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21 mum of 2 27 October 2009 148

i am a single mum with a 3 year old special needs child and a 2 year old i was on the housing list for almost 2 years and had been given 3 choices the first 2 were flats with junkies liying on the step so i had to say no i went back onto the list and got given a townhouse in redhill where they told me to keep to myself and not talk to anyone alarm bells went off but by that time i had to take it so my kids had a roof over there heads i have been here for 2 years and need a transfer to get out as there has been stabbings 3 feet from my door and many people knocking on my door at 3 and 4am asking if they can get some crack i had gone to housing a number of times to get out as i do not feel safe here anymore they have pushed me and my kids away everytime and said there is nothing they can do as i have not been hurt i need to get some letters from “high up people” for them to even consider moving me all i am asking is for help so me and my kids can feel safe when we go to bed at night


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colourful sydney racing identity 8:03 am 03 Sep 10

Mulberry said :

this is absolutely disgusting!! And you call yourselves humans!! What makes any of you better then her?!

As outlined at above she is not real. She is made up like the tooth fairy, jesus and Alistair Coe. On that basis we are all better than her because she is the figment of someones imagination.

Mulberry 12:31 am 03 Sep 10

this is absolutely disgusting!! And you call yourselves humans!! What makes any of you better then her?!

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 10:22 am 11 Nov 09

Typhoon said :

The real problem with public housing is people who work full time and get a decent wage, but piss it all up the wall on booze, cigarettes and a $50k car loan and then THEY get public housing. Don’t tell me it doesn’t exist, I work with one of them currently, and have before.
THEY should be ferreted out (not hard if the government really cared) so that people who really do need the housing can have it.
As for drug addicts in public housing, cold turkey works wonders. Cut them off from their supplier. Why should society pay for drug users to have heavily subsidised housing so they can afford their habit, at the expense of people who need the housing through no fault of their own?

Harsh, but very true.

cleo 1:27 am 11 Nov 09

Postalgeek No you were talking double dutch!

Postalgeek 5:52 pm 10 Nov 09

No froth. I read what you said, which was:

Most men are paid higher wages than women

And I said it was a vague generalisation open to multiple interpretations. My opinion hasn’t changed.

cleo 10:08 pm 08 Nov 09

Dvaey Try not to put works in my mouth, you have a hugh imagination!

cleo 10:03 pm 08 Nov 09

Postalgeek an Dvaey

Before you start frothing at the mouth, If you read what I had said, was MOST MEN, my stepgrandfather was all for single mens rights, he appeared on TV some years ago, Jack Mackalin, I think that’s how his surname is spelt.

Typhoon 12:27 am 07 Nov 09

Well, if you don’t like the public housing offered in one area, move.
The real problem with public housing is people who work full time and get a decent wage, but piss it all up the wall on booze, cigarettes and a $50k car loan and then THEY get public housing. Don’t tell me it doesn’t exist, I work with one of them currently, and have before.
THEY should be ferreted out (not hard if the government really cared) so that people who really do need the housing can have it.
As for drug addicts in public housing, cold turkey works wonders. Cut them off from their supplier. Why should society pay for drug users to have heavily subsidised housing so they can afford their habit, at the expense of people who need the housing through no fault of their own?
Forget telling me I don’t know what it’s like to grow up poor etc, I’ve been there and I made the choice to get out of it and improve myself and my situation. It’s hard work, but now I have a great life.
I always find it amusing that the most liberal, bleeding heart people are the ones who’ve never associated with people who need public housing. It’s easy to have all the answers and know how “Poor”people think/need when you’ve never been there or met them personally.
By and large, they are lazy, self centred people who think society owes them a lifestyle, which the taxpayer should subsidise. Those who have lived amongst it, or know those that do, know the real story. Sadly, teh vast majority of public housing tenants ruin it for the few who actually do need the housing.
Complaining does nothing, make a choice and get out of your situation. Public housing is meant to be a short term solution to someone’s problems, it’s not meant to be a house for the rest of your life……put the word on a relative/friend, get yourself somewhere more productive. If your answer is you are staying in Canberra for family, well, what sort of family are they if they are neglecting you like this in your time of need?

Granny 12:46 am 05 Nov 09

dvaey, I am actually heavily involved in supporting an organisation that serves sole parent families headed by a father.

I know that there are problems facing men and I know what they are. Some of them are the same as those faced by single mothers and others are quite different. For instance, I know what it’s like to feed my kids toast and porridge and two-minute noodles also.

However, they do not include people questioning what right they have to have their children in the first place, or the implication that they are sluts or morons. This is a different stigma entirely.

I know a single mother who has just escaped a violent domestic relationship and I can assure you she will get no help from that father nor does she want him anywhere near her children.

dvaey 9:44 am 04 Nov 09

cleo said :

dvaey Most men are paid higher wages than women, so the money doesn’t go that far on a low wage.

That still didnt change the fact that we would often go hungry because we were unable to even afford food, etc. My dad had to sell off posessions such as his car simply to be able to feed us as kids. For the record he was non-drinker/smoker/anything. Infact, during times of low money he would often ensure us kids were fed (even if it was just toast or 2min noodles) and go without food for days at a time. I should point out as well, a big issue with this was the fact the courts and govt (DSS at the time) sided with my mother and my dad had to basically prove everything that would have otherwise been assumed for a single mother.

My point is, men need assistance just as much (if not more than) women. Just because in society, men on average sometimes make more than women, that often leads to opinions such as yours ‘men dont need the help’, or ‘men know where to get the help’. I dare you to even prove that services available for single men with children are even close to the services available for women in the same situation.

Maybe things have changed since our family went through this crap, but theres something seemingly ironic about two females stating adamantly that men can get by, and the community should look after mothers. Compare how many womens refuges there are to mens refuges, for a quick example.

Postalgeek 9:33 am 04 Nov 09

cleo said :

dvaey Most men are paid higher wages than women, so the money doesn’t go that far on a low wage.

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying most men are paid higher wages than someone like Heather Ridout, or that most men are paid higher wages than most women, or that most men are paid higher wages than some women, or that the average wage is higher, which is different to the median wage difference?

There are single fathers out there with low wages living in the same struggle town as single mothers with low wages and it is offensive to dismiss them like that. Advocates do their cause little service when they dismiss the legitimate grievances of ALL groups and claim unassailable martyrdom for one particular group.

cleo 1:50 am 04 Nov 09

I hope the single mum takes note of the POSTIVE advice on here, good luck!

cleo 1:48 am 04 Nov 09

dvaey Most men are paid higher wages than women, so the money doesn’t go that far on a low wage.

Granny 7:42 pm 03 Nov 09

dvaey said :

My father was a single father and raised both myself and my brother after my mother left the family. He worked 10hr days, and neither expected (nor received) any government assistance, even having to pay court costs to defend against having to pay child support which my mum tried to claim from him (even though she left our home).

If you can so loosely throw the word bigot around, why should I not throw the word sexist around, with your comments about ‘especially women’. Maybe the issue is more that single women are more aware of and assisted by government services than men, hence we dont hear so many stories of men seeking assistance, they just knuckle down and do it.

I also was raised by a single father with a job after my mother left our home. So what? If he’d needed to give up work to care for us he would have had to. He didn’t. If he’d needed government support it would have been there for him. And he certainly wouldn’t have copped the kind of crap that single mothers do. And I lived that every day, so I’m not sexist I’m a realist. Leave single mothers alone. It’s hard enough for them already, let alone one who is also a carer. Who do you think holds her when she cries at night?

weeziepops 12:43 pm 03 Nov 09

Just answering a question, Cletus.

dare2dream 2:38 am 03 Nov 09

There arent enough jobs for everyone and there arent enough houses for everyone. A lot of people who end up without either have worked hard for most of their lives and become ill or had an accident or a large dose of bad luck…there but for the grace of God go I…

dvaey 2:34 am 03 Nov 09

Granny said :

You are absolutely a bigot if you don’t realise that many people, especially women are forced to quit their jobs to become carers for their children, spouses, siblings and parents with disabilities – both genetic and acquired.

My father was a single father and raised both myself and my brother after my mother left the family. He worked 10hr days, and neither expected (nor received) any government assistance, even having to pay court costs to defend against having to pay child support which my mum tried to claim from him (even though she left our home).

If you can so loosely throw the word bigot around, why should I not throw the word sexist around, with your comments about ‘especially women’. Maybe the issue is more that single women are more aware of and assisted by government services than men, hence we dont hear so many stories of men seeking assistance, they just knuckle down and do it.

Cletus 2 2:15 am 03 Nov 09

weeziepops said :

Six people,generally every second weekend over the past year, Granny.

Then you must be well qualified to adjudicate on who has and has not made the correct “life choices” in the past so as to qualify for your handouts.

Granny 9:30 pm 02 Nov 09

I’m glad to hear it, weeziepops. That is unusual.

But seriously, carers often can’t work for a reason. Don’t be so quick to judge this poor girl. Behind most single mothers is a cowardly father – especially where disability is concerned. Yet it is the woman who is judged by society. I’m so over that.

weeziepops 6:26 pm 02 Nov 09

Six people,generally every second weekend over the past year, Granny.

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