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ACT blinking on Gay Marriage

By johnboy 21 October 2013 28

The ABC reports that Simon Corbell’s legal advice on gay marriage is looking Notso Hotso and the Chief Minister is muttering about amendments:

Ms Gallagher has signalled the bill could be amended during tomorrow’s debate in the Legislative Assembly.

“We’re certainly looking at it and the Attorney-General and I have had some discussions over the weekend, and there’s a little bit more discussions to be had,” she said.

The ABC’s fact check unit thinks Simon has screwed the pooch:

When ABC Fact Check last looked at state laws on same-sex marriage, it found the issue to be a lawyer’s picnic. A challenge to the ACT laws looks equally tasty for the legal community.

However, the ACT bill has some problems and its long-term prospects are doubtful. A rethink may be needed if the ACT wants to persuade the High Court that a same-sex marriage law can operate concurrently with the Commonwealth Marriage Act.


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thebrownstreak69 11:58 am 22 Oct 13

PantsMan said :

What, so now transgender people cannot get married? And the gay people who do only get an second-class Territory marriage?

Sounds like discrimination to me.

This is an interesting point. Maybe the ACT govt should be lobbying the feds for a national solution.

watto23 11:24 am 22 Oct 13

Robertson said :

Well, a good proportion of people understand “marriage” as being a union of man and wife. Some of us may have been sympathetic to legislative changes that, after all, wouldn’t affect us, however the rabid and aggressive reaction towards anybody who questions why “homosexual marriage” is an issue has convinced plenty of us that we have no sympathy the anti-social extremists who are lobbying for this change, for through their vicious attacks on those who disagree with them we see them as the sociopaths that they clearly are.

Marriage isn’t a “right” – never was and never will be.
I don’t know for whose benefit all this is, but it seems perfectly obvious that the greater good would be far better served by addressing the real issues which need attention, such as the failing public education system and the appallingly inefficient healthcare system.[/quote>

There was a time a good proportion of people thought women shouldn’t vote, slavery of black people was ok as well. Society evolves and the people wasting the money are those opposing it. Its not going to affect anyone in any way other than being able to bully their beliefs onto society as a whole.

The way i see, if two gay people get married, nobody is hurt. If its the other way around people are hurt. Just like two people don’t need to be married either to have children, yet many would find this a sin, however it doesn’t affect anyone but the couple.

The money wasting is coming from the opposition to the issue. There is no need for a high court case, other than for political gain on the coalition side. This will eventually happen at federal government level so the money is definately wasted in opposition.

howeph 10:54 am 22 Oct 13

PBO said :

Wow, did anyone else hear the worlds tiniest violin playing the world’s saddest kylie tune over ScienceRules’s lisp riddled guilt trip?

No.

PantsMan 10:27 am 22 Oct 13

What, so now transgender people cannot get married? And the gay people who do only get an second-class Territory marriage?

Sounds like discrimination to me.

Also, will mainstream religions be forced by the Commonwealth Anti-Discrimination Act to perform ceremonies?

PBO 10:13 am 22 Oct 13

ScienceRules said :

voytek3 said :

Who cares? Non issue not worthy of the back page of the chronicle.

Unless you’re gay. Or have loved ones who are gay. Or are a decent human being.

Wow, did anyone else hear the worlds tiniest violin playing the world’s saddest kylie tune over ScienceRules’s lisp riddled guilt trip? How the hell do you type a word with a lispish twist anyway? CTRL-ALT L?

This bill probably would have been happily passed by everyone a long time ago if it wasnt for the Today-Tonight, Flaming, Overly Militant homosexualist’s scaring the public with their “in your face” lifestyle choices and gay-extremist views.

I hope this homosexual terror campaign is dealt with and pushed aside for some worthier socially retarding problem like catching Downs Syndrome from unclean toilet seats or Lefthandedism.

Innovation 7:31 pm 21 Oct 13

Robertson said :

I think it’s sad that the people who should be providing public education, healthcare, roads and water & sewerage are apparently at such a loose end they can devote the time (and our money) to playing these stupid political games with issues that are none of their business.

A competent ACT Government should be able to deal with core issues and still address issues such as these without dropping the ball. If it turns out that the Territory does not have the power, then they should be able to, cheaply, keep applying pressure on the Feds to do something. If the Territory does have the power then they have a responsibility to address the issue for or, in my opinion, less ideally, against….. but I will be among the many who will be very pissed if they’ve spent a lot of money and stuffed the wording.

ScienceRules 7:17 pm 21 Oct 13

Robertson said :

I think it’s sad that the people who should be providing public education, healthcare, roads and water & sewerage are apparently at such a loose end they can devote the time (and our money) to playing these stupid political games with issues that are none of their business.

Maybe they can do more that one thing at a time. And why would it not be any of their business? It’s exactly the sort of thing that government needs to address. You know, basic human rights and all.

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