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A traffic rant from Stephen

By johnboy 17 May 2013 54

cycle paths

This just in…

It’s about time we lobby the ACT Government to widen our bike paths!! How can we be expected to fit our cars in these piddling ½ sized lanes? In peak times there is an obvious need for the average motorist to bypass the law abiding losers waiting patiently for a variety of reasons, but mostly because waiting whole minutes for traffic to move in a number of locations can make you very late for the first coffee break of the morning. Let’s not get into the buses on Northbourne Avenue… what were they thinking? Only the left hand side of a bus can squeeze into the average bicycle lane, and that’s assuming the bus driver decides to risk approaching the curb to within chrome-scratching range.

Some smart-arse may suggest leaving for work earlier, but the traffic flows well first thing in the morning and you end up getting to work too soon – and are forced to take extended coffee breaks or longer lunches to keep your hours to the mandated 7 hrs 21 mins per day. Going home is just as bad. Some of us need to pick up our rug-rats from their holding cells before 5:45 PM or we get charged $50 OR MORE for being late.

For god’s sake, we’re supposed to be a smart city, if the Thais can fit 4 lines of traffic on a 2 lane road in Bangkok during peak hour, surely we can widen our bike lanes to allow better traffic flow!

You can see exactly what I am talking about in the attached images (taken over my left shoulder by one of my car-pooling buddies, honest! – who incidentally agrees with me whole heartedly.)

I really see nothing wrong with this plan, the only downside might be the necessity to pull out the wreckage of the occasional recumbent cyclist from under the 4WD.

Steve….

utes and cyclepaths

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magiccar9 7:30 pm 20 May 13

Felix the Cat said :

Last time I checked the road rules are there for EVERYONE to obey, not just those that decide they don’t want to obey them. 90km/h may be safe along Adelaide Ave, 100km/h may even be safe but the authorities have made the rule that the speed limit is 80km/h so that is the fastest anybody should drive along there.

Doing 90km/h is only going to cut travel time from Civic to Woden by a few seconds, not worth the risk of being pulled over by police and fined (adding more time to the drive, not to mention expense of the fine) or potentially having a collision.

Yes, we should be obeying the law to the letter and doing exactly 80km/h. What a perfect world it would be. Guess what! We don’t live in a perfect world. If we obeyed every law then the police should be out booking the idiots who choose to obstruct traffic by sitting well below the limit.

I’ve been using Adelaide Av regularly for over 9 months now – and have only seen a mobile speed van once. Is that meant to deter everyone from doing 10km/h over? I all honesty I don’t see the problem with doing 90km/h. As I stated, the vast majority of people do it and, call me a sheep if you want, I find no reason not to do it myself.

As for your argument that it only saves a few seconds, that must be based on a perfectly straight stretch of road without traffic. I save easily 5 minutes or more. It means I’m not stuck behind the morons who clog the right hand land doing 70, and also means I can skip past the morons who don’t know how to merge from the various on-ramps. If I get through a set of lights before they change and the guy doing 80 gets stopped, there is another 3-4 minutes easily gained. Multiply that over the course of a trip and you’re probably looking at a significant amount of time.

I’m not trying to justify obscene speeding by any means. I understand the speed zones are there to keep people safe, but I am merely asking to their relevance in every situation.

EvanJames 2:17 pm 20 May 13

tuco said :

All those banks with all that money out the back? Just encouraging thieves.
Those carparks full of shiny vehicles? Just asking for joy riders to nick ’em.
Best we go back to goat tracks so no one would even think of getting past another car.

Ah but then there’s the goat-nickers. You’d be just encouraging them.

Felix the Cat 1:19 pm 20 May 13

magiccar9 said :

Felix the Cat said :

So because some people think it’s safe to do 10km/h over the speed limit then it’s ok…I’ll have to remember to tell that to Plod next time I get pulled over for speeding.”Why are you booking me officer, they said on RiotACT that it was safe to speed”.

If you’re driving in a group of cars going at 90km/h I’d ask him why he’s pulling you over and not everyone else.

I never said it was legal, I just said that that’s the way traffic flows – without any major incidents. If you want to be one of the people that doesn’t go with the flow of traffic then that’s fine. Just don’t complain when people get impatient with you and tailgate or get angry passing you.

Last time I checked the road rules are there for EVERYONE to obey, not just those that decide they don’t want to obey them. 90km/h may be safe along Adelaide Ave, 100km/h may even be safe but the authorities have made the rule that the speed limit is 80km/h so that is the fastest anybody should drive along there.

Doing 90km/h is only going to cut travel time from Civic to Woden by a few seconds, not worth the risk of being pulled over by police and fined (adding more time to the drive, not to mention expense of the fine) or potentially having a collision.

magiccar9 11:15 am 20 May 13

Felix the Cat said :

So because some people think it’s safe to do 10km/h over the speed limit then it’s ok…I’ll have to remember to tell that to Plod next time I get pulled over for speeding.”Why are you booking me officer, they said on RiotACT that it was safe to speed”.

