you have an abundance of roos, can you explain it for me?

What? LOL. No it doesn’t. I’ve said nothing at all against eating kangaroo and I’ve already explained the gist of the article. Why don’t you do some fact finding yourself. Start with looking up the meaning of sanctuary and then go and read the Tidbinbilla website.

“The Sanctuary at Tidbinbilla offers fabulous nature based experiences and a great way to discover our natural world. A large wetlands ecosystem surrounded by bushland and protected by a predator-proof fence provides sanctuary for a range of native animals in a natural setting.”

I go there quite a bit and have never seen a roo in the actual sanctuary. They are in abundance every where else though.

Gungahlin Al said :

MissChief and OP: any closed ecosystem will likely be subject to population imbalances, requiring correction by the stewards. The feral-fenced sections of Tidbinbilla would be no different, with the rangers having to boot out excess numbers of certain species from time to time to prevent starvation.

Similarly, the reserves and farmlands we have created all around us create ideal breeding environments for certain species (like roos and Noisy Miners), usually to the detriment of other species, and eventually to the detriment of those species themselves as they reach resource tipping points.

A critical part of good stewardship of rural and reserve lands with “soft” barriers to movement is recognising and acting on such human-induced population imbalances where they occur, in order to minimise effects on other species and ultimately cruelty to those populations themselves. Hence the regretable need for culling.

The introduction of native species on menus at such sites opens up the possibility of dialogue and education around such issues and hopefully some acceptance of what can only ever be a lesser of two evils situation. It also opens up discussion about the values of growing markets and acceptance of our own species as commercially viable, especially given the environmental effects of growing and harvesting native species are far better than for the introduced species we currently favour. We’ll never replace them, but reduced reliance on ruminants and hard-hoofed livestock would help enormously in areas of emissions, soil erosion, soil compaction, nutrient runoff, algael blooms, etc.

In my opinion, these are important public education topics, and fit well with the conservation edict of the Tidbinbilla sanctuary.

Gungahlin Al, this thread has no place for balanced, well thought out logical arguments…

MissChief and OP: any closed ecosystem will likely be subject to population imbalances, requiring correction by the stewards. The feral-fenced sections of Tidbinbilla would be no different, with the rangers having to boot out excess numbers of certain species from time to time to prevent starvation.

Similarly, the reserves and farmlands we have created all around us create ideal breeding environments for certain species (like roos and Noisy Miners), usually to the detriment of other species, and eventually to the detriment of those species themselves as they reach resource tipping points.

A critical part of good stewardship of rural and reserve lands with “soft” barriers to movement is recognising and acting on such human-induced population imbalances where they occur, in order to minimise effects on other species and ultimately cruelty to those populations themselves. Hence the regretable need for culling.

The introduction of native species on menus at such sites opens up the possibility of dialogue and education around such issues and hopefully some acceptance of what can only ever be a lesser of two evils situation. It also opens up discussion about the values of growing markets and acceptance of our own species as commercially viable, especially given the environmental effects of growing and harvesting native species are far better than for the introduced species we currently favour. We’ll never replace them, but reduced reliance on ruminants and hard-hoofed livestock would help enormously in areas of emissions, soil erosion, soil compaction, nutrient runoff, algael blooms, etc.

In my opinion, these are important public education topics, and fit well with the conservation edict of the Tidbinbilla sanctuary.

Lillypilly said :

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

A sanctuary of kangaroos? I must have missed the news where it’s now an issue that roos in this region have suddenly become near extinct…

Your faux outrage is showing.

Again with the endangered/extinct argument? DrKoresh? Troll?

DrKoresh said :

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

Grow up MissChief. Calling it a ‘sanctuary’ implies that roos are somehow threatened which they are clearly NOT in anyone’s opinion (and if you disagree then your opinion is plainly, objectively wrong).
I’d also like to know how it’s inappropriate to serve kangaroo meat where you have an abundance of roos, can you explain it for me?

What? LOL. No it doesn’t. I’ve said nothing at all against eating kangaroo and I’ve already explained the gist of the article. Why don’t you do some fact finding yourself. Start with looking up the meaning of sanctuary and then go and read the Tidbinbilla website.

“The Sanctuary at Tidbinbilla offers fabulous nature based experiences and a great way to discover our natural world. A large wetlands ecosystem surrounded by bushland and protected by a predator-proof fence provides sanctuary for a range of native animals in a natural setting.”

Come on peeps, this is getting cruel. Not to the roos, so much as to OP.

