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A stupid knee jerk in reaction to The Klan

By johnboy - 14 August 2012 59

Simon Corbell has announced that he’s going to legislate in response to the crazy hooters in Gungahlin and their crappy anti-muslim leaflets.

“This Bill makes it illegal for a person to publicly incite hatred towards another person, or to publicly incite serious contempt for or ridicule of another person, based on their religion,” said Mr Corbell.

“The bill provides protection from vilification based on religion, and enables people to freely exercise their right to adopt and practise the religion of their choice, without fear of public acts of hatred.”

Now I dislike what those buggers are doing as much as anyone. But I’d rather humiliate the spiteful bigots than martyr them.

And I want to be able to talk about the issues without Simon’s thought police kicking my door down.

So how about you take this to the election Simon and bring it in with a mandate in November if you still think it’s a good idea?

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A stupid knee jerk in reaction to The Klan
ToastFliesRED 10:54 am 14 Aug 12

Definite political correctness knee-jerk reactionary BS.

housebound said :

It’s a stunt. Does anyone think the ALP and Greens would really want to extend any religious protection to all religions, even (or especially) Christianity?

Well the Greens are probably more likely to be ambivalent but Labor has a lot more vested in keeping the xtian clubs on side,

But my concern is that if the members of the Koncerned Kittyzens of Kanberra all happen to have the same religious beliefs as their leader do our comments constitute religious vilification under the proposed legislation?

housebound 10:48 am 14 Aug 12

CrocodileGandhi said :

This is the perfect example of a government doing somethin so as to be seen to be doing something. These laws are almost never invoked, and even when they are, almost never see anyone getting done for it. All it means is that the government has something to point to every now and then to say that they are tough on discrimination.

Look at Victoria.

CrocodileGandhi 10:44 am 14 Aug 12

This is the perfect example of a government doing somethin so as to be seen to be doing something. These laws are almost never invoked, and even when they are, almost never see anyone getting done for it. All it means is that the government has something to point to every now and then to say that they are tough on discrimination.

We don’t need laws to stop people like the Koncerned Kitizens of Kanberra. We need only websites like RA to pour scorn upon their stupidity and transparent bigotry.

housebound 10:35 am 14 Aug 12

It’s a stunt. Does anyone think the ALP and Greens would really want to extend any religious protection to all religions, even (or especially) Christianity?

How do you objectively determine inciting hatred, serious contempt or ridicule? All this type of legislation does is shut down debate.

It’s going to be interesting.

poetix 10:34 am 14 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Does that mean we wont be able to ridicule christians either?

You’d be rendered silent, my dear! (-:
(Which would not be a good thing.)

random 10:16 am 14 Aug 12

Holden Caulfield said :

Naive me thought racial vilification would have already been covered under existing discrimination laws.

Islam is not a “race”, so this is not racial vilification. Discrimination law more broadly only applies in specific circumstances, like applying for a job.

The ACT Human Rights Commissioner published a long response about the Gungahlin leaflets two weeks ago going into some detail.

p1 10:00 am 14 Aug 12

Woe betide the next person who implies that the FSM isn’t real and omnificently tasty.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:59 am 14 Aug 12

shirty_bear said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Does that mean we wont be able to ridicule christians either?

I’ll only stop doing that when they stop being ridiculous.

Hey i agree, but its only fair if a new law does come in, that it applies to everyone.

shirty_bear 9:57 am 14 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Does that mean we wont be able to ridicule christians either?

I’ll only stop doing that when they stop being ridiculous.

Deref 9:53 am 14 Aug 12

Idiocy!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:50 am 14 Aug 12

Does that mean we wont be able to ridicule christians either?

beejay76 9:48 am 14 Aug 12

Other jurisdictions in Australia (I think Tasmania, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) include a whole raft of provisions in their hate-speech laws, not just race. For the ACT to extend their hate-speech laws isn’t really as extreme as you’re making out.

I think it’s makes a just symmetry that the hate-speech laws reflect the extent of the anti-discrimination laws: sex, race, religion, sexual orientation and so on. Why should some be publicly vilified for their beliefs when we have freedom of religion in this country. Let people get on with worshiping whomever they wish.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Better burn your copies of the Life of Brian.

This, on the other hand, is a “stupid, knee-jerk reaction.”

Holden Caulfield 9:47 am 14 Aug 12

Naive me thought racial vilification would have already been covered under existing discrimination laws.

Is it really a knee jerk reaction?

I’m not so sure discussion and humiliation of spiteful bigots is to “publicly incite serious contempt for or ridicule of another person, based on their religion.”

But who knows how trigger happy and equitably the laws will be policed.

Mysteryman 9:45 am 14 Aug 12

What a ridiculous bill. “Stupid knee jerk reaction” is an understatement.

This will probably mean that RA can no longer post anything related to religion, due to the idiotic comments that usually follow. However, as atheism isn’t a religion, he can bash that all we like.

colourful sydney rac 9:36 am 14 Aug 12

“This Bill makes it illegal for a person to publicly incite … ridicule … another person, based on their religion,” said Mr Corbell.

Better burn your copies of the Life of Brian.

Stupid knee jerk reaction by Labor.

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