If you’re driving in a group of cars going at 90km/h I’d ask him why he’s pulling you over and not everyone else.

I never said it was legal, I just said that that’s the way traffic flows – without any major incidents. If you want to be one of the people that doesn’t go with the flow of traffic then that’s fine. Just don’t complain when people get impatient with you and tailgate or get angry passing you.

tim_c 9:48 am 20 May 13

CrocodileGandhi said :

Mysteryman said :

I regularly see cyclists riding 2 and 3 abreast, spilling into car lanes where there is a cycle lane right next to them. Clearly they are ok with sharing.

Riding two abreast on any road (cycle lane or not) is legal in the ACT.

Um, only one roads with more than one lane in each direction. And there are also road rules against unnecessarily obstructing traffic. Unless you’re fine with cars blocking the bike lanes, I’d suggest you would want to use those bike lanes where available and not obstruct traffic in the other lanes.

Attitudes like your give some clues as to why so many motorists are so angry at me for taking my pushbike to work instead of my car.

tim_c 9:35 am 20 May 13

Surely it’s just a coincidence that they are all utes?

I’d always thought the idea of a ute was to carry the tools in the tray, not let them drive…

tuco 7:25 am 19 May 13

Mr Gillespie said :

Now you can see why on-road bike lanes are a reckless waste of public money? Make them safer by widening them and you’ll leave enough room for traffic-jam escapees to get through.

Just proves once again my belief: Riding bikes on roads is a stupid idea. Always stick to OFF-ROAD cycle paths.

All those banks with all that money out the back? Just encouraging thieves.
Those carparks full of shiny vehicles? Just asking for joy riders to nick ’em.
Best we go back to goat tracks so no one would even think of getting past another car.

KB1971 6:51 am 19 May 13

Mysteryman said :

Aeek said :

WTF? Do you also feel that your crotch will shrivel should you exit across a green lane behind a cyclist?

Who said anything about green lanes and exiting the road? Nobody. Try reading it again.

No because my eyes will bleed…….

KB1971 6:51 am 19 May 13

Mr Gillespie said :

Now you can see why on-road bike lanes are a reckless waste of public money? Make them safer by widening them and you’ll leave enough room for traffic-jam escapees to get through.

Just proves once again my belief: Riding bikes on roads is a stupid idea. Always stick to OFF-ROAD cycle paths.

But hang on, we are not allowed to ride there either because of the children?

You failed share in pre-school didn’t you?

Mr Gillespie 8:15 pm 18 May 13

Now you can see why on-road bike lanes are a reckless waste of public money? Make them safer by widening them and you’ll leave enough room for traffic-jam escapees to get through.

Just proves once again my belief: Riding bikes on roads is a stupid idea. Always stick to OFF-ROAD cycle paths.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:55 pm 18 May 13

Aeek said :

Mysteryman said :

All this money spent on cycle lanes

Since we’re talking Adelaide Avenue, stuff all. Mostly rebranding the existing shoulder as bike lane. A few signs and a little paint. The work between Kent St and Hopetoun Crt was to stop the rat runners, it was getting dangerous if a driver actually wanted to exit there.

Mysteryman said :

Just continue driving in your lane and pass them close enough to make them think twice about where they are positioned.

WTF? Do you also feel that your crotch will shrivel should you exit across a green lane behind a cyclist?

Mysteryman stop trying to be a tough guy on the interwebs.

Mysteryman 6:04 pm 18 May 13

Aeek said :

WTF? Do you also feel that your crotch will shrivel should you exit across a green lane behind a cyclist?

Who said anything about green lanes and exiting the road? Nobody. Try reading it again.

Felix the Cat 4:55 pm 18 May 13

magiccar9 said :

Felix the Cat said :

Why would vehicles be driving above the 80km/h speed limit? That’s illegal. I thought it was only cyclists that do illegal things on our roads…

Outside the bubble of the perfect little world people believe in, you’ll notice that traffic flows nicely along Adelaide Av at ~90km/h. Save for the odd ass hat who thinks 70 in the right hand lane (I’m looking at you Volkswagen drivers) people are more than happy to cruise along at that speed – and safely might I add.

So because some people think it’s safe to do 10km/h over the speed limit then it’s ok…I’ll have to remember to tell that to Plod next time I get pulled over for speeding.”Why are you booking me officer, they said on RiotACT that it was safe to speed”.

Aeek 1:44 pm 18 May 13

qbngeek said :

Seems to me that you need make sure you have insurance and then just drive into the slip lane. You have the right of way since you are not breaking the law. I have been in this situation once and he didn’t want to take it any further after I pointed out that I had no damage (thanks towbar) and he had a hole in his bumper, however he was driving up the bike lane illegally.

Depends. If you chose to have the collision, that puts you in the wrong too. 2 wrongs make 2 wrongs.

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