Surely he didn’t expect such a release of buzzing, meaty flies when he opened Pandora’s pouch? Which is a horrible image, isn’t it, Skip. Skip? Skip?

Which one of you rendered her marsoupial?

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

Grow up MissChief. Calling it a ‘sanctuary’ implies that roos are somehow threatened which they are clearly NOT in anyone’s opinion (and if you disagree then your opinion is plainly, objectively wrong).
I’d also like to know how it’s inappropriate to serve kangaroo meat where you have an abundance of roos, can you explain it for me?

MissChief said :

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

A sanctuary of kangaroos? I must have missed the news where it’s now an issue that roos in this region have suddenly become near extinct…

Your faux outrage is showing.

“Shock and horror”? You are fragile. Roos arent exactly endangered. Why not eat them?

Stop the “its Canberra” crap too. You can get roo steaks all over Australia.

The OP has done a mighty fine job of promoting the cafe, and particularly this meal. How many people are now considering roo salad at Tidbinbilla over the break? I know I am.
#outragefail

Aslo nice to know that the ACT will be able to put those culled roos to good use now…

Grow up people. The article is clearly NOT about eating kangaroo meat but about the appropriateness of serving kangaroo at a sanctuary for kangaroos.

watto23 said :

I always ask the vegans, how can they assure me that their vegetables were farmed in a responsible manner and not from land resulting from cut down rainforest or from farms employing cheap child labour 🙂

Buy organic/Australian.
Ask the someone who works at your grocer where it comes from, then research based on their answer.
Grow your own.

Pretty easy really.

troll-sniffer said :

Invited by vegetarians for dinner? Point out that since you’d no doubt be made aware of their special dietary requirements, tell them about yours, and ask for a nice steak.

Hmm. I like this idea. I’ll try it next time I go to a vego’s house.

bigfeet said :

LSWCHP said :

Watson said :

Indeed. I’m a member at Tidbinbilla, but haven’t been there for a few months. I might head out there for a walk and a bit of roo on the weekend. Is the place licensed at all? BYO?

No reason to BYO…there’s enough roos out there for everyone.

they should serve the roo with a nose tag in.

On a side note, anyone know where I can pick up some bush tomatoes? Some grilled roo with lemon myrtle seasoning and a rocket and bush tomato salad would make a great summer lunch.

I always ask the vegans, how can they assure me that their vegetables were farmed in a responsible manner and not from land resulting from cut down rainforest or from farms employing cheap child labour 🙂

Instant Mash said :

All this did was get me seriously hungry for some skippy… Thanks, OP.

Might have to check that place out.

The vac packed steaks you can get from Woolies are pretty darn good.

Pork Hunt said :

I wonder if any Actors Riot are aware of a country/province/state with beavers on their coat of arms? I’d eat beaver…

I choked!!

But to answer your question: Toronto

All this did was get me seriously hungry for some skippy… Thanks, OP.

Might have to check that place out.

zorro29 said :

lol there is actually a kangaroo picture on the menu…

actually seems like a great showcase of local and unique flavours and produce

Brush-tailed rock wallaby, a critically endangered species… hopefully not on the menu 🙂

But seriously, they have a fantastic breeding program for these critters there.

crappicker said :

As someone who loves to see kangaroos hopping around, I hate to see them slaughtered for mass consumption. To offer kangaroo meat on the menu at, of all places, the Tidbinbilla cafe, seems a serious misjudgement by management.

I like to see lambs frolicking in spring and cows grazing in a paddock too. Unless you are in fact vegetarian or vegan, then your comment is ridiculously hypocritical.

If kangaroos bred for consumption gets your back up, then you really need to investigate where the rest of your meat comes from, then start putting your money where your mouth is and shop humane.

Kangaroos are actually overpopulating Canberra. Why do you think we cull them every year?

The OP is trolling, surely?

Pork Hunt said :

I wonder if any Actors Riot are aware of a country/province/state with beavers on their coat of arms? I’d eat beaver…

Ahh yes ,, good one Pork Hunt

Pork Hunt said :

I wonder if any Actors Riot are aware of a country/province/state with beavers on their coat of arms? I’d eat beaver…

I like what you did there… hehe

LSWCHP said :

Watson said :

Indeed. I’m a member at Tidbinbilla, but haven’t been there for a few months. I might head out there for a walk and a bit of roo on the weekend. Is the place licensed at all? BYO?

No reason to BYO…there’s enough roos out there for everyone.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-or.html

Watch out for splinters.

I wonder if any Actors Riot are aware of a country/province/state with beavers on their coat of arms? I’d eat beaver…

bigfeet said :

Paul0075 said :

Like the others have said, it’s a versatile and very lean meat, and rich in the minerals we get from other meats, and kills several birds with one stone:

I think the original poster might object to killing birds with stones as well.

Stoned birds on the other hand…

Better avoid Poacher’s as well, they not only have roo but rabbit on their menu. Plus during some times of the year you can drive pass their cute little lambs on the way in then chow down on some lamb chops for dinner.

LSWCHP said :

Watson said :

WTF? The Tidbinbilla cafe serves Native Bush Tomatoes for lunch?! How dare they?!

Move along now, nothing to see here…

PS: thanks for promoting the Tidbinbilla cafe!

Indeed. I’m a member at Tidbinbilla, but haven’t been there for a few months. I might head out there for a walk and a bit of roo on the weekend. Is the place licensed at all? BYO?

Was out there two weeks ago showing friends from England around. Sadly a lot of sanctuary is closed due to floods.
Also a butt load of red bellies are out there.
At least the poms got to see some snakes like they wanted. Emu was in hiding though.

bigfeet said :

I think the original poster might object to killing birds with stones as well.

The trick is- small birds, big stone

No issue with vegans who can respect other people’s choice to eat meat, but the ones who complain about it can be served on the menu at the Tidbinbilla cafe for all I care.

All the hippies too, while we’re at it…..ugh, hippies….

Fast forward to about 23 1/2 minutes into this episode of Hack. 🙂

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/daily/hack_tue_2012_11_27.mp3

Kudos OP, best trollwork. Surely you saw some fruit&veg on your travels ?

Watson said :

WTF? The Tidbinbilla cafe serves Native Bush Tomatoes for lunch?! How dare they?!

Move along now, nothing to see here…

PS: thanks for promoting the Tidbinbilla cafe!

Indeed. I’m a member at Tidbinbilla, but haven’t been there for a few months. I might head out there for a walk and a bit of roo on the weekend. Is the place licensed at all? BYO?

WTF? The Tidbinbilla cafe serves Native Bush Tomatoes for lunch?! How dare they?!

Move along now, nothing to see here…

PS: thanks for promoting the Tidbinbilla cafe!

I really wish somebody would just start eating these stupid vegans.

I hate it when I go home to Cooma, passing all those sheep on the way home, and then my painfully omnivorous partner serves me a revolting lamp chop. I mean – WTF?!? Who takes meat from animals? Surely they could grow it from some soya extract and make it palletable, like tofu or hippie pubes?

Diggety said :

I visited a tofu factory the other day, and to my shock/horror – they were serving tofu on the menu. I was so outraged my head damn near exploded!!!

Kudos to Cafe Tidbinbilla for a) opening, and b) serving kangaroo. Imagine the food miles, they’d be measured in meters!

I wonder if vegans are aware that most tofu is actually made of chicken bits. Anuses and beaks and stuff…

I visited a tofu factory the other day, and to my shock/horror – they were serving tofu on the menu. I was so outraged my head damn near exploded!!!

Kudos to Cafe Tidbinbilla for a) opening, and b) serving kangaroo. Imagine the food miles, they’d be measured in meters!

troll-sniffer said :

Vegetarians coming to dinner? Simply serve them a nice bit of steak or veal. Since they’re always going on about how tofu, quorn, meat substitute etc ‘tastes exactly like the real thing’, they won’t notice any difference.

Invited by vegetarians for dinner? Point out that since you’d no doubt be made aware of their special dietary requirements, tell them about yours, and ask for a nice steak.

Troll-sniffer with the thigh slapper.

Pandy said :

Lets feed whale to the tourists instead!

only if it has served its scientific purpose (porpoise?) first…

My parents tricked me into eating roo sausages once and they were damn yummy,

zorro29 said :

there is actually a kangaroo picture on the menu…

Looks like a wallaby to me.

Wallabies are lardarses.

Lets feed whale to the tourists instead!

Vegetarians coming to dinner? Simply serve them a nice bit of steak or veal. Since they’re always going on about how tofu, quorn, meat substitute etc ‘tastes exactly like the real thing’, they won’t notice any difference.

Invited by vegetarians for dinner? Point out that since you’d no doubt be made aware of their special dietary requirements, tell them about yours, and ask for a nice steak.

Paul0075 said :

Like the others have said, it’s a versatile and very lean meat, and rich in the minerals we get from other meats, and kills several birds with one stone:

I think the original poster might object to killing birds with stones as well.

Don’t bother looking in the meat section of the supermarket then. There’s plenty of kangaroo to buy there too. Marinated, plain, sausages, roasts, etc. If you go to the right supermarkets / butchers you can also get emu, crocodile and so on.

Like the others have said, it’s a versatile and very lean meat, and rich in the minerals we get from other meats, and kills several birds with one stone: little impact on the environment with farming, it’s almost fat free, it’s also quite delicious, and by having Skippy on our plates, we keep the overpopulation of the nation’s roo stocks in check (and you’d be blind to think that we don’t have too many roos, especially given the collisions Canberra is renowned for – AAMI said it’s their highest insurance claim for the ACT a few years ago).

lol there is actually a kangaroo picture on the menu…

actually seems like a great showcase of local and unique flavours and produce

The only thing that annoys me about the menu (which has vego meals) is that they spell Shepherd’s Pie as Sheppard’s Pie. I really hate that and I see it all the time. German Sheppards. Sheppard’s Pie. If you think sheep herd you can’t go wrong.

I suppose a roo herd has a rood pie? (Rood’s would spoil things.)

crappicker said :

As someone who loves to see kangaroos hopping around, I hate to see them slaughtered for mass consumption. To offer kangaroo meat on the menu at, of all places, the Tidbinbilla cafe, seems a serious misjudgement by management.

What’s so good about Kangaroos? All they do is hop around and be useless. At least being killed and eaten, they’re slightly less useless than they are when they’re alive.

devils_advocate said :

astrojax said :

shirty_bear said :

It’s doubly satisfying to see some special-interest-type get all hoity and/or toity, only to be smacked down by massed common sense. Well played, RA.

+1

also, all this bluster about fat consumption in this thread: that isn’t the issue – fat is good for you, and necessary, but won’t make you fat. sugar, on the other hand…

Disagree. I don’t eat sugar (not because I’m some kind of diet matyr, but because I just don’t really care for it).

But I can’t shred unless I go super clean, including trimming all fat off steaks, etc etc. Or maybe it’s just me, and others don’t have that experience. But I suspect it’s not just me, otherwise there’d be a whole heap of people walking around shredded.

sarah_wilson_iqs.pdf

Overheard said :

This prompted me to check out their full menu which looks bloody brilliant: http://www.tidbinbilla.com.au/files/view/?id=415

Agreed, the menu does look quite nice, especially given the relatively modest prices. Can anyone advise whether the food tastes as good as it sounds?

Also, I think it would be somewhat ironic and hilarious if a whinge thread turned into a huge advertisement for the cafe. Either that or it’s the smartest viral marketing campaign in the history of the interwebs.

As someone who loves to see kangaroos hopping around, I hate to see them slaughtered for mass consumption. To offer kangaroo meat on the menu at, of all places, the Tidbinbilla cafe, seems a serious misjudgement by management.

I think that ‘quelle horreur’ has the appropriately pretentious tone for a response

they serve seafood at aquariums which i find offputting but this seems a bit of a stretch

as one of my favourite comedians says: “there was a harry ramsden’s right next to the aquarium. is the brochure for the aquarium the menu for the harry ramsden??”

it’s good for cafes to serve local produce that has been raised humanely

not a roo eater myself, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find it on the menu either

astrojax said :

shirty_bear said :

It’s doubly satisfying to see some special-interest-type get all hoity and/or toity, only to be smacked down by massed common sense. Well played, RA.

+1

also, all this bluster about fat consumption in this thread: that isn’t the issue – fat is good for you, and necessary, but won’t make you fat. sugar, on the other hand…

Disagree. I don’t eat sugar (not because I’m some kind of diet matyr, but because I just don’t really care for it).

But I can’t shred unless I go super clean, including trimming all fat off steaks, etc etc. Or maybe it’s just me, and others don’t have that experience. But I suspect it’s not just me, otherwise there’d be a whole heap of people walking around shredded.

shirty_bear said :

It’s doubly satisfying to see some special-interest-type get all hoity and/or toity, only to be smacked down by massed common sense. Well played, RA.

+1

also, all this bluster about fat consumption in this thread: that isn’t the issue – fat is good for you, and necessary, but won’t make you fat. sugar, on the other hand…

If God didn’t intend for us to eat animals, He wouldn’t have made them out of meat.

This prompted me to check out their full menu which looks bloody brilliant: http://www.tidbinbilla.com.au/files/view/?id=415

Might the go for a drive in the country and a skippy salad.

I like their coffee sizes: joey, roo and big fella.

Do you get to choose which roo you would like as you go in? Kind of like fish in an upmarket restaurant.

Just come back in an hour and it’ll be all cooked up for you. Yum yum.

