ActewAGL comes with the guilts on Green Power

johnboy 14 March 2007 72

The Canberra Times reports that ActewAGL’s John Mackay has noticed that many intelligent people don’t see a need to pay more for green power (when the solution to greenhouse emissions is a system that charges more for high carbon power). Having failed with reason he resorts to emotion to try and get the conscientious to pay through the nose while the rest party on (rather similar to his water restriction regime).

“I’m a bit disappointed because I think Canberrans are very, very environmentally conscious, reasonably affluent and [despite] the fact that it costs a little bit more, I would have thought more of them would have taken it up.

“For a relatively modest amount of money you can make a big difference to greenhouse gases.”

Bugger all difference more like.

And to think, just 11 days ago they were telling us just how thrilled they were with the take up.

We’d also love to know if the statistic showing Canberra being the highest per capita greenhouse emitter accounts for having to heat our domiciles through winter.

UPDATED: Ari sent in the following as a story on the same subject:

ActewAGL boss John Mackay has been snivelling in today’s Crimes that Canberrans in general aren’t such idiots that they’ll pay more than they have to for a service.

Apparently only a “paltry” 7 per cent of households have chosen to pay more for exactly the same electricity as everyone else (via the GreenChoice rort).

“I’m a bit disappointed because I think Canberrans are very, very environmentally conscious, reasonably affluent and [despite] the fact that it costs a little bit more, I would have thought more of them would have taken it up.”

What is of concern, however, is that the rest of the country has a take-up rate of less than 1.5 per cent, proving that Canberra has 5.5 per cent more feel-good fools than the rest of Australia. To anyone living in the Inner North, this comes as no surprise.

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72 Responses to ActewAGL comes with the guilts on Green Power
Pandy Pandy 11:27 pm 15 Mar 07

you are making sense! NOT

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 9:35 pm 15 Mar 07

You’d think that the logical approach would be to have ‘green’ electricity cheaper than the garden variety and to have the people who were prepared to pay more for unsustainable power generation fundimng research into more efficient ways to run our light bulbs.

louise louise 5:04 pm 15 Mar 07

Ah yes, but it’s so much more believable now than in the more naive 70’s.

Maelinar Maelinar 4:10 pm 15 Mar 07

Soylent Green people, Soylent Green.

In order to have electricity, the researcher paid his dues in bicycle time when he wasn’t too busy thinking about assisted suicide…

Moral of the story is, it’s already been thought of so long ago…

VYBerlinaV8 now_with_added grunt VYBerlinaV8 now_with_added grunt 4:06 pm 15 Mar 07

What we need is a huge fleet of exercise bikes with generators attached to them. We then put a tax on being a fat bitch or fat bastard. You can claim tax credits for hours spent on the bike. Not only do we get electricity, but we improve the health and wellbeing of the entire population. And we don’t have to look at fat people any more.

Thumper Thumper 1:42 pm 15 Mar 07

Special Patrol Group.

Now there was a big hamster.

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 1:37 pm 15 Mar 07

I am considering a trip to Peru next year and plan on indulging in the local delicacy of Guinea Pig. If the government wants to fund my trip in the name of scientific research into the potential application of small furry animnals in solving our energy issues, I will gladly accept.

louise louise 1:27 pm 15 Mar 07

I like the idea of putting the leaders on a treadmill. We could make their lighting/heating/cooling dependent on it.

it’s a bit like the idea of rigging the tele up to a bicycle generator – you get to watch the box and exercise at the same time.

mutley mutley 1:10 pm 15 Mar 07

But surely hamsters aren’t big enough. Perhaps we can breed genetically modified, super-fit, oversized hamsters?

Or we could put our illustrious leaders on a treadmill and get them actually doing some good for a change.

Hamsters sound good, though, and the old, frail ones can be used to supplement lamb and beef sales at the butchers.

Like the Guinea pigs of south America.

louise louise 12:51 pm 15 Mar 07

Hamsters sound good, though, and the old, frail ones can be used to supplement lamb and beef sales at the butchers.

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 12:51 pm 15 Mar 07

Toad, the best way to get rid of the C is through trees, they take in the CO2 and release O2. Plant trees, lots of em, and preferably ones we can eat.

louise louise 12:49 pm 15 Mar 07

Only trouble with hydro is that you need water.

barking toad barking toad 12:23 pm 15 Mar 07

Just burn the C

Ari Ari 12:09 pm 15 Mar 07

Well, CO2 is what you get when you burn something in O2 – it releases energy as heat which we can then use to generate electricity etc.

To convert it back you basically need to put in the same amount of energy.

Maelinar Maelinar 12:03 pm 15 Mar 07

Why can’t we just burn CO2 and turn it into O2 ?

Or is that just silly ?

Thumper Thumper 10:54 am 15 Mar 07

The problem with using hamsters in a wheel is that you have to feed them heaps of lentils and thus they fart a lot leading to depletion of the ozone layer…

johnboy johnboy 10:48 am 15 Mar 07

Trouble with tidal is that all the power would arrive down the east coast at roughly the same time. And storing electricity remains problematic.

But as part of a huge bundle of systems providing power it would fit in just fine.

It all comes back to one basic thing: Until there is a cost put on emitting CO2 all other power is uneconomical compared to burning fossil fuels.

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 10:19 am 15 Mar 07

I was reading a report recently on a trail system at Port Kembla that uses wave power to generate electricity. The Generator sits offshore and the tidal movement drives a turbine generating enough power to run 500 homes. It is a small trial system that the company plans to expand if there is interest. The generator also has a desalinator built in, some of the power generated drives the desalinatorproducing a few megalitres of water a day. The report claimed the Generator only cost $6 million to produce and weighing under 10 ton.

At the risk of sounding like a pinko, tree hugging lefty, this sounds like a better option than nuclear power or even coal fired power. It’s cheap, easily produced and as long as the tide keeps turning (which I am told has been known to occur up as often as twice a day) we have power and water.

Thumper Thumper 10:15 am 15 Mar 07


Well put Caf…

gurunik gurunik 10:10 am 15 Mar 07

what about large scale hamster wheels?

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