I’m more horrified when you pay a motza for roo and the chef doesn’t know how to cook it properly.

“Although I probably shouldn’t be suprised, this is canberra after all.”

I love the smell of non sequiturs in the morning. It smells like…… ignorance.

Kangaroo is much preferable to other forms of meat, especially pork or lamb which contain large amounts of fat. It is especially good if you are trying to look ripped before a contest, also as a good source of lean protein. Because of the lack of fat it is more difficult to cook than other meat but once you get the hang of it, it is delicious.

The main reason people get so hung up about eating roo is the heritage thing, mainly the coat of arms but really, if roo was the primary meat consumed in this country we would have a far healthier society overall.

It’s doubly satisfying to see some special-interest-type get all hoity and/or toity, only to be smacked down by massed common sense. Well played, RA.

“only fools argue about whether to eat meat or not” – Guru Nanak.

As a vegan, I have rarely found truer words. So stop making the rest of us look bad! If they honestly couldn’t serve something vegan then get insulted but stop whinging about what everyone else is eating.

It makes you look like a fool.

Grail said :

How do you know if one of your dinner guests is vegan?

Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

Ha ha gold!

Actually kangaroo is a much more appropriate meat for us killers to consume as they dont cause the land erosion that imported hoofed animals have caused.

I’m vego, but the thought of eating kangaroo appeals a lot more than the thought of eating factory farmed pigs or chicken. Roos haven’t been raised in windowless rooms, and they’re a more sustainable source of meat (for the time being).

Cultural jokes aside, dear Canberra-bashing vegan wannabe, I wonder why you don’t express similar shock and horror at every shop that serves meat of any kind. Have you ever seen how feed lot cattle are treated? It’s not a particularly high quality lifestyle. Kangaroo meat is collected from animals that are basically free range (in as far as wild animals can be considered to be “farmed”), the animals are native which means they have negligible impact on the native wildlife (even though we’re boosting their numbers by providing more and more grassland to feed on, even if the grasses are our cereal grains, LOL), and the meat is very lean (which is good for people trying to control calorie & fat intake).

As far as killing animals for food goes, kangaroo meat is about as good as it gets.

Excellent idea – there isn’t enough kangaroo on Australian menus. It’s a healthy thing.

How do you know if one of your dinner guests is vegan?

Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

arthwollipot said :

I think it’s excellent that the roo is on the menu. Kangaroo is lean, healthy, sustainable, and better for the environment than beef or lamb. And they’re not exactly on the endangered list, are they?

As a vegan, you should be encouraging more meat-eaters to consume kangaroo instead of meat that is unsustainably farmed, juiced up with antibiotics and hormones, inhumanely killed and wastefully butchered.

Freddy vegan is trhe same person who said we should not bother trying to educate people about eating meat that comes from farms that look after their animals and that the only way to stop all animal cruelty is to go vegan.

Thanks for the tip.
I now know another great place to take visitors for some delicious roo!

Vegans: the original wowsers.

I think the name FreddyVegan says it all. Roo is fantastic when not overcooked. I think it’s great we eat our coat of arms 🙂

I can imagine YOUR shock and horror. I imagine it would have been amusing to watch.

I can’t however imagine a normal person being shocked or horrified that a local cafe decided to serve healthy local produce.

Most would think its a good thing.

I think it’s excellent that the roo is on the menu. Kangaroo is lean, healthy, sustainable, and better for the environment than beef or lamb. And they’re not exactly on the endangered list, are they?

As a vegan, you should be encouraging more meat-eaters to consume kangaroo instead of meat that is unsustainably farmed, juiced up with antibiotics and hormones, inhumanely killed and wastefully butchered.

lol i was all wtf is your problem with eating kangaroo? they are no different than beef or w/e, then i looked and saw who posted.

the kangaroos are not your friends. The message being sent is we have a delicious alternative to cow/pig/lamb.

Although I am vegetarian, I don’t find kangaroo being served shocking. At least they had something of a life, unlike intensively raised farm animals.

I don’t like the whole idea of meat, but remember, Aboriginal people have been eating kangaroo for thousands of years and it is probably less harmful to the environment than cattle.

I don’t think they’d be using roadkill so all is good!

Actually, no. I can’t imagine your shock and horror. I don’t see the difference between the cafe serving kangaroo meat and any other meat, native or not. The message that could be sent by offering up kangaroo meat is that it’s an abundant resource, and a quality product, particularly in terms of health. You’d be much better off eating a kangaroo fillet than a ham sandwich.

All meat is murder – tasty, tasty